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mathew roberts
August 31st 04, 07:50 PM
Greetings to all,
We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
first attack.
The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
current treatments working.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Mat.

Geezer From The Freezer
September 1st 04, 10:40 AM
mathew roberts wrote:
>
> Greetings to all,
> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
> Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
> Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
> suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
> This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
> shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
> My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
> first attack.
> The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
> current treatments working.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mat.


You could try Formalin or Potassium Permanganate. Not sure on exact dosage.
I'd also suggest dosing the tank with aquarium salt.
1 tablespoon per gallon. Add in 3 parts over 24 hours (i.e. 1 tablespoon per 3
gallons
every 12 hours). Dissolve in some tank water before adding to the tank.

September 1st 04, 02:09 PM
careful with too much medication. the fish actually need to fight off the infection
too.
formalin based medication is best for costia. and do not run the heat up with salt
in the tank and formalin, the combination is bad.
heat and salt is treatment for ich ...
what are the other water parameters? I am wondering why you are continuing to get
hit with costia? you putting new fish into teh tank without a month quarantine?
Ingrid

mathew roberts > wrote:

>Greetings to all,
> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
>Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
>Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
>suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
>This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
>shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
>My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
>first attack.
>The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
>current treatments working.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Cheers
>
>Mat.



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Lilly
September 1st 04, 07:03 PM
Try this article
http://koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=19&category=17&name=Diseases

Lilly

mathew roberts > wrote in message >...
> Greetings to all,
> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
> Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
> Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
> suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
> This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
> shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
> My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
> first attack.
> The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
> current treatments working.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mat.

mathew roberts
September 1st 04, 08:06 PM
Hi,
thanks for the advice. The fish in both cases were in a quarantine
tanks(we have a couple). The reason for transferance between the tanks
is we think down to use of common equipment, i.e. the hose used for
syphoning the water out of the tanks. We have now taken to using
seperate equipment as a resultof this problem. Treatment continues.

The moral of the story is never buy fish if they are cheaper than normal
and look too good to be true(they've got something nasty).

Cheers

Mat.
wrote:
> careful with too much medication. the fish actually need to fight off the infection
> too.
> formalin based medication is best for costia. and do not run the heat up with salt
> in the tank and formalin, the combination is bad.
> heat and salt is treatment for ich ...
> what are the other water parameters? I am wondering why you are continuing to get
> hit with costia? you putting new fish into teh tank without a month quarantine?
> Ingrid
>
> mathew roberts > wrote:
>
>
>>Greetings to all,
>> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
>>Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
>>Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
>>suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
>>This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
>>shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
>>My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
>>first attack.
>>The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
>>current treatments working.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Mat.
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

mathew roberts
September 1st 04, 09:07 PM
Hi,
An excellent article. Thanks. Ive just caustic Washed 2 tanks (the
99% pure crystaline stuff, industry grade). Would this kill the costia
in those tanks?
We are Using Interpet Anti-slime and velvet(says its active aganst
costia) not sure if its formalin based though, haven't seen Formalin for
sale in the UK.

Cheers

Mat.

Lilly wrote:

> Try this article
> http://koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=19&category=17&name=Diseases
>
> Lilly
>
> mathew roberts > wrote in message >...
>
>>Greetings to all,
>> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
>>Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
>>Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
>>suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
>>This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
>>shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
>>My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
>>first attack.
>>The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
>>current treatments working.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Mat.

Tom L. La Bron
September 2nd 04, 03:49 AM
Matt,

If you are sure it is costia usually a 0.3% treatment
of salt is effective against it, but since you are one
of those individuals that seems to have salt in your
tanks you may have the strain of costia that resists
salt treatments. If it is the salt resistant strain of
costia this strain can survive 0.6% salt concentrations.

The next best bet is formalin. 25 - 30 ppm of formalin
for two to three hours followed by a 50 - 95% water
change. This treatment is repeated daily for four or
five treatments.

If you are in the UK, good luck. All I can suggest is
that you read the med labels looking for one that has
formalin in it. I am not familiar with the one that
you mentioned.

Also, when you are using formalin based med make sure
you have plenty of aeration in the tank and make sure
there is circulation of the water in the tank. Also it
is not good using formalin in water that is 80 degrees
and above in temperature.

HTH

Tom L.L.
------------------------------------------------------
mathew roberts wrote:
> Hi,
> An excellent article. Thanks. Ive just caustic Washed 2 tanks (the
> 99% pure crystaline stuff, industry grade). Would this kill the costia
> in those tanks?
> We are Using Interpet Anti-slime and velvet(says its active aganst
> costia) not sure if its formalin based though, haven't seen Formalin for
> sale in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mat.
>
> Lilly wrote:
>
>> Try this article
>> http://koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=19&category=17&name=Diseases
>>
>>
>> Lilly
>>
>> mathew roberts > wrote in message
>> >...
>>
>>> Greetings to all,
>>> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We
>>> have tried Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We
>>> haven't tried Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some
>>> tomorrow). Any other suggestions would be greatly received. We are
>>> desperate.
>>> This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from
>>> different shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK
>>> at the moment.
>>> My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure
>>> the first attack.
>>> The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
>>> current treatments working.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mat.
>
>

Geezer From The Freezer
September 2nd 04, 11:18 AM
"Tom L. La Bron" wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> If you are sure it is costia usually a 0.3% treatment
> of salt is effective against it, but since you are one
> of those individuals that seems to have salt in your
> tanks you may have the strain of costia that resists
> salt treatments. If it is the salt resistant strain of
> costia this strain can survive 0.6% salt concentrations.
>
> The next best bet is formalin. 25 - 30 ppm of formalin
> for two to three hours followed by a 50 - 95% water
> change. This treatment is repeated daily for four or
> five treatments.
>

And ensure your tank has no salt if using formalin!

Lilly
September 2nd 04, 03:30 PM
I don't know if you can get it at the pharmacy (you guys call them
chemists, right?) but you could try to purchase formaldehyde, dilute
it to make formalin. I would have to look up the dilution rate to be
certain you don't "pickle" your fish. Or if you can find a product
called Quick Cure, that contains formalin too.

What is "caustic Washed 2" you refer to, and is it fish safe? Are we
talking potas. permanganate?

According to Doc Johnson, salt for non-resistant strains, formalin for
resistant strains. Does the Interpet package tell you what the active
ingredients are?

Lilly

mathew roberts > wrote in message >...
> Hi,
> An excellent article. Thanks. Ive just caustic Washed 2 tanks (the
> 99% pure crystaline stuff, industry grade). Would this kill the costia
> in those tanks?
> We are Using Interpet Anti-slime and velvet(says its active aganst
> costia) not sure if its formalin based though, haven't seen Formalin for
> sale in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mat.
>
> Lilly wrote:
>
> > Try this article
> > http://koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=19&category=17&name=Diseases
> >
> > Lilly
> >
> > mathew roberts > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>Greetings to all,
> >> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
> >>Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
> >>Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
> >>suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
> >>This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
> >>shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
> >>My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
> >>first attack.
> >>The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
> >>current treatments working.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>
> >>Mat.

marcos
September 2nd 04, 08:28 PM
mathew roberts > wrote in message >...
> Greetings to all,
> We have a little problem with Costia and its spreading. We have tried
> Interpet's anti slime and velvet but it hasn't worked. We haven't tried
> Waterlife's Protazin yet( will try to get some tomorrow). Any other
> suggestions would be greatly received. We are desperate.
> This is the second hit with costia in the past 3 months from different
> shops. I would think twice about buying anything in the UK at the moment.
> My partner turned up the tank temperature to 30 C and seemed to cure the
> first attack.
> The second costia episode seems far more virilant with none of our
> current treatments working.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mat.

Hi
YEs! use Waterlife's Protazin. Its actually the only chemical-stuffed
remedies that actually "worked" for me. I've used Protazin 2x before n
it worked after a week of medication.
john