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Roy
September 6th 04, 01:50 PM
I noticed there are a lot of companies that sell the so called bio
filter bacteria. I also noticed there are also lots of various enzymes
packaged and advertised. One is supposed to rid tanks of odors and
solids, and another is supposed to rid tanks and ponds of amonia and
nitrites, while yet another is supposed to rid pond of veg matter.

Are there this many enzymes or is it just really a strain of bacteria
that in the process of riding ammonia and nitrites and decayed matter
also remove other unwanted things as well.

What I am getting at is, Will any enzyme product listed for ponds
be suffieicent to seed a bio filter.....
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RichToyBox
September 7th 04, 01:08 AM
There are a lot of products out there to take your money. Unfortunately,
except for a product called KI Nitrifier, which must be kept refrigerated,
none of them will kick start a filter. The filter bacteria are very
difficult to keep alive, even for a few hours. They must eat, so they have
to have ammonia and nitrites available or they starve. They also require
oxygen.

The other good bacteria is KoiZyme to keep down the bad bacteria that cause
ulcers.

All the other bacteria and enzymes which help the bacteria thrive, are
really biological digesters for cleaning solids, muck, vegatable matter, all
of which break down in the pond and will create hydrogen sulfide gas, which
stinks, and is toxic to the fish.

Most of the bacteria are available in nature and will self populate. The
muck eaters have a hard time keeping up with the pond, so multiple dosing is
required to have the high numbers of bacteria needed to clean the pond well,
particularly if it is a rock bottom pond or one that has not had the leaves
and other debris removed.
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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> I noticed there are a lot of companies that sell the so called bio
> filter bacteria. I also noticed there are also lots of various enzymes
> packaged and advertised. One is supposed to rid tanks of odors and
> solids, and another is supposed to rid tanks and ponds of amonia and
> nitrites, while yet another is supposed to rid pond of veg matter.
>
> Are there this many enzymes or is it just really a strain of bacteria
> that in the process of riding ammonia and nitrites and decayed matter
> also remove other unwanted things as well.
>
> What I am getting at is, Will any enzyme product listed for ponds
> be suffieicent to seed a bio filter.....
> Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
> Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
> I had no input whatsoever.
> Remove "nospam" from email addy.

~ jan JJsPond.us
September 7th 04, 04:31 AM
Well.... supposedly there is enzymes and there are bacteria starters. The
best bang for the buck that I have seen is the stuff called BZT by United
Tech. Someone probably has the Ponder Special info somewhere.

Then there are others who consider all of the above snake oil. One just has
to try and see what their results are, but they work best with good
aeration, and all ponds seem to do better with high aeration, so is it the
bacteria/enzyme or is it that the ponder finally got the aeration right
after reading on the bottle to add it?

BZT though, for a natural pond, I believe is the best buy. ~ jan

>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:50:21 GMT, (Roy) wrote:

>I noticed there are a lot of companies that sell the so called bio
>filter bacteria. I also noticed there are also lots of various enzymes
>packaged and advertised. One is supposed to rid tanks of odors and
>solids, and another is supposed to rid tanks and ponds of amonia and
>nitrites, while yet another is supposed to rid pond of veg matter.
>
>Are there this many enzymes or is it just really a strain of bacteria
>that in the process of riding ammonia and nitrites and decayed matter
>also remove other unwanted things as well.
>
>What I am getting at is, Will any enzyme product listed for ponds
>be suffieicent to seed a bio filter.....
>Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
>Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
>I had no input whatsoever.
>Remove "nospam" from email addy.

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

September 7th 04, 02:59 PM
the only thing seems to work is Biospira. I heard fritzyme has one that works as
well. Ingrid


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