Advice needed

[Wilson]

Setting up my pond right now.....the basics of it now to be finished next
spring, I'll be having a rock stepping stone pathway to the pond from my
patio and I want moss grown in between stones. What is the best type moss
to use and the best time to plant?? My pond will have a small top pond
acting as a veggie filter....what is the best plant for that? (no fish in
top pond)

Thanks in advance.....

Dave

[Wilson]

"Wilson" > wrote in message
m...
> Setting up my pond right now.....the basics of it now to be finished next
> spring, I'll be having a rock stepping stone pathway to the pond from my
> patio and I want moss grown in between stones. What is the best type moss
> to use and the best time to plant?? My pond will have a small top pond
> acting as a veggie filter....what is the best plant for that? (no fish in
> top pond)
>
> Thanks in advance.....
>
> Dave

Just 1 more question.....

My pond is going to be sunk in an above ground flow garden for easy
access....other than having to have a heater for the winter? will this setup
cause any other problems I'm not aware of ?

Thanks again....

Dave

[Ka30P]

Hi Dave,
Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew what area of
the country you live in and what your garden zone is.

Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use water
hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some parts of the
country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and bubbler to
keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Wilson]

"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dave,
> Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew what
area of
> the country you live in and what your garden zone is.
>
> Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use water
> hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
> Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some parts of
the
> country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
> In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and bubbler
to
> keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.
>
>
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Thanks Kathy.....I live in central Missouri whatever zone that is :)

Dave

[Dave and Miss]

Hey Dave...I too have a stone path leading from patio to pond (
http://photos.yahoo.com/jeepin9557 ) and have had no luck with moss growing
between the stepping stones since my path is in full sun. I tried many
different types of "stepables" and the wooly thyme and creeping thyme have
done well in full sun. However, if you have a shady path, you may have more
luck than I with moss. Here is a good link to a site pertaining to moss
http://www.mossacres.com/moss/ Good luck.......Dave
"Wilson" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Ka30P" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Dave,
> > Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew what
> area of
> > the country you live in and what your garden zone is.
> >
> > Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use
water
> > hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
> > Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some parts
of
> the
> > country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
> > In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and
bubbler
> to
> > keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.
> >
> >
> > kathy :-)
> > algae primer
> > http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html
>
> Thanks Kathy.....I live in central Missouri whatever zone that is :)
>
> Dave
>
>

[Wilson]

"Dave and Miss" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Dave...I too have a stone path leading from patio to pond (
> http://photos.yahoo.com/jeepin9557 ) and have had no luck with moss
growing
> between the stepping stones since my path is in full sun. I tried many
> different types of "stepables" and the wooly thyme and creeping thyme have
> done well in full sun. However, if you have a shady path, you may have
more
> luck than I with moss. Here is a good link to a site pertaining to moss
> http://www.mossacres.com/moss/ Good luck.......Dave

Thanks! That's a great site which will answer most of my questions.....I'm
jealous of your ponds btw, very nice.

Dave

[Ka30P]

Dave wrote >>Thanks Kathy.....I live in central Missouri whatever zone that is
:)<<

I paged Nedra in the header, she lives in Missouri. I tend to think of Missouri
as part of the steamy south but from reading Nedra's posts over the years I was
surprised to find it can get rather wintery!
Water hyacinth is a great veggie filter plant because of its nice long roots,
they gather up muck and use up the nutrients.
You can find out if they are illegal in your state by searching
'Missouri, noxious aquatic plants'. What states are concerned about is ponders
dumping their excess plants in natural waterways or ponders who live on a
floodplain and their plants all get washed away.
Other good filter plants are water celery, watercress, water mint. Others will
chime in.

>>> Hi Dave,
> Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew what
area of
> the country you live in and what your garden zone is.
>
> Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use water
> hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
> Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some parts of
the
> country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
> In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and bubbler
to
> keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.
><<<


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Nedra]

Hi Kathy and Dave ....
It's me - Nedra. I live a bit south of St. Louis but I'm somewhat familiar
with outstate Missouri.
My zone here is 6 - I think Dave may be zone 5 or zone 6... depending ;-)
The Zone maps cut the state in two - Basically along Highway 70.
The bootheel it so far south it is in zone 7.
HTH

Nedra

"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> Dave wrote >>Thanks Kathy.....I live in central Missouri whatever zone
that is
> :)<<
>
> I paged Nedra in the header, she lives in Missouri. I tend to think of
Missouri
> as part of the steamy south but from reading Nedra's posts over the years
I was
> surprised to find it can get rather wintery!
> Water hyacinth is a great veggie filter plant because of its nice long
roots,
> they gather up muck and use up the nutrients.
> You can find out if they are illegal in your state by searching
> 'Missouri, noxious aquatic plants'. What states are concerned about is
ponders
> dumping their excess plants in natural waterways or ponders who live on a
> floodplain and their plants all get washed away.
> Other good filter plants are water celery, watercress, water mint. Others
will
> chime in.
>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> > Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew what
> area of
> > the country you live in and what your garden zone is.
> >
> > Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use
water
> > hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
> > Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some parts
of
> the
> > country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
> > In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and
bubbler
> to
> > keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.
> ><<<
>
>
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Ka30P]

Nedra, I can't remember but do you run a veggie filter? And if you do what
kinds of plants to you use in it? What winter care do you give it?

kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Nedra]

Oh yes indeed, Kathy - I have a wonderful veggie filter. It is crammed
full of WH,
water celery and huge yellow iris. Winter care is basically just remove the
WH after the first frost.
Irises stay in the filter as does the water celery. They (iris) need to be
divided this year for sure.
I keep the filter
full of water all winter long. It does get iced up and an air stone keeps a
nice sized hole
open. This year I'll probably vac it out. I'm sure it needs it. Can't
think of anything else
I do.

Nedra

"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> Nedra, I can't remember but do you run a veggie filter? And if you do what
> kinds of plants to you use in it? What winter care do you give it?
>
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Nedra]

I just looked up the zone map and boy oh boy am I ever wrong. We have a zone
4 up around
northern Missouri - then, zone 5 cuts in and is south - way south of
Highway 70. Anyway Zone
6 is the lower portion of the state... then zone 7 is the bottom most. If
you want to see this here's
what I do... just Google Zone Map. lololol - sorry I don't have the link.

Nedra

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Hi Kathy and Dave ....
> It's me - Nedra. I live a bit south of St. Louis but I'm somewhat
familiar
> with outstate Missouri.
> My zone here is 6 - I think Dave may be zone 5 or zone 6... depending ;-)
> The Zone maps cut the state in two - Basically along Highway 70.
> The bootheel it so far south it is in zone 7.
> HTH
>
> Nedra
>
> "Ka30P" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dave wrote >>Thanks Kathy.....I live in central Missouri whatever zone
> that is
> > :)<<
> >
> > I paged Nedra in the header, she lives in Missouri. I tend to think of
> Missouri
> > as part of the steamy south but from reading Nedra's posts over the
years
> I was
> > surprised to find it can get rather wintery!
> > Water hyacinth is a great veggie filter plant because of its nice long
> roots,
> > they gather up muck and use up the nutrients.
> > You can find out if they are illegal in your state by searching
> > 'Missouri, noxious aquatic plants'. What states are concerned about is
> ponders
> > dumping their excess plants in natural waterways or ponders who live on
a
> > floodplain and their plants all get washed away.
> > Other good filter plants are water celery, watercress, water mint.
Others
> will
> > chime in.
> >
> > >>> Hi Dave,
> > > Some of your questions' answers will be better answered if we knew
what
> > area of
> > > the country you live in and what your garden zone is.
> > >
> > > Here in zone 7, SE WA, arid, I'd plant moss in the spring and I use
> water
> > > hyacinth in my veggie filter and watercress in my waterfall.
> > > Some plants are actively discouraged and outright illegal in some
parts
> of
> > the
> > > country (SE USA and water hyacinth come to mind).
> > > In the winter I don't heat my pond. I usually use an air pump and
> bubbler
> > to
> > > keep a hole open in the ice or a stock tank heater.
> > ><<<
> >
> >
> > kathy :-)
> > algae primer
> > http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html
>

[Ka30P]

Thanks Nedra, that's a great answer
for the original poster's question.
Surprising that you all have a zone 4!
Never thought of Missouri being that
cold!


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Nedra]

Your welcome, Kathy ;-)
What is even more surprising about the zones in Missouri is that the
Northern portion (zone 4/5) is called Little Dixie. There are towns whose
architecture
is pure plantation. The early town folk just headed on up the Mississippi
when their
southern way of life was threatened/abolished.

Nedra

"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
>
> Thanks Nedra, that's a great answer
> for the original poster's question.
> Surprising north being that
> cold!
>
>
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Crashj]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:21:04 GMT, "Wilson"
> wrote:

>Setting up my pond right now
<>
> My pond will have a small top pond
>acting as a veggie filter....what is the best plant for that? (no fish in top pond)

Hah! That's what they all say. I have at least three fry in there
right now. I wonder if they rode the filter pump (Definite E ticket!)
or if fertile eggs got pumped up there?
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Crashj
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Crashj