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nobody
September 22nd 04, 04:02 AM
Hi..

I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.

Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
to his size ?

Thanks for any input.

Joe

Billy
September 22nd 04, 04:09 AM
<nobody> wrote in message
...
| Hi..
|
| I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
|
| Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
| and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
| I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
| is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and


I'm more concerned with what you said about the tank, and what you
didn't say about it. It's six gallons, so your current stocking level
is close to the maximum for that size, and you say you "just
upgraded". Did you let the tank cycle before adding those fish? Did
you add them one at a time, over weeks, or put them all in at once?
What is the filtration method? Could you post the ammonia, nitrite,
and nitrate readings?
I'd say it's likely that the fish isn't eating because he is
stressed due to his environment. Rasboras aren't as hardy as a platy
or Betta, so he's just the first one to show the effects.

billy


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Sue
September 22nd 04, 04:46 AM
He's probably stressed - this is a shoaling species ( that grows past 3" )
and one on it's own will not be happy.
Try dropping in a few defrosted bloodworms. If you want to keep this fish,
your third tank needs to be over 20g.


<nobody> wrote in message ...
> Hi..
>
> I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
>
> Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
> and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
> I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
> is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
> just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
> to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
> to his size ?
>

nobody
September 23rd 04, 03:34 AM
I had the Betta and Plattys already and bought the new tank and the
Rasboras at the same time. Then I put them all in the new tank after
I got the water set up. The filtration is the bio wheel. I don't know
what ammonia, nitrite, or ntirate readings are. I haven't advanced to
that point yet. The Rasboras doesn't seem stressed and likes swimmng
around the tank...He just won't eat.




>
>I'm more concerned with what you said about the tank, and what you
>didn't say about it. It's six gallons, so your current stocking level
>is close to the maximum for that size, and you say you "just
>upgraded". Did you let the tank cycle before adding those fish? Did
>you add them one at a time, over weeks, or put them all in at once?
>What is the filtration method? Could you post the ammonia, nitrite,
>and nitrate readings?
> I'd say it's likely that the fish isn't eating because he is
>stressed due to his environment. Rasboras aren't as hardy as a platy
>or Betta, so he's just the first one to show the effects.
>
>billy
>
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nobody
September 23rd 04, 03:36 AM
I didn't read up on him before getting him and should have gotten him
a partner. Everyone in the tank gets along great and its a definite
step up from the 2 gal hex tank I had..






On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC), "Sue"
> wrote:

>He's probably stressed - this is a shoaling species ( that grows past 3" )
>and one on it's own will not be happy.
>Try dropping in a few defrosted bloodworms. If you want to keep this fish,
>your third tank needs to be over 20g.
>
>
><nobody> wrote in message ...
>> Hi..
>>
>> I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
>>
>> Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
>> and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
>> I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
>> is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
>> just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
>> to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
>> to his size ?
>>
>

Billy
September 23rd 04, 04:09 AM
<nobody> wrote in message
...
|I had the Betta and Plattys already and bought the new tank and the
| Rasboras at the same time. Then I put them all in the new tank
after
| I got the water set up. The filtration is the bio wheel. I don't
know
| what ammonia, nitrite, or ntirate readings are. I haven't advanced
to
| that point yet. The Rasboras doesn't seem stressed and likes
swimmng
| around the tank...He just won't eat.
|


Advanced? Those three reading are *basics*.

PLEASE for the sake of your fish, learn about the nitrogen cycle.
Keeping an aquarium is more than just pouring water in a bowl.
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin.html

billy


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nobody
September 23rd 04, 05:01 AM
thanks


On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:09:53 -0700, "Billy"
> wrote:

>
>
><nobody> wrote in message
...
>|I had the Betta and Plattys already and bought the new tank and the
>| Rasboras at the same time. Then I put them all in the new tank
>after
>| I got the water set up. The filtration is the bio wheel. I don't
>know
>| what ammonia, nitrite, or ntirate readings are. I haven't advanced
>to
>| that point yet. The Rasboras doesn't seem stressed and likes
>swimmng
>| around the tank...He just won't eat.
>|
>
>
>Advanced? Those three reading are *basics*.
>
>PLEASE for the sake of your fish, learn about the nitrogen cycle.
>Keeping an aquarium is more than just pouring water in a bowl.
>http://faq.thekrib.com/begin.html
>
>billy
>
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Peter Ashby
September 23rd 04, 08:15 AM
<nobody> wrote:

> I didn't read up on him before getting him and should have gotten him
> a partner. Everyone in the tank gets along great and its a definite
> step up from the 2 gal hex tank I had..

Scissortails are schooling fish, they will be unhappy by themselves. I
just bought five of them and they school very tightly, until feeding
time and then the tank boils!

BTW, what did you do with the gravel from your old tank? If it has had
nothing more than a wash in cold water it will have a good supply of
bacteria for your cycle. If you haven't already, wash it in cold water
and put it in your new tank.

Buy yourself a test kit. I like the eSha test strips, but they don't do
ammonia, so get a tube of those (quick and easy) and an ammonia kit.
When you see no ammonia and no nitrites and you can keep the nitrates
below 50ppm then, and only then, get your scissortail some friends.
Before any more fish.

Peter
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC), "Sue"
> > wrote:
>
> >He's probably stressed - this is a shoaling species ( that grows past 3" )
> >and one on it's own will not be happy.
> >Try dropping in a few defrosted bloodworms. If you want to keep this fish,
> >your third tank needs to be over 20g.
> >
> >
> ><nobody> wrote in message ...
> >> Hi..
> >>
> >> I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
> >>
> >> Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
> >> and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
> >> I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
> >> is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
> >> just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
> >> to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
> >> to his size ?
> >>
> >


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Sue
September 23rd 04, 10:04 AM
Good point!
Any mature tank decor, gravel or ideally filter media will help this new
tank.
Unfortunately this tank isn't big enough for the existing fish let alone any
additions.

>
> BTW, what did you do with the gravel from your old tank? If it has had
> nothing more than a wash in cold water it will have a good supply of
> bacteria for your cycle. If you haven't already, wash it in cold water
> and put it in your new tank.
>
> Buy yourself a test kit. I like the eSha test strips, but they don't do
> ammonia, so get a tube of those (quick and easy) and an ammonia kit.
> When you see no ammonia and no nitrites and you can keep the nitrates
> below 50ppm then, and only then, get your scissortail some friends.
> Before any more fish.
>

Billy
September 23rd 04, 12:07 PM
"Peter Ashby" > wrote in message
. ruk...
| <nobody> wrote:
|
| BTW, what did you do with the gravel from your old tank? If it has
had
| nothing more than a wash in cold water it will have a good supply
of
| bacteria for your cycle. If you haven't already, wash it in cold
water
| and put it in your new tank.
|

Washing the gravel in cold water that has not been treated to remove
chlorine will kill the bacteria.


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nobody
September 23rd 04, 02:56 PM
H



Hi Peter..

I got new gravel for the new tank. I didn't know about the old gravel
keeping bacteria. That is something good to know in the future. I
think I will buy an ammonia test kit and see what happens.

The Scissortails are neat fish and I am tempted to get one more.
However, I right at the limit for fish in this tank. I have talked to
my local fish store owner on everything I have done and she
has guided me. Its all a learning experience. Thanks for your
nice email.

Joe


On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:15:15 GMT, (Peter
Ashby) wrote:

><nobody> wrote:
>
>> I didn't read up on him before getting him and should have gotten him
>> a partner. Everyone in the tank gets along great and its a definite
>> step up from the 2 gal hex tank I had..
>
>Scissortails are schooling fish, they will be unhappy by themselves. I
>just bought five of them and they school very tightly, until feeding
>time and then the tank boils!
>
>BTW, what did you do with the gravel from your old tank? If it has had
>nothing more than a wash in cold water it will have a good supply of
>bacteria for your cycle. If you haven't already, wash it in cold water
>and put it in your new tank.
>
>Buy yourself a test kit. I like the eSha test strips, but they don't do
>ammonia, so get a tube of those (quick and easy) and an ammonia kit.
>When you see no ammonia and no nitrites and you can keep the nitrates
>below 50ppm then, and only then, get your scissortail some friends.
>Before any more fish.
>
>Peter
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC), "Sue"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >He's probably stressed - this is a shoaling species ( that grows past 3" )
>> >and one on it's own will not be happy.
>> >Try dropping in a few defrosted bloodworms. If you want to keep this fish,
>> >your third tank needs to be over 20g.
>> >
>> >
>> ><nobody> wrote in message ...
>> >> Hi..
>> >>
>> >> I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
>> >>
>> >> Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
>> >> and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
>> >> I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
>> >> is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
>> >> just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
>> >> to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
>> >> to his size ?
>> >>
>> >

Peter Ashby
September 23rd 04, 11:37 PM
<nobody> wrote:

> H
>
>
>
> Hi Peter..
>
> I got new gravel for the new tank. I didn't know about the old gravel
> keeping bacteria. That is something good to know in the future. I
> think I will buy an ammonia test kit and see what happens.

So what is wrong with dumping at least a handful of the old stuff in the
new tank?

> The Scissortails are neat fish and I am tempted to get one more.
> However, I right at the limit for fish in this tank. I have talked to
> my local fish store owner on everything I have done and she
> has guided me. Its all a learning experience. Thanks for your
> nice email.

Some lfs will give good advice, some won't. I wouldn't trust a shop that
told you a single scissortail would be fine. If you won't have room for
companions the best thing would be to return it to the shop.

Peter

> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:15:15 GMT, (Peter
> Ashby) wrote:
>
> ><nobody> wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't read up on him before getting him and should have gotten him
> >> a partner. Everyone in the tank gets along great and its a definite
> >> step up from the 2 gal hex tank I had..
> >
> >Scissortails are schooling fish, they will be unhappy by themselves. I
> >just bought five of them and they school very tightly, until feeding
> >time and then the tank boils!
> >
> >BTW, what did you do with the gravel from your old tank? If it has had
> >nothing more than a wash in cold water it will have a good supply of
> >bacteria for your cycle. If you haven't already, wash it in cold water
> >and put it in your new tank.
> >
> >Buy yourself a test kit. I like the eSha test strips, but they don't do
> >ammonia, so get a tube of those (quick and easy) and an ammonia kit.
> >When you see no ammonia and no nitrites and you can keep the nitrates
> >below 50ppm then, and only then, get your scissortail some friends.
> >Before any more fish.
> >
> >Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC), "Sue"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >He's probably stressed - this is a shoaling species ( that grows past 3" )
> >> >and one on it's own will not be happy.
> >> >Try dropping in a few defrosted bloodworms. If you want to keep this fish,
> >> >your third tank needs to be over 20g.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><nobody> wrote in message
> >> ... > Hi..
> >> >>
> >> >> I am a newbie when it comes to having fish so bare with me.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just upgraded to my second tank, a 6 gal, have a Betta, 2 Plattys,
> >> >> and a very small (1 inch) Rasboras Scissortail. The Scissortail
> >> >> I have only had for a few days. My problem is, he won't eat. He
> >> >> is very small, and I tried crumbling up the flakes really good and
> >> >> just putting a whole bunch in the area that he is in. He never seems
> >> >> to go for the food at all. Should I be feeding him something else due
> >> >> to his size ?
> >> >>
> >> >


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