Sanity check

[Dale & H]

The new reef tank (still maturing) is a family project and the guys
have come up with a list of fish that they fancy populating it with:

1 x blenny
2 x clown fish
1 x regal tang
1 x long nose hawkfish
1 x goby
1 x pyjama wrasse
1 x false eye puffer

This is obviously a 12 month project in terms of population, but we
wanted to make sure the general plan made sense.

We would also ideally want a few crustaceans. The book says this may
be risky with the puffer in particular, but does anyone have any
experience of these? Also, are there other obvious incompatabilities?

The other question is which order to introduce this kind of selection.

Tank = Juwel RIO 240, real volume est 215 litres (56 US gallons),
integral filter plus external fluval 204 filter.

Thanks
Dale and H

[Anthony Pruitt]

"Dale & H" > wrote in message
om...
> The new reef tank (still maturing) is a family project and the guys
> have come up with a list of fish that they fancy populating it with:
>
> 1 x blenny
> 2 x clown fish
> 1 x regal tang
> 1 x long nose hawkfish
> 1 x goby
> 1 x pyjama wrasse
> 1 x false eye puffer
>
> This is obviously a 12 month project in terms of population, but we
> wanted to make sure the general plan made sense.
>
> We would also ideally want a few crustaceans. The book says this may
> be risky with the puffer in particular, but does anyone have any
> experience of these? Also, are there other obvious incompatabilities?
>
> The other question is which order to introduce this kind of selection.
>
> Tank = Juwel RIO 240, real volume est 215 litres (56 US gallons),
> integral filter plus external fluval 204 filter.
>
> Thanks
> Dale and H



The only one I see that might give you a problem is the puffer, for several
reasons. One...puffers are famous for getting ick when stress even a little
bit. Two...puffers are notorious fin nippers and like chewing the tails off
the other fish in the tank. Three....any crab or shrimp will become puffer
sushi, they love them.

[Billy]

"Anthony Pruitt" > wrote in message
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|
| The only one I see that might give you a problem is the puffer, for
several
| reasons. One...puffers are famous for getting ick when stress even
a little
| bit. Two...puffers are notorious fin nippers and like chewing the
tails off
| the other fish in the tank. Three....any crab or shrimp will become
puffer
| sushi, they love them.
|
|

Agree with anthony, and would like to add that you be careful with 2
clowns. They're not the sweet little things you see in the cartoons,
they can be violently territorial. Unless you get a mated pair,
they'll likely square off and kill one another, and perhaps get into
it with other fish as well.
Allow me to point out again that the 204 should go, and you'll
need a skimmer, a good one:)
billy


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[Pszemol]

"Billy" > wrote in message ...
> Agree with anthony, and would like to add that you be careful with 2
> clowns. They're not the sweet little things you see in the cartoons,
> they can be violently territorial. Unless you get a mated pair,
> they'll likely square off and kill one another, and perhaps get into
> it with other fish as well.
> Allow me to point out again that the 204 should go, and you'll
> need a skimmer, a good one:)

Dale - get small clowns, babies - you will be fine with these...

I got two very young, aquacultured maroon clowns and put them in the tank
about 5 days apart from each other and I have not observed any fights
other than occasional rubbing and pushing, but nothing harmful... This
happened around 2002. They were small and always shy and looking to hide
behind powerheads, filter piping etc, probably because there was bigger
regal tang (hepatus) in the tank and he was the king of the hill there...
So I would say they were the sweet little things you see in the cartoons :)
Since about November 2003, when I added bubble tip anemone, they both
sit in the anemone as in their home and do not fear other fish anymore... :)
I have heard maroon clowns are the most aggressive amongst clownfishes
so I would guess Dale family will be fine if they get very young clowns.
They will mate and one becomes larger female. The other will stay male.
Of course if you want to purchase adult sized - than you need to be careful
like you warned them... But aquacultured clowns are usually sold as babies.

[Phil Krasnostein]

I agree. We have had 2 false Perculas for a few months. They are benign in
the tank, and are hosting in both anemones (only one now because we lost
two) and in a giant Catalaphyllia. They don't disturb anyone else. You can
see them and others in our tank at http://community.webshots.com/user/pkras

Phil


"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "Billy" > wrote in message
...
> > Agree with anthony, and would like to add that you be careful with 2
> > clowns. They're not the sweet little things you see in the cartoons,
> > they can be violently territorial. Unless you get a mated pair,
> > they'll likely square off and kill one another, and perhaps get into
> > it with other fish as well.
> > Allow me to point out again that the 204 should go, and you'll
> > need a skimmer, a good one:)
>
> Dale - get small clowns, babies - you will be fine with these...
>
> I got two very young, aquacultured maroon clowns and put them in the tank
> about 5 days apart from each other and I have not observed any fights
> other than occasional rubbing and pushing, but nothing harmful... This
> happened around 2002. They were small and always shy and looking to hide
> behind powerheads, filter piping etc, probably because there was bigger
> regal tang (hepatus) in the tank and he was the king of the hill there...
> So I would say they were the sweet little things you see in the cartoons
:)
> Since about November 2003, when I added bubble tip anemone, they both
> sit in the anemone as in their home and do not fear other fish anymore...
:)
> I have heard maroon clowns are the most aggressive amongst clownfishes
> so I would guess Dale family will be fine if they get very young clowns.
> They will mate and one becomes larger female. The other will stay male.
> Of course if you want to purchase adult sized - than you need to be
careful
> like you warned them... But aquacultured clowns are usually sold as
babies.

[Billy]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
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| "Billy" > wrote in message
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|
| I got two very young, aquacultured maroon clowns and put them in
the tank


Indeed, you're right about that one. Even dogs and cats get along
famously if introduced properly. Thanks.


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[Dale & H]

Thanks guys. Shame about the puffer, but good news on clowns - as you
can imagine, the "Nemos" were prioritised quite highly by the kids.

Cheers
Dale and H

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> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
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> | "Billy" > wrote in message
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> | I got two very young, aquacultured maroon clowns and put them in
> the tank
>
>
> Indeed, you're right about that one. Even dogs and cats get along
> famously if introduced properly. Thanks.
>
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