IRONITE??

[W. Dale]

Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale

[Nedra]

Hi Dale,

As I said in previous I know from nothing about WH, But the folks here have
mentioned
using Potash. I bought a bag but just haven't needed it. Good Thing, cause
I don't know
how much you use for your WH... sorry.

Nedra

"W. Dale" > wrote in message
...
> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>
> Thanks for your comments
>
> W. Dale
>

[~ Windsong ~]

"W. Dale" > wrote in message
...
> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>
> Thanks for your comments
>
> W. Dale
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I've been using Ironite in my pond plant's pots and in the garden for years.
No deformed toads, newts, frogs or fish yet.
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[Jim and Phyllis Hurley]

I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.

Jim

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"W. Dale" > wrote in message
...
> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>
> Thanks for your comments
>
> W. Dale
>

[W Dale]

Thanks Jim,
I look forward to reading what they might have to say.
Happy Friday and have a great weekend! We will be having rain in snow
(snow in the higher elevations) this weekend.
W. Dale

Jim and Phyllis Hurley wrote:

>I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
>in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
>rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
>form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
>with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
>locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
>water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.
>
>Jim
>
>
>

[G-Hoch]

"W. Dale" > wrote in message >...
> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>
> Thanks for your comments
>
> W. Dale

Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary

[W Dale]

Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
Back. Interesting!
So what would you use to green up your WH?

G-Hoch wrote:

>"W. Dale" > wrote in message >...
>
>
>>Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
>>Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
>>moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
>>very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
>>And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>>
>>Thanks for your comments
>>
>>W. Dale
>>
>>
>
>Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
>reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
>Organic Guru's website:
>http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
>info on that site by doing a search.
>
>Gary
>
>

[San Diego Joe]

"W Dale" wrote:

> Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
> Back. Interesting!
> So what would you use to green up your WH?
>
> G-Hoch wrote:
>>
>> "W. Dale" > > wrote in
>> message >
>> > ...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
>>> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
>>> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
>>> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
>>> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments
>>>
>>> W. Dale
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
>> reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
>> Organic Guru's website:
>> http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
>> info on that site by doing a search.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>
High potash value in fertilizer will work just as well. I use sulfate of
potash (0-0-50). I forget the quantity offhand, but someone on the list will
remind me.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[Jim and Phyllis Hurley]

As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
grabbing the potash for growth.

Jim

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"San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
...
> "W Dale" wrote:
>
> > Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
> > Back. Interesting!
> > So what would you use to green up your WH?
> >
> > G-Hoch wrote:
> >>
> >> "W. Dale" > > wrote
in
> >> message >
> >> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
> >>> Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used
in
> >>> moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
> >>> very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
> >>> And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your comments
> >>>
> >>> W. Dale
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
> >> reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
> >> Organic Guru's website:
> >> http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
> >> info on that site by doing a search.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >
> High potash value in fertilizer will work just as well. I use sulfate of
> potash (0-0-50). I forget the quantity offhand, but someone on the list
will
> remind me.
>
>
> San Diego Joe
> 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
> Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
>
>
>
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[W Dale]

Ok. That sounds reasonable. I have used pot ash before with no
noticeable effect. Look like I may have not been using enough at once.
So the Ironite is really not considered 'all that' when it comes to
greening up and feeding your WH?
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks!
Have great weekend!
W. Dale

Jim and Phyllis Hurley wrote:

>As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
>growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
>grabbing the potash for growth.
>
>Jim
>
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
.. .
> As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
> growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
> grabbing the potash for growth.
<snip>

I use 1 FAT tablespoon per thousand gallons, every few weeks. I have heard,
and found that overdosing is difficult or impossible, so my measurements are
done by hand.

BV.

[HA HA Budys Here]

>From: "Benign Vanilla"

>
>
>"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
.. .
>> As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
>> growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
>> grabbing the potash for growth.
><snip>
>
>I use 1 FAT tablespoon per thousand gallons, every few weeks. I have heard,
>and found that overdosing is difficult or impossible, so my measurements are
>done by hand.
>
>BV.


If you knew where Ironite came from, and what else it contains you would NEVER
add it to your pond. Or your soil.

http://www.envirolaw.org/poison.html

San Francisco, CA – A lawsuit filed today by the Environmental Law Foundation
charges a fertilizer manufacturer, Ironite Products Company, with selling
California consumers a toxic-laden home fertilizer product containing high
levels of arsenic and lead. The lawsuit also claims the company is deceiving
consumers through a false advertising campaign that promotes its Ironite
fertilizer as safe for the environment and human health.



The allegations of the complaint are as follows: The Arizona-based Ironite
Products Company's signature product, "Ironite," is made from mine tailings
from a proposed Superfund site in Humboldt, Arizona. Ironite contains high
levels of lead and arsenic – heavy metals that are known to cause cancer and
reproductive harm. The arsenic and lead levels in Ironite exceed California
Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) regulations, and labels on Ironite
omit information about the contents of heavy metals as required by California
law. Ironite is promoted by its manufacturer as "environmentally safe" and
recommended for use on vegetables, flowers, lawns, potted plants, shrubs and
trees.



"When it comes to fertilizers, what you see is not necessarily what you get.
Ironite Products Company is passing mining waste along to consumers as
fertilizer that is environmentally friendly for you and your garden," said
James Wheaton, President of Environmental Law Foundation (ELF).

[Benign Vanilla]

"HA HA Budys Here" > wrote in message
...
> >From: "Benign Vanilla"
>
> >
> >
> >"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
> >> growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
> >> grabbing the potash for growth.
> ><snip>
> >
> >I use 1 FAT tablespoon per thousand gallons, every few weeks. I have
heard,
> >and found that overdosing is difficult or impossible, so my measurements
are
> >done by hand.
> >
> >BV.
>
>
> If you knew where Ironite came from, and what else it contains you would
NEVER
> add it to your pond. Or your soil.

I was speaking of potash.

BV.