Black Moor sitting on the bottom

[marcos]

Hi
My black moor's been sitting on the bottom lately. Now I've had this
problem b4. It sits on the bottom n when it's feeding time it comes up
to get food, swims n forages for a while n goes back resting on the
bottom. Now the scary thing was that a few times, the moor was lying
sideways on the bottom as if it were dead or sumthing but comes up to
feed. It also has some white specks (not exactly spots) on the head n
tailfin. So, any1 know what this mite be?
john

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
> Hi
> My black moor's been sitting on the bottom lately. Now I've had this
> problem b4. It sits on the bottom n when it's feeding time it comes up
> to get food, swims n forages for a while n goes back resting on the
> bottom. Now the scary thing was that a few times, the moor was lying
> sideways on the bottom as if it were dead or sumthing but comes up to
> feed. It also has some white specks (not exactly spots) on the head n
> tailfin. So, any1 know what this mite be?

Almost assuredly bad water.
Do a 50% PWC, measure ammonia, nitrites and nitrates,
and report back here. Hop to it!

The spots are apt to be ich, but water quality is
essential for treatment of that as well.

Gunther

[cabaloz]

Hey John,
Have you noticed if your Moor is flashing (rubbing itself against the decor
or gravel)? If so, it sounds like flukes which can be treated very
successfully with Praziquanten.
If the specks look like tiny grains of salt, it could be white spot or Ick
and this can be treated with salt (make certain the salt you are using is
pure and contains no other additives)..
For details on white spot treatment using salt please see
http://www.goldfishparadise.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11922
Hope this helps.




"marcos" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi
> My black moor's been sitting on the bottom lately. Now I've had this
> problem b4. It sits on the bottom n when it's feeding time it comes up
> to get food, swims n forages for a while n goes back resting on the
> bottom. Now the scary thing was that a few times, the moor was lying
> sideways on the bottom as if it were dead or sumthing but comes up to
> feed. It also has some white specks (not exactly spots) on the head n
> tailfin. So, any1 know what this mite be?
> john

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I agree... and, you are probably overfeeding the fish. it sounds like digestive
problems as well.
spots on the gills or head is breeding stars. a few on the tail could be epistylis
and due to poor water.
if it looks like crystals of salt, then it is ich and you must treat fast. two
things bring on ich, adding new unquarantined fish and a big temp drop.
Ingrid

Gunther > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Hi
>> My black moor's been sitting on the bottom lately. Now I've had this
>> problem b4. It sits on the bottom n when it's feeding time it comes up
>> to get food, swims n forages for a while n goes back resting on the
>> bottom. Now the scary thing was that a few times, the moor was lying
>> sideways on the bottom as if it were dead or sumthing but comes up to
>> feed. It also has some white specks (not exactly spots) on the head n
>> tailfin. So, any1 know what this mite be?
>
>Almost assuredly bad water.
>Do a 50% PWC, measure ammonia, nitrites and nitrates,
>and report back here. Hop to it!
>
>The spots are apt to be ich, but water quality is
>essential for treatment of that as well.
>
>Gunther



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[marcos]

"cabaloz" > wrote in message >...
> Hey John,
> Have you noticed if your Moor is flashing (rubbing itself against the decor
> or gravel)? If so, it sounds like flukes which can be treated very
> successfully with Praziquanten.
> If the specks look like tiny grains of salt, it could be white spot or Ick
> and this can be treated with salt (make certain the salt you are using is
> pure and contains no other additives)..
> For details on white spot treatment using salt please see
> http://www.goldfishparadise.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11922
> Hope this helps.


Hey,
thanks for the help but its too late anyways. he's dead. besides im
still a youth goin to school n ive been keeping fish for 6-7 yrs now.
i guess this was too sudden cos i had the same problem w/ my oranda
but now he's fine after followin advice from dr solo. ok thnx u
anyways
john