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Trina
February 3rd 04, 04:04 AM
Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
all 3...

http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm

Trina :)
Yukon, Canada
44gal/tall/pent/fresh
10gal/planted/fresh

Claire
February 3rd 04, 10:58 AM
It's people like this that almost make me think that animal aid have a point
(a very badly made point, but a point none the less)

I think he's all three (more toward the ignorant and stupid though), you
wouldn't replace an animal with exactly the same one and not expect it to be
consumed the same as the first.

"Trina" > wrote in message
...
> Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> all 3...
>
> http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
>
> Trina :)
> Yukon, Canada
> 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> 10gal/planted/fresh

Lookn4nemo
February 4th 04, 08:02 AM
"Trina" > wrote in message
...
> Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> all 3...
>
> http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
>
> Trina :)
> Yukon, Canada
> 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> 10gal/planted/fresh

It kinda sounds like his LFS rep is the idiot in this case. I had a similar
problem but was smart enough to take my questions to the groups. I too
tried to put Oscars and Cichlids in the same tank. The smaller cichlids
tried to make a meal of the slightly larger Oscars. My LFS said they would
be fine together because an Oscar is a Cichlid. Lucky for my Oscars I had a
spare 20 gallon tank already set up (had just moved piranhas from it to a
55). So now my son has the Cichlids in his room and the Oscars have since
been moved to a 75 gallon tank. In a couple months they will graduate to
the new 125 I am buying and the Piranhas will get the 75. If I'd have taken
the advice of my LFS I'd probably have just two Piranhas left. But thanks
to the groups I have two Piranhas, three Oscars and 10 African Cichlids.

blove
February 4th 04, 05:24 PM
its not all the lfs store guys fault, the guy should have done research
before buying the fish. and in this one case this guy wanted to buy a betta
to put in with his oscars, i told him the betta is only aggressive to his
own kind and would be brutily killed by the oscars, the guy bought the betta
anyways. you can lead a person to knowledge but you cant make the moron
think.

"Lookn4nemo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Trina" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> > all 3...
> >
> > http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
> >
> > Trina :)
> > Yukon, Canada
> > 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> > 10gal/planted/fresh
>
> It kinda sounds like his LFS rep is the idiot in this case. I had a
similar
> problem but was smart enough to take my questions to the groups. I too
> tried to put Oscars and Cichlids in the same tank. The smaller cichlids
> tried to make a meal of the slightly larger Oscars. My LFS said they
would
> be fine together because an Oscar is a Cichlid. Lucky for my Oscars I had
a
> spare 20 gallon tank already set up (had just moved piranhas from it to a
> 55). So now my son has the Cichlids in his room and the Oscars have since
> been moved to a 75 gallon tank. In a couple months they will graduate to
> the new 125 I am buying and the Piranhas will get the 75. If I'd have
taken
> the advice of my LFS I'd probably have just two Piranhas left. But thanks
> to the groups I have two Piranhas, three Oscars and 10 African Cichlids.
>
>

Lookn4nemo
February 4th 04, 08:08 PM
Ok you win. I missed the part about the Betta. I have been doing research
for about a year and have collected a small library of marine books but I
have never seen a book or post that tells me that I can't keep Oscars (a
Cichlid) with African Cichlids so I went on what my LFS told me. I won't
make that mistake again. BTW I like you comment at the end of your post. I
think I'll see if I can't find a situation in which to use it today... :-)


"blove" > wrote in message
...
> its not all the lfs store guys fault, the guy should have done research
> before buying the fish. and in this one case this guy wanted to buy a
betta
> to put in with his oscars, i told him the betta is only aggressive to his
> own kind and would be brutily killed by the oscars, the guy bought the
betta
> anyways. you can lead a person to knowledge but you cant make the moron
> think.
>
> "Lookn4nemo" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Trina" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> > > all 3...
> > >
> > > http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
> > >
> > > Trina :)
> > > Yukon, Canada
> > > 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> > > 10gal/planted/fresh
> >
> > It kinda sounds like his LFS rep is the idiot in this case. I had a
> similar
> > problem but was smart enough to take my questions to the groups. I too
> > tried to put Oscars and Cichlids in the same tank. The smaller cichlids
> > tried to make a meal of the slightly larger Oscars. My LFS said they
> would
> > be fine together because an Oscar is a Cichlid. Lucky for my Oscars I
had
> a
> > spare 20 gallon tank already set up (had just moved piranhas from it to
a
> > 55). So now my son has the Cichlids in his room and the Oscars have
since
> > been moved to a 75 gallon tank. In a couple months they will graduate
to
> > the new 125 I am buying and the Piranhas will get the 75. If I'd have
> taken
> > the advice of my LFS I'd probably have just two Piranhas left. But
thanks
> > to the groups I have two Piranhas, three Oscars and 10 African Cichlids.
> >
> >
>
>

T
February 5th 04, 07:35 AM
You can keep the Oscars together with the African cousins.. It can be
done.. Expect losses though.. Actually at a new Vet's office today, he had
parrots, Africans and a Dempshy together.. Odd, yes.. Would I do or suggest
doing this no.. The Dempsy is going to snack sooner or later on his African
cousins or the "high" breed parrots will do the same.. I have succesfully
kept, Oscars, Koi, Goldfish and pl*co's in the same tank.. A lot of
maintenence yes, but they co habitated fairly decently.. Piranha's should
really be kept to themselves.. Eventually though. there is only going to be
one left, one mean set of Tatra's they are. The guy was smart enough to
read, but not smart enough to learn from expierance. The big tet's have a
tendecy to attack anything they feel threatened by, that includes most fish
larger than them.. Who knows about the LFS guy.. Ah well some people never
get it..

Tim...

"Lookn4nemo" > wrote in message
...
> Ok you win. I missed the part about the Betta. I have been doing
research
> for about a year and have collected a small library of marine books but I
> have never seen a book or post that tells me that I can't keep Oscars (a
> Cichlid) with African Cichlids so I went on what my LFS told me. I won't
> make that mistake again. BTW I like you comment at the end of your post.
I
> think I'll see if I can't find a situation in which to use it today...
:-)
>
>
> "blove" > wrote in message
> ...
> > its not all the lfs store guys fault, the guy should have done research
> > before buying the fish. and in this one case this guy wanted to buy a
> betta
> > to put in with his oscars, i told him the betta is only aggressive to
his
> > own kind and would be brutily killed by the oscars, the guy bought the
> betta
> > anyways. you can lead a person to knowledge but you cant make the moron
> > think.
> >
> > "Lookn4nemo" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Trina" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel
or
> > > > all 3...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
> > > >
> > > > Trina :)
> > > > Yukon, Canada
> > > > 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> > > > 10gal/planted/fresh
> > >
> > > It kinda sounds like his LFS rep is the idiot in this case. I had a
> > similar
> > > problem but was smart enough to take my questions to the groups. I
too
> > > tried to put Oscars and Cichlids in the same tank. The smaller
cichlids
> > > tried to make a meal of the slightly larger Oscars. My LFS said they
> > would
> > > be fine together because an Oscar is a Cichlid. Lucky for my Oscars I
> had
> > a
> > > spare 20 gallon tank already set up (had just moved piranhas from it
to
> a
> > > 55). So now my son has the Cichlids in his room and the Oscars have
> since
> > > been moved to a 75 gallon tank. In a couple months they will graduate
> to
> > > the new 125 I am buying and the Piranhas will get the 75. If I'd have
> > taken
> > > the advice of my LFS I'd probably have just two Piranhas left. But
> thanks
> > > to the groups I have two Piranhas, three Oscars and 10 African
Cichlids.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

blove
February 5th 04, 04:20 PM
its not good to keep africans with central americans, one reason being
different water requirements, africans need higher ph like 8.0 and africans
dont get as big. piranha are flighty nervous fish who need a huge tank and
a huge group of themselves to be comfortable.


"Trina" > wrote in message
...
> Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> all 3...
>
> http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
>
> Trina :)
> Yukon, Canada
> 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> 10gal/planted/fresh

Geezer From Freezer
February 9th 04, 11:42 AM
Trina wrote:
>
> Trying to figure out whether this person is ignorant, stupid, cruel or
> all 3...
>
> http://www.powerlabs.org/fish.htm
>
> Trina :)
> Yukon, Canada
> 44gal/tall/pent/fresh
> 10gal/planted/fresh

a complete and utter moron!