HELP?

[Bette E]

I know that i'm more of a lurker here, than a regular poster, but you
good folks have helped me out many times--
This is a biggie !
Our pond began losing water this week at about two inches daily. ( pond
is 20'X8'X 28 inches deep.)
The pond has a hole in the poly-liner, we found it when we removed a
large stone that had been put in to hold our huge Iris plant against the
side of the pond. With the clear water, the stone was easy to spot. The
gal who made our veggie filter two months ago, had placed it there and
forgotten it, when she finished.

I frantically called her and she said NOT to drain it, she would come
and put a (Wet Patch) on it. I've never heard of a wet patch for a fish
pond !

She said that she has done it for other ponds, using (a swimming pool
patch compound) and that considering the smallness of the area to be
patched, the substance used, wouldn't harm my fish.

I'm scared to take this chance without checking with you all first. A
100 gallon stock tank is $136.00. I want a good fix, not a quick fix--
my fish are too precious to me.
Bette in Central OH

[Bette E]

(I meant to say the pond liner is the same liner used for roofing
applications) not poly. It is flexible like rubber and guaranteed for 20
years- "If you don't put a hole in it"

[Benign Vanilla]

"Bette E" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> I frantically called her and she said NOT to drain it, she would come
> and put a (Wet Patch) on it. I've never heard of a wet patch for a fish
> pond !

<snip>

Where is the hole in relation to the pond's water level? If it's not too far
down, you can let the water drain to the leak, patch it and then refill. I
think I agree with her. I would not drain it.

BV.

[Bette E]

If only the hole were in the side-- but
the hole is in the bottom of the liner.
I've never heard of a "Wet Patch" I worry that it will be a temporary
fix, I'd hate to have to do a repair job in the late Fall, let alone
have a leak return in the Winter and find my fish all dead.
Bette

[Bette E]

<snip>
Where is the hole in relation to the pond's water level? If it's not too
far down, you can let the water drain to the leak, patch it and then
refill. I think I agree with her. I would not drain it.
BV.
---------------

The hole is in the bottom of the liner-- it's a one inch long slit.

The gal wants to put a wet patch on it w/o draining, using a cement
designed for swimmng pools. She said it has worked just fine for her
friends, w/o harming the fish.

I was hoping someone could advise me, especially if they have ever done
a repair in this way.
Thank you for any input.
Bette

[Benign Vanilla]

"Bette E" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> The hole is in the bottom of the liner-- it's a one inch long slit.
<snip>

What I would do...

1. Find a temporary solution. Put a piece of liner down over the hole, with
a heavy rock or plant on it. This won't stop the flow, but it may slow it
enough.
2. Find a temp solution for housing the fish, hospital tank, etc. Be sure to
provide proper filtration, oxygenation, screen over top to prevent jumping,
etc.
3. When pond person comes to patch pond, move fish to hospital tank.
4. After patch is in place, do some a partial water changes 30-50%.
5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in first.

BV.

[San Diego Joe]

"Benign Vanilla" wrote:

> 5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in first.

Sure, fine. Go ahead and give them a complex for the rest of their lives.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[RichToyBox]

I agree with BV about the protection of the fish. As for the temporary
patch, my BIL had a tree branch fall and puncture his liner. He was losing
water fast. He placed a concrete paver over it and if it is leaking it is
very slow. He hasn't patched it and it has been about 2 years.
--
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"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bette E" > wrote in message
> ...
> <snip>
> > The hole is in the bottom of the liner-- it's a one inch long slit.
> <snip>
>
> What I would do...
>
> 1. Find a temporary solution. Put a piece of liner down over the hole,
with
> a heavy rock or plant on it. This won't stop the flow, but it may slow it
> enough.
> 2. Find a temp solution for housing the fish, hospital tank, etc. Be sure
to
> provide proper filtration, oxygenation, screen over top to prevent
jumping,
> etc.
> 3. When pond person comes to patch pond, move fish to hospital tank.
> 4. After patch is in place, do some a partial water changes 30-50%.
> 5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in first.
>
> BV.
>
>

[Bette E]

<snip>
The hole is in the bottom of the liner-- it's a one inch long slit.
<snip>

What I would do...
1. Find a temporary solution. Put a piece of liner down over the hole,
with a heavy rock or plant on it. This won't stop the flow, but it may
slow it enough.
2. Find a temp solution for housing the fish, hospital tank, etc. Be
sure to provide proper filtration, oxygenation, screen over top to
prevent jumping, etc.
3. When pond person comes to patch pond, move fish to hospital tank.
4. After patch is in place, do some a partial water changes 30-50%.
5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in
first.
BV. <snip>
----------------
Thank you so much for your help, I'll post the outcome.
Bette

[Benign Vanilla]

"San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
...
> "Benign Vanilla" wrote:
>
> > 5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in
first.
>
> Sure, fine. Go ahead and give them a complex for the rest of their lives.
<snip>

Nah. Take them out individually and whisper in their ear, "You get go first
because you are my favorite." The other fish won't be able to hear you.
Geez, you'd think you ponders would be more knowledgeable.

BV.

[San Diego Joe]

"Benign Vanilla" wrote:

>
> "San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Benign Vanilla" wrote:
>>
>>> 5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in
> first.
>>
>> Sure, fine. Go ahead and give them a complex for the rest of their lives.
> <snip>
>
> Nah. Take them out individually and whisper in their ear, "You get go first
> because you are my favorite." The other fish won't be able to hear you.
> Geez, you'd think you ponders would be more knowledgeable.
>
> BV.
>
>
Yeah, then, if they live, they spend the rest of their lives telling the
other fish they are special. Recipe for disaster. I see years of fishy
shrink visits and Prozac poured into the water.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[Crashj]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:45:34 -0700, San Diego Joe >
wrote:

>"Benign Vanilla" wrote:
>
>>
>> "San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Benign Vanilla" wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5. Toss a few fish in at a time. The ones you like the least go in
>> first.
>>>
>>> Sure, fine. Go ahead and give them a complex for the rest of their lives.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Nah. Take them out individually and whisper in their ear, "You get go first
>> because you are my favorite."
<>
>>
>Yeah, then, if they live, they spend the rest of their lives telling the
>other fish they are special.
<>
Maybe you will just end up with the Smothers Koi Brothers.
--
Crashj "Ponder always liked you best" Johnson
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Crashj