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Ka30P
September 23rd 04, 05:50 PM
I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
rather than newts and salamanders.
And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs that
are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are more
woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
suburbs that I think are more common in the West.

So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts or
salamanders showing up in your pond?


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Cheryl
September 23rd 04, 06:03 PM
"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
> keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
> rather than newts and salamanders.
> And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
> that
> are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
> more
> woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
> suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>
> So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
> or
> salamanders showing up in your pond?
>
>
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html


I live in England and this year we had a total of 7 newts in the pond!

Benign Vanilla
September 23rd 04, 07:31 PM
"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
> keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
> rather than newts and salamanders.
> And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
that
> are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
more
> woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
> suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>
> So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
or
> salamanders showing up in your pond?

Numerous frog varieties, and some toads. One snake. Many insects. no newts
or salamanders.

BV.

Lostin1999
September 23rd 04, 07:34 PM
"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
> keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
> rather than newts and salamanders.
> And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
that
> are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
more
> woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
> suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>
> So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
or
> salamanders showing up in your pond?
>
>
none actually seen in the pond, but had a few newts in the garden this
year..

SE UK ponder..

Lost

Bonnie
September 23rd 04, 08:04 PM
Benign Vanilla wrote:
> "Ka30P" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
>>keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
>>rather than newts and salamanders.
>>And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
>
> that
>
>>are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
>
> more
>
>>woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
>>suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>>
>>So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
>
> or
>
>>salamanders showing up in your pond?
>
>
> Numerous frog varieties, and some toads. One snake. Many insects. no newts
> or salamanders.
>
> BV.
>
>



--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Bonnie
September 23rd 04, 08:07 PM
Benign Vanilla wrote:
> "Ka30P" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
>>keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
>>rather than newts and salamanders.
>>And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
>
> that
>
>>are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
>
> more
>
>>woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
>>suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>>
>>So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
>
> or
>
>>salamanders showing up in your pond?
>
>
> Numerous frog varieties, and some toads. One snake. Many insects. no newts
> or salamanders.
>
> BV.
>
>

I can say almost the same for visitor here, plus one spotted
turtle. I must say that my land was a pasture for many,
many years before our house was built.

--
Bonnie
NJ

Cheryl
September 23rd 04, 08:55 PM
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ka30P" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm just guessing but I'm assuming that a garden pond
>> keeper is more likely to find frogs and toads in the pond
>> rather than newts and salamanders.
>> And I'm thinking that newts and salamanders are more prevalent in suburbs
>> that
>> are more woodland in feel, where by design or happy accident, there are
>> more
>> woods, ferns, foresty areas than your more bulldoze it down and build it
>> suburbs that I think are more common in the West.
>>
>> So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found
>> newts or
>> salamanders showing up in your pond?
>>
>>
>> kathy :-)
>> algae primer
>> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html
>
>
> I live in England and this year we had a total of 7 newts in the pond!
>
>
oh yes I forgot to mention the water snake too!

Ka30P
September 23rd 04, 09:11 PM
Cheryl wrote >>I live in England and this year we had a total of 7 newts in the
pond!
<<

Can you tell me a bit about them, what you observed, did they breed, did you
notice what they ate, etc.
thanks!
kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Derek Broughton
September 24th 04, 01:27 AM
Cheryl wrote:

>> I live in England and this year we had a total of 7 newts in the pond!

I haven't seen a newt, except in an aquarium store, since I left England.
Definitely never in my pond (which was fairly rural, but agricultural - no
trees to speak of - when we moved in, our property had ONE tree on an acre,
ot was much better when we left, but not by any stretch woodland). I had
lots of Green frogs, American toads and some tree frogs.

> oh yes I forgot to mention the water snake too!

Water snake? I thought the UK had exactly two varieties of snake - grass
snakes and adders (and blindworms, but they're not really snakes).
Probably just as well I didn't know better when I was a kid.
--
derek

Cheryl
September 24th 04, 08:23 AM
I first spotted a newt in our water feature. It was a tiny tub with a small
fountain that we decided to get rid of as i havent liked it since we moved
in and it was always green and smelly!
When we started clearing out the water I found the newt but was sure that
the markings were different. I was right as we kept uncovering more and more
newts 7 in total!
2 were slightly smaller so im guessing they were the offspring.
Not sure what they ate, there was no fish or anything else in the water
feature. We had hundreds of tadpoles in the tub which slowly disappeared, so
maybe they have a taste for them?
Once we had cleared the tub I moved the newts to the pond. They immediately
disappeared to the bottom of the pond and werent seen a few days later but
not since. I have large kois so not sure if they have taken a liking to newt
or not!
However saying that we replaced the decking at the top of the garden a few
months ago and when ripping it we spotted a couple of newts,scaring the life
out of my partner!

Not alot of help im sorry!

Cheryl







"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
> Cheryl wrote >>I live in England and this year we had a total of 7 newts
> in the
> pond!
> <<
>
> Can you tell me a bit about them, what you observed, did they breed, did
> you
> notice what they ate, etc.
> thanks!
> kathy :-)
> algae primer
> http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

zookeeper
September 24th 04, 08:42 PM
Oregon, USDA Zone 7
No newts or salamanders in pond. Some under pond filter in nearby shed, and
in and around wood piles or rotten floor boards in shed.
No native frogs or toads in or around pond :-( Had a bullfrog male and two
females one year, but they slowly dwindled away, which is fine by me.
Numerous garter snakes, some that like to swim along edges of pond now and
then.
West Nile Virus has now been confirmed in our neighborhood (dead birds). I
hope that as our crow and blue jay populations thin, the frog and toad
populations will increase. Maybe some of the native bird populations will
also increase.
--
zookeeper
Oregon, USDA Zone 7
3500gal pond, 13 pond piggies


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
> So a quick survey of current rec.ponders. How many of you have found newts
or
> salamanders showing up in your pond?

Ka30P
September 24th 04, 10:30 PM
zookeeper wrote >>West Nile Virus has now been confirmed in our neighborhood
(dead birds). <<

Wow! You are in Portland aren't you?


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

zookeeper
September 24th 04, 11:50 PM
"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
> zookeeper wrote >>West Nile Virus has now been confirmed in our
neighborhood
> (dead birds). <<
>
> Wow! You are in Portland aren't you?

Actually in Eugene. And the two dead birds were found less than a mile from
where we live. Although I'm not surprised that WNV is here now -- less than
a mile from Willamette and McKenzie Rivers, and lots of sloughs and gravel
pit lakes full of mosquitos. Our area is near a freeway and major shopping
center, but also bordered by some wilderness like areas with deer, raccoon,
possum, beaver, nutria, fowl, etc., as well as a huge colony of crows just a
block away.
--
Zk