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IRR
September 11th 04, 01:56 AM
Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.

so238
September 16th 04, 11:52 PM
IRR wrote:
> Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
> creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
> temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.
>
>
You're in the right newsgroup! A number of aquarium plants will do well
in such a setting, often as not better than underwater. Dwarf anubias
(A. nana) is up to 2" high, pretty tough-leaved, likes high temp and
very hardy. Bright light not necessary but won't harm. Has a reputation
for growing so slow it drives you mad, but if grown emerged, is much
faster than underwater. I had real good results growing it above water
under the filter return spray. Let it creep up the driftwood, on rocks etc.
Java moss and similar moss-like things should do well. Riccia might need
to have water after all so not so great. Hope it's a good start.

Seb

jaypython
September 17th 04, 05:51 PM
hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)



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sophie
September 17th 04, 05:59 PM
In message >, so238
> writes
>IRR wrote:
>> Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
>> creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
>> temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.
>>
>You're in the right newsgroup! A number of aquarium plants will do well
>in such a setting, often as not better than underwater. Dwarf anubias
>(A. nana) is up to 2" high, pretty tough-leaved, likes high temp and
>very hardy. Bright light not necessary but won't harm. Has a reputation
>for growing so slow it drives you mad, but if grown emerged, is much
>faster than underwater. I had real good results growing it above water
>under the filter return spray. Let it creep up the driftwood, on rocks etc.
>Java moss and similar moss-like things should do well. Riccia might
>need to have water after all so not so great. Hope it's a good start.
>
>Seb

creeping jenny should do well; it's not an aquatic plant (though you can
grow it in aquariums) - the only problem is it might take over.

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IRR
September 19th 04, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!




"jaypython" -DONTEMAIL> wrote in message
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> hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
> about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
> the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)
>
>
>
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>
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sophie
September 19th 04, 10:06 PM
In message >, IRR
> writes
>Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
>some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of bio
>cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth going,
>and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps we
>might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
>I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the java
>moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
>Any other suggestions are welcomed!

Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't
actually an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my
garden, so replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it,
which is unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!
>
>
>
>
>"jaypython" -DONTEMAIL> wrote in message
...
>> hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
>> about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
>> the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -RadCliffe-
>>
>> Posted via CichlidFish.com
>> http://www.cichlidfish.com/portal/forums
>
>

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IRR
September 21st 04, 03:53 AM
"sophie" > wrote in message
...
> In message >, IRR
> > writes
>>Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
>>some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
>>bio
>>cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
>>going,
>>and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps
>>we
>>might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
>>I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
>>java
>>moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
>>Any other suggestions are welcomed!
>
> Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
> jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
> but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't actually
> an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden, so
> replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
> unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!

Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically. The
bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser), whereas
at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks w/
a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up my
earlier vivarium question!

jaypython
September 21st 04, 12:54 PM
..............so its not a vivarium????

:idonno:



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sophie
September 21st 04, 03:37 PM
In message >, IRR
> writes
>"sophie" > wrote in message
...
>> In message >, IRR
>> > writes
>>>Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
>>>some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
>>>bio
>>>cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
>>>going,
>>>and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps
>>>we
>>>might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
>>>I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
>>>java
>>>moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
>>>Any other suggestions are welcomed!
>>
>> Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
>> jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
>> but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't actually
>> an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden, so
>> replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
>> unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!
>
>Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
>both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically. The
>bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser), whereas
>at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
>same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
>that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
>planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks w/
>a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up my
>earlier vivarium question!

It sounds lovely. do you have photos?
>
>
>

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IRR
September 23rd 04, 05:56 AM
"sophie" > wrote in message
...
> In message >, IRR
> > writes
>>"sophie" > wrote in message
...
>>> In message >, IRR
>>> > writes
>>>>Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
>>>>some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
>>>>bio
>>>>cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
>>>>going,
>>>>and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of
>>>>reptiles/herps
>>>>we
>>>>might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
>>>>I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
>>>>java
>>>>moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
>>>>Any other suggestions are welcomed!
>>>
>>> Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
>>> jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
>>> but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't
>>> actually
>>> an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden,
>>> so
>>> replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
>>> unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!
>>
>>Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
>>both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically.
>>The
>>bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser),
>>whereas
>>at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
>>same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
>>that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
>>planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks
>>w/
>>a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up
>>my
>>earlier vivarium question!
>
> It sounds lovely. do you have photos?
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> sophie

Thanks Sophie.. as soon as this creeping jenny fills in the brown spots :)
I'll post a link with photos, hopefully garner some more tips from the old
pros here!