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Richard Reynolds
July 12th 03, 01:41 AM
> Well, now my situation has changed and my budget for the big tank just went
> right out the window. I am still determined to do SOMETHING though,
> however, money is now an object.

been there doing that

> I am picking up a used 75 acryllic tomorrow with a huge wet/dry, built in
> overflow, with two returns drilled in at the top corners. (the overflow is
> in the center of the back wall...pretty neat looking) and a nice stand. The
> woodwork needs to be refinished but hey, for $200, what the heck!

sounds alright to me

> The canopy has flourescent lights built in (I think they are VHO but I'm not
> sure)
> My plan for right now is to go FO to start with. For that, I should be able
> to use the wet/dry and a hang on protein skimmer right? Or, will that be
> too many nitrates from the wet/dry? Is that not so important since it will
> be FO?

you can and should use a wet/dry in a FO, as long as its going to stay a FO i wouldnt give
it a second thought. as for HOB skimmers it depends on which one you get, but generally
most of them are not worth there time, and definately not worth your money unless you
really wanna be cheap, the thing is you can run any tank w/o a skimmer just fine, so you
could get a $100 skimmer and get by just fine, its just much easier to run a skimmer.
inverts and corals are the things that cant handle moderate nitrates, fish on the other
hand can handle much much higher nitrate levels, so a wet/dry isnt too much.

> Also, is a RO/DI unit NECESSARY for a FO tank? I will definately get one
> before I add any LR or inverts but for now, I am eager to set this up (on a
> tight budget unfortunately)

I ran my FO off of conditioned tap water for a long time, i didnt have the problems that
reefs have including my own, less light, and less sources for funny algaes and less places
for them to grow, keeps them under control much easier than any reef.

> Eventually I will go FOWLR as I can afford to upgrade down the road and
> slowly add the components needed to do a reef.
> Does my plan sound feasable or should I take a step back and rethink the
> whole thing?

the catch is you may end up spending a lot of time converting that FO to a reef, you will
have to do many many massive waterchanges to lower things like nitrate, phosphate .....
things that will doom a reef wont make a FO skip a beat. if you think you can handle it go
for it, if not buy something now as a FO, and plan on getting a reef later down the line.

>
> TIA
>
> ~Mort

--
Richard Reynolds

Marc Levenson
July 12th 03, 01:41 AM
For a FO tank, lighting is not an issue, so NO or VHO is fine. RO/DI is better
to avoid algae issues, but you can go with tap water and Seachem's "Prime" for
now.

The wet/dry will work fine on the FO tank. More LR later will allow you to
slowly remove the bioballs.

Sorry to hear you lost your millions. Enron, eh? ;)

Marc


Mort wrote:

> Well, now my situation has changed and my budget for the big tank just went
> right out the window. I am still determined to do SOMETHING though,
> however, money is now an object.
>
> I am picking up a used 75 acryllic tomorrow with a huge wet/dry, built in
> overflow, with two returns drilled in at the top corners. (the overflow is
> in the center of the back wall...pretty neat looking) and a nice stand. The
> woodwork needs to be refinished but hey, for $200, what the heck!
>
> The canopy has flourescent lights built in (I think they are VHO but I'm not
> sure)
> My plan for right now is to go FO to start with. For that, I should be able
> to use the wet/dry and a hang on protein skimmer right? Or, will that be
> too many nitrates from the wet/dry? Is that not so important since it will
> be FO?
>
> Also, is a RO/DI unit NECESSARY for a FO tank? I will definately get one
> before I add any LR or inverts but for now, I am eager to set this up (on a
> tight budget unfortunately)
>
> Eventually I will go FOWLR as I can afford to upgrade down the road and
> slowly add the components needed to do a reef.
>
> Does my plan sound feasable or should I take a step back and rethink the
> whole thing?
>
> TIA
>
> ~Mort

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Mort
July 12th 03, 05:31 AM
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> For a FO tank, lighting is not an issue, so NO or VHO is fine. RO/DI is
better
> to avoid algae issues, but you can go with tap water and Seachem's "Prime"
for
> now.
>
> The wet/dry will work fine on the FO tank. More LR later will allow you
to
> slowly remove the bioballs.
>
> Sorry to hear you lost your millions. Enron, eh? ;)
>
> Marc


Yeah, I feel like I am letting some of you guys down after all the help you
gave me =\

I'll be doing the "big one" soon enough though =)
And perhaps starting out w/ FO will be better so I can adjust to sal****er
slowly.

Thanks again for all your help. I'll keep you posted. =)

~Mort

Teeb
July 13th 03, 03:35 PM
Hey these guys live for answering questions especially to someone starting
out, lol.. you didn't dissapoint anyone, you just gave them something new to
discuss, lol.

Teeb

"Mort" > wrote in message
.com...
> Well, now my situation has changed and my budget for the big tank just
went
> right out the window. I am still determined to do SOMETHING though,
> however, money is now an object.

Mort
July 14th 03, 03:34 AM
Sweet, thanks for the encouraging words Teeb...


~Mort


"Teeb" > wrote in message
...
> Hey these guys live for answering questions especially to someone starting
> out, lol.. you didn't dissapoint anyone, you just gave them something new
to
> discuss, lol.
>
> Teeb
>
> "Mort" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > Well, now my situation has changed and my budget for the big tank just
> went
> > right out the window. I am still determined to do SOMETHING though,
> > however, money is now an object.
>
>
>

plaguebeast
July 14th 03, 04:53 AM
"Mort" > wrote in message
.com...
> Sweet, thanks for the encouraging words Teeb...
>
>
> ~Mort
>
>
> "Teeb" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hey these guys live for answering questions especially to someone
starting
> > out, lol.. you didn't dissapoint anyone, you just gave them something
new
> to
> > discuss, lol.
> >
> > Teeb
> >
> > "Mort" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > Well, now my situation has changed and my budget for the big tank just
> > went
> > > right out the window. I am still determined to do SOMETHING though,
> > > however, money is now an object.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I also was thinking of starting with something like 225 gallons until I
started working out the physical and financial logistics....and of course
talking to my wife, the eternal voice of reason. She keeps suggesting that
I get a job first... dunno why, though.