Re: Black spots on Sabae Clown

[Richard Reynolds]

> Then I have this fellow in my 30 gallon that appears healthy, eats well,
> swims well etc. I have had it for about 2 years. About three months ago I
> started seeing black spots on this Sabae. This was my first SW tank and has
> been running for about three years.


I am looking at the pics and my first reaction is to call it normal coloration, what I see
in the pictures doesnt stand off from her scales, if they were then i might worry but I
dont see that in the pictures. do they apear flat, is she doing the anti ich thing against
rocks and such ??

> Water conditions are fine (I'm ducking!)...

yea you had better duck :) hehe

> Both tanks test the same.
> ammonia 0
> nitrates 0
> nitrites 0
> ph 8.2 to 8.4 ish
> calcium 400ish
> Salinity 1.025/34
> I dose daily with B-Ionic 2pt buffer.

i dont dose the 2 part buffers but id think you need a tad more of the calc part

> This fish was very small when I got it (maybe an inch and a 1/4 and is now 2
> 1/4inches almost as big as the coral beauty) Could it be going through some
> changes?


she could have just changed to a she some clowns do change colors a tad maybee (reaching
FAR here) she just changed to a she 3 months ago???

> It also likes to hang out in one of my Zoanthids that's behind him in the
> Pic's, could it be getting stung?

i wouldnt worry about her getting stung by now she should have adapted to it.

> Thanks in advance for any info.
> Bob

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[Marc Levenson]

You might post that page with your same comments in the Clownfish Forum on ReefCentral.com.

Marc



> > Then I have this fellow in my 30 gallon that appears healthy, eats well,
> > swims well etc. I have had it for about 2 years. About three months ago I
> > started seeing black spots on this Sabae. This was my first SW tank and has
> > been running for about three years.
> > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > Bob
>

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[Boomer]

These spots are often encountered in clowns and is believed to be associated with the
clowns taking up a non-natural host>

"It also likes to hang out in one of my Zoanthids that's behind him in the
Pic's, could it be getting stung?"


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"Bob" > wrote in message ...
: Hi All......
: I have googled this a couple of times and can not find any info. With
: the wealth of knowledge here maybe someone has seen it before.
: I have three Sabae's. A pair that live in my ten gallon nano for about a
: year with no problems.
: (10 gal, 3inchs southdown, bakpak2 skimmer, power head, 25lbs LR, 2 sabae's
: and a LTA, 72watts PC)
: Then I have this fellow in my 30 gallon that appears healthy, eats well,
: swims well etc. I have had it for about 2 years. About three months ago I
: started seeing black spots on this Sabae. This was my first SW tank and has
: been running for about three years.
: 30 gallons, Remora skimmer, 2 maxijet power heads,192watts PC, 75 lbs LR,
: cuushed coral base 2 to 4 Inches. Water changes in both tanks are 20% every
: two weeks. Same salt (IO), same water RO/DI.
: Fish in 30 = 1 small yellow tang small, 1 yellow tail damsel(yep 3 years
: old), 1 coral beauty small, and of course the black spotted Sabae. All fish
: have been in this tank a year or longer and get along well.
: In addition to the fish both tanks have snails and red and blue leg hermits.
: Water conditions are fine (I'm ducking!)...
: Both tanks test the same.
: ammonia 0
: nitrates 0
: nitrites 0
: ph 8.2 to 8.4 ish
: calcium 400ish
: Salinity 1.025/34
: I dose daily with B-Ionic 2pt buffer.
: The reason I gave both tanks info is because they are both similar and both
: contain Sabae's
: Nothing has changed in these tank's in at least a year (except for the black
: spots on the Sabae in the 30 gal).
: Pic's of black spots on Sabae
: http://home.hvc.rr.com/cyberbob/spots/Thumbs1.htm
: Has anyone ever seen this before or read about it anywhere?
: Possible causes? It does not seem to bother the clown but this can't be
: healthy I would think.
: This fish was very small when I got it (maybe an inch and a 1/4 and is now 2
: 1/4inches almost as big as the coral beauty) Could it be going through some
: changes?
: It also likes to hang out in one of my Zoanthids that's behind him in the
: Pic's, could it be getting stung?
: Thanks in advance for any info.
: Bob
:
:

[Bob]

Thanks Marc...
Running over to reefcentral now to do some reading.
Bob
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> You might post that page with your same comments in the Clownfish Forum on
ReefCentral.com.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> > > Then I have this fellow in my 30 gallon that appears healthy, eats
well,
> > > swims well etc. I have had it for about 2 years. About three months
ago I
> > > started seeing black spots on this Sabae. This was my first SW tank
and has
> > > been running for about three years.
> > > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > > Bob
> >
>
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>
>

[Bob]

> I am looking at the pics and my first reaction is to call it normal
coloration, what I see
> in the pictures doesnt stand off from her scales, if they were then i
might worry but I
> dont see that in the pictures. do they apear flat, is she doing the anti
ich thing against
> rocks and such ??
You are right Richard. They are flat and do not stand off. just coloration.
No ick thing.
I'm reading reefcentral now for other cases and the more I read the more I
think Boomer is correct.
It appears to be a coloration thing and not a sickness thing because anyone
who has seen it does not say the fish are acting sick.

"These spots are often encountered in clowns and is believed to be
associated with the
clowns taking up a non-natural host>"

I think Boomer has the answer here. I guess it's time to buy yet another
book. :)
Maybe I can just speed read at Barnes & Noble.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. At the very least you put my mind at
ease that I'm not about to have it croak. In three years I've lost only one
fish (A yellow tail damsel) that jumped from the tank.
I hate it when that happens.

Thanks Again
Bob