ryukins

[Dave Leason]

anyone have any experience with these? I have had one fo about 6 months, but
it always seems to get quite floaty, none of the others fish have ever been
like this.

thanks in advance

[marcos]

"Dave Leason" > wrote in message >...
> anyone have any experience with these? I have had one fo about 6 months, but
> it always seems to get quite floaty, none of the others fish have ever been
> like this.
>
> thanks in advance

Hi
Yes, ryukins seem to always have swimbladder disorders. Its bcoz of
their really deformed shape n hence the swimbladder is also a weird
shape. I had a ryukin n if it had one piece of GF flake - then it goes
floatin upside down! I had to constantly feed it peas due 2this. I
gave it back to the shop as I got fed up w/ its upside down floating
business. There's really nothing u can do about it 2b honest. Thats d
way they r - they're genetically like that. some other goldfish also
have that kinda problem, esp. deep-bodied ones like lionheads n
ranchus.
john

[Dave Leason]

Thanks for that, I thought it was my fault, although all other fish are ok
and have been for years, but im constantly having to isolate 'kipper' due to
his floating.
then after a day or 2 he ok for another few weeks!

My LFS are stupid, I have 6 fish, bought from them as orandas, turns out
only one of them is an oranda!
took me a few months to work that out though!

as i said though, Ive had them nearly 2 years now and all are prefectly
healthy just the ryukin who gets a bit 'floaty' every month or so!
I'll just keep doing what im doing then as it seems to work .

Thanks
Dave

"marcos" > wrote in message
om...
> "Dave Leason" > wrote in message
>...
> > anyone have any experience with these? I have had one fo about 6 months,
but
> > it always seems to get quite floaty, none of the others fish have ever
been
> > like this.
> >
> > thanks in advance
>
> Hi
> Yes, ryukins seem to always have swimbladder disorders. Its bcoz of
> their really deformed shape n hence the swimbladder is also a weird
> shape. I had a ryukin n if it had one piece of GF flake - then it goes
> floatin upside down! I had to constantly feed it peas due 2this. I
> gave it back to the shop as I got fed up w/ its upside down floating
> business. There's really nothing u can do about it 2b honest. Thats d
> way they r - they're genetically like that. some other goldfish also
> have that kinda problem, esp. deep-bodied ones like lionheads n
> ranchus.
> john

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be very very careful about feeding the ryukin. very small amounts of food, soaked
and soft and sinking. they are very touchy about being fed too much at once. most
people over feed their GF. feed high protein, high quality food but tiny amounts at
a time. Ingrid

"Dave Leason" > wrote:

>anyone have any experience with these? I have had one fo about 6 months, but
>it always seems to get quite floaty, none of the others fish have ever been
>like this.
>
>thanks in advance
>



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[Günther Ritter]

> schrieb

Hi Ingrid

> be very very careful about feeding the ryukin. very small amounts of
food, soaked
> and soft and sinking. they are very touchy about being fed too much at
once. most
> people over feed their GF.

Today I have 20 ryukin in my pond
They eat the whole day how much they can and are looking like footballs.
Food from pond like algue, high quality extrudate (55% protein, 16% fat)
0,5% of weight per day and a little bit swelled granulate (37% protein, 6%
fat)
No fish is floating. In the moment temperature is 18 Celsius in the pond.

8 in my tank ~ 3 years old
~ 60 selected young ryukin in tank ~ 120 days old
They also eat high quality extrudate with 55% protein, 16% fat, fresh
daphnia, often lemna minor waterplants!, ...
No fish is floating, temperature in the moment is 21 Celsius

I think the most problem of floating is no sinking food, no swelled foot,
constipation and after that bacteria as result of constipation.
Only 3 times the last 2 years one of mine ryukin had floating problems.
All 3 fishes swim normal after eating food with synthetic antibiotic
"Nifurpirinol" in it like
"SERA Bakto TABS" or "SERA BAKTOPUR DIRECT" or "FURANOL from JBL"

Regards
Günther
http://www.shubunkin.de

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yes, absolutely perfect for ryukin. the softballs are raised in green ponds. lots
of itty bitty critters noshing on the green stuff. perfect food.
Ingrid

>Today I have 20 ryukin in my pond
>They eat the whole day how much they can and are looking like footballs.
>Food from pond like algue, high quality extrudate (55% protein, 16% fat)
>0,5% of weight per day and a little bit swelled granulate (37% protein, 6%
>fat)
>No fish is floating. In the moment temperature is 18 Celsius in the pond.
>
>8 in my tank ~ 3 years old
>~ 60 selected young ryukin in tank ~ 120 days old
>They also eat high quality extrudate with 55% protein, 16% fat, fresh
>daphnia, often lemna minor waterplants!, ...
>No fish is floating, temperature in the moment is 21 Celsius
>



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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Dave Leason]

Thank you all for your help, I am now looking for some good quality food
that is also suitable for the other fish in the tank.
But so far Ive had no more floatyness from my little ryukin!

Dave

> wrote in message
...
> yes, absolutely perfect for ryukin. the softballs are raised in green
ponds. lots
> of itty bitty critters noshing on the green stuff. perfect food.
> Ingrid
>
> >Today I have 20 ryukin in my pond
> >They eat the whole day how much they can and are looking like footballs.
> >Food from pond like algue, high quality extrudate (55% protein, 16% fat)
> >0,5% of weight per day and a little bit swelled granulate (37% protein,
6%
> >fat)
> >No fish is floating. In the moment temperature is 18 Celsius in the pond.
> >
> >8 in my tank ~ 3 years old
> >~ 60 selected young ryukin in tank ~ 120 days old
> >They also eat high quality extrudate with 55% protein, 16% fat, fresh
> >daphnia, often lemna minor waterplants!, ...
> >No fish is floating, temperature in the moment is 21 Celsius
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Dave Leason wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your help, I am now looking for some good quality food
> that is also suitable for the other fish in the tank.
> But so far Ive had no more floatyness from my little ryukin!
>
> Dave

tried Progold??

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http://dandyorandas.com/
Ken has aquadine.
Ingrid

"Dave Leason" > wrote:
>Thank you all for your help, I am now looking for some good quality food
>that is also suitable for the other fish in the tank.
>But so far Ive had no more floatyness from my little ryukin!
>
>Dave


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[Tom L. La Bron]

Hey Dave,

Why go to Dandy Oranda when you can go to the source,
Aquadine, and get the way that you want. You can even
have them pre-mix it for you if you want, it certainly
is not going to cost any more, and it may even cost
less depending on where you live. If you want to get
exactly what Dandy Oranda gets drop me a line and I
will tell you the percentages of the mix that they get.

Aquadine is an excellent food, but there again it is a
little pricey. Aquadine though has worked its way up
to the higher protein levels to you may have trouble if
you have fish that are prone to floating.

You can also get Sho-Gold from several places, like
GoldfishConnection.com, which is also the place to
purchase Pro-Gold, which is a different food than the
Sho-Gold. On the per pound basis both Sho-Gold and
Pro-Gold are a cheaper to buy per ounce than buying
Aquadine from Dandy Oranda.

Personally, I grown out Goldfish on Sho-Gold over a two
month period where 3/4 inch fish grew to 4 and 5 inchs,
so it will give great results.

HBH also makes a good crumble foods that works great as
does OSI and Azoo.

So you have a number of choices.

HTH

Tom L.L.
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wrote:
> http://dandyorandas.com/
> Ken has aquadine.
> Ingrid
>
> "Dave Leason" > wrote:
>
>>Thank you all for your help, I am now looking for some good quality food
>>that is also suitable for the other fish in the tank.
>>But so far Ive had no more floatyness from my little ryukin!
>>
>>Dave

[Dave Leason]

Are these available in the UK?

"Tom L. La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Dave,
>
> Why go to Dandy Oranda when you can go to the source,
> Aquadine, and get the way that you want. You can even
> have them pre-mix it for you if you want, it certainly
> is not going to cost any more, and it may even cost
> less depending on where you live. If you want to get
> exactly what Dandy Oranda gets drop me a line and I
> will tell you the percentages of the mix that they get.
>
> Aquadine is an excellent food, but there again it is a
> little pricey. Aquadine though has worked its way up
> to the higher protein levels to you may have trouble if
> you have fish that are prone to floating.
>
> You can also get Sho-Gold from several places, like
> GoldfishConnection.com, which is also the place to
> purchase Pro-Gold, which is a different food than the
> Sho-Gold. On the per pound basis both Sho-Gold and
> Pro-Gold are a cheaper to buy per ounce than buying
> Aquadine from Dandy Oranda.
>
> Personally, I grown out Goldfish on Sho-Gold over a two
> month period where 3/4 inch fish grew to 4 and 5 inchs,
> so it will give great results.
>
> HBH also makes a good crumble foods that works great as
> does OSI and Azoo.
>
> So you have a number of choices.
>
> HTH
>
> Tom L.L.
> ---------------------------------------
> wrote:
> > http://dandyorandas.com/
> > Ken has aquadine.
> > Ingrid
> >
> > "Dave Leason" > wrote:
> >
> >>Thank you all for your help, I am now looking for some good quality food
> >>that is also suitable for the other fish in the tank.
> >>But so far Ive had no more floatyness from my little ryukin!
> >>
> >>Dave