fish inflating like a balloon

[Lior T]

Hi,

I've been out for a couple of days, i've fed the fish before i left and
right after i came home.

about 3 hours after i came back i've noticed one of the fish (small red
one, something like a neon but red) had inflated like a balloon, u can
make out its head and tail sticking out of a totaly round body, twice
its normal size.

what can this be ? pregnant ? in two days ? sickness ? so far its the
only one that looks like this.

thanks
LT

[Sue]

Sounds like dropsy - http://www.fishjunkies.com/Diseases/dropsy.php


"Lior T" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I've been out for a couple of days, i've fed the fish before i left and
> right after i came home.
>
> about 3 hours after i came back i've noticed one of the fish (small red
> one, something like a neon but red) had inflated like a balloon, u can
> make out its head and tail sticking out of a totaly round body, twice
> its normal size.
>
> what can this be ? pregnant ? in two days ? sickness ? so far its the
> only one that looks like this.
>
> thanks
> LT

[Lior T]

Thanks,

yeh, that seems to be it - i've isolated the fish but its scales are
sticking out already (very much so), so i doubt it will survive...
anyway im gonna treat it (and the aquarium) with metilan blue as a
precaution...

also - i've noticed a sharp increase of fungus on the glass of the
aquarium in the last 4-5 days, I'm supposed to do a water change
tomorow (last water change two weeks ago). aquarium is 100litter. and
runs smoothly for a year now, except for two fatalities last month its
going on really well...

if you want (from curiosity) i can take a photo of the sick fish... it
realy looks like a porcupine now ...

thanks
LT

Sue wrote:

> Sounds like dropsy - http://www.fishjunkies.com/Diseases/dropsy.php
>
>
> "Lior T" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been out for a couple of days, i've fed the fish before i left
> > and right after i came home.
> >
> > about 3 hours after i came back i've noticed one of the fish (small
> > red one, something like a neon but red) had inflated like a
> > balloon, u can make out its head and tail sticking out of a totaly
> > round body, twice its normal size.
> >
> > what can this be ? pregnant ? in two days ? sickness ? so far its
> > the only one that looks like this.
> >
> > thanks
> > LT

[Mean_Chlorine]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:59:33 GMT, "Lior T" > wrote:

>yeh, that seems to be it - i've isolated the fish but its scales are
>sticking out already (very much so), so i doubt it will survive...
>anyway im gonna treat it (and the aquarium) with metilan blue as a
>precaution...

Bad idea. Methylene blue has zero effect on dropsy; but it will kill
your plants and may kill your filter bacteria, causing nitrite
poisoning.
Basically there's nothing to be done about dropsy. Once it develops
the fish is almost guaranteed to die, since it's intestines have
started to rot, and the best course of action is to euthanize the
fish.
FWIW, and others disagree, in my experience dropsy is almost, but not
quite, always caused on by feeding with frozen bloodworms which have
started to go bad.

>also - i've noticed a sharp increase of fungus on the glass of the
>aquarium in the last 4-5 days

Fungus? You mean algae?

>if you want (from curiosity) i can take a photo of the sick fish... it
>realy looks like a porcupine now ...

Please do. If the photo turns out OK, consider submitting it to e.g.
this site:

http://www.2cah.com/pandora/Disease.html

(Same goes for everyone else who's got images of identified diseases:
put them on the web somewhere!)

[Lior T]

I've already applied the metilan , and yes, i ment algea not fungus...

here are the photo's of the fish - you tell me if they are worth
uploading...

http://www.liort.com/dropsy/index.html

you are also welcome to do it yourself if you wish as long as you
credit me (Lior T, Israel) , or i'l do it sometime later if you think
they are good...


thanks
LT



Mean_Chlorine wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:59:33 GMT, "Lior T" > wrote:
>
> > yeh, that seems to be it - i've isolated the fish but its scales are
> > sticking out already (very much so), so i doubt it will survive...
> > anyway im gonna treat it (and the aquarium) with metilan blue as a
> > precaution...
>
> Bad idea. Methylene blue has zero effect on dropsy; but it will kill
> your plants and may kill your filter bacteria, causing nitrite
> poisoning.
> Basically there's nothing to be done about dropsy. Once it develops
> the fish is almost guaranteed to die, since it's intestines have
> started to rot, and the best course of action is to euthanize the
> fish.
> FWIW, and others disagree, in my experience dropsy is almost, but not
> quite, always caused on by feeding with frozen bloodworms which have
> started to go bad.
>
> > also - i've noticed a sharp increase of fungus on the glass of the
> > aquarium in the last 4-5 days
>
> Fungus? You mean algae?
>
> > if you want (from curiosity) i can take a photo of the sick fish...
> > it realy looks like a porcupine now ...
>
> Please do. If the photo turns out OK, consider submitting it to e.g.
> this site:
>
> http://www.2cah.com/pandora/Disease.html
>
> (Same goes for everyone else who's got images of identified diseases:
> put them on the web somewhere!)

[Mean_Chlorine]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:03:32 GMT, "Lior T" > wrote:

>here are the photo's of the fish - you tell me if they are worth
>uploading...
>
>http://www.liort.com/dropsy/index.html

Yes, it's good photos. Especially considering that Cherry Barbs are
such small fish.

>you are also welcome to do it yourself if you wish as long as you
>credit me (Lior T, Israel) , or i'l do it sometime later if you think
>they are good...

No, sorry, I do not wish to submit your photos, and I don't think
she'd accept them if I did, as I haven't taken them. Please contact
Pandora directly, her email can be found in the red text in the
beginning of this page:
http://www.2cah.com/pandora/Disease.html

>LT

[Christy84065]

I think that is a better picture than those others on the first link

[Lior T]

Christy84065 wrote:

> I think that is a better picture than those others on the first link

OK, i've sent email to both pandora and fishjunkie telling them they
can post the photo's if they want...

btw - fish died.

thanks for all the help

LT