Angel breeding...never successful

[Timothy Chu]

Hi all,

I'm posting this on behalf of my pair of angels, who have spawned
probably around 9 times now, never yielding a batch of fry that live
past the wriggler stage.

1st time: parents eat fry. That's to be expected.
2nd time: leave parents in, fry get to be wriggling, with some
experiencing bursts of free-swimming in the water. The next day, all
fry are gone
3rd time: figure I ought to take the parents out this time. Wait
until they're starting to freely swim, then remove parents. By the
next morning, white corpses dot the graveless bottom.
4th time: do same thing, but add meth blue. Babies still die.
5th time: maybe babies dying b/c they're settling on the bottom too
early. Need parents to keep them off bottom, so I leave parents in
again. They still eat babies.
6th time: removed parents, and also java moss, which accumulated
debris that could've lead to increaced bacteria content in tank.
Babies still die
etc.

So a couple days ago, the babies started wriggling, I moved the
parents out, and dropped about 20 drops of meth blue in the 30 gallon.
By this morning, there were only two babies that were still alive,
but just barely.

What else can I try? Increase the concentration of the meth blue? (I
tried about 1 drop per gallon previously--still no luck) Add the meth
blue at the egg stage, even though few (about 2 or 3) of the eggs
actually succumb to fungus? Start feeding them (they're not free
swimming, so I figured they wouldn't be able to eat yet)?

Any advice would be good. At least to make them live past the first
week.

A few years ago, I was able to raise a single baby to about a month
old, but alas, that one died as well.

(emails won't work--pls post :) )
<tim><

[McEve]

"Timothy Chu" > wrote in message
...
>
> What else can I try? Increase the concentration of the meth blue? (I
> tried about 1 drop per gallon previously--still no luck) Add the meth
> blue at the egg stage, even though few (about 2 or 3) of the eggs
> actually succumb to fungus? Start feeding them (they're not free
> swimming, so I figured they wouldn't be able to eat yet)?
>
> Any advice would be good. At least to make them live past the first
> week.
>
> A few years ago, I was able to raise a single baby to about a month
> old, but alas, that one died as well.
>

I've never had the fortune of getting my Angels to spawn, so I can't help
you with personal experience. However, this looks like a good site:
http://www.solodvds.com/breeding_angel_fish.asp

Hopefully this will be useful?

[jk]

"Timothy Chu" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm posting this on behalf of my pair of angels, who have spawned
> probably around 9 times now, never yielding a batch of fry that live
> past the wriggler stage.
>
> 1st time: parents eat fry. That's to be expected.
> 2nd time: leave parents in, fry get to be wriggling, with some
> experiencing bursts of free-swimming in the water. The next day, all
> fry are gone
> 3rd time: figure I ought to take the parents out this time. Wait
> until they're starting to freely swim, then remove parents. By the
> next morning, white corpses dot the graveless bottom.
> 4th time: do same thing, but add meth blue. Babies still die.
> 5th time: maybe babies dying b/c they're settling on the bottom too
> early. Need parents to keep them off bottom, so I leave parents in
> again. They still eat babies.
> 6th time: removed parents, and also java moss, which accumulated
> debris that could've lead to increaced bacteria content in tank.
> Babies still die
> etc.
>
> So a couple days ago, the babies started wriggling, I moved the
> parents out, and dropped about 20 drops of meth blue in the 30 gallon.
> By this morning, there were only two babies that were still alive,
> but just barely.
>

Maybe too much chemicals. Clean the entire tank and start from scratch.
Try removing some when they start swimming to a floating trap.

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

[Timothy Chu]

I'll give that a go. Thanks. (thx to the other poster for sending the link)

<tim><

"jk" > wrote in message >...
> "Timothy Chu" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm posting this on behalf of my pair of angels, who have spawned
> > probably around 9 times now, never yielding a batch of fry that live
> > past the wriggler stage.
> >
> > 1st time: parents eat fry. That's to be expected.
> > 2nd time: leave parents in, fry get to be wriggling, with some
> > experiencing bursts of free-swimming in the water. The next day, all
> > fry are gone
> > 3rd time: figure I ought to take the parents out this time. Wait
> > until they're starting to freely swim, then remove parents. By the
> > next morning, white corpses dot the graveless bottom.
> > 4th time: do same thing, but add meth blue. Babies still die.
> > 5th time: maybe babies dying b/c they're settling on the bottom too
> > early. Need parents to keep them off bottom, so I leave parents in
> > again. They still eat babies.
> > 6th time: removed parents, and also java moss, which accumulated
> > debris that could've lead to increaced bacteria content in tank.
> > Babies still die
> > etc.
> >
> > So a couple days ago, the babies started wriggling, I moved the
> > parents out, and dropped about 20 drops of meth blue in the 30 gallon.
> > By this morning, there were only two babies that were still alive,
> > but just barely.
> >
>
> Maybe too much chemicals. Clean the entire tank and start from scratch.
> Try removing some when they start swimming to a floating trap.