How to read test kits result

[Nighthawk]

Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind of
confused.

I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told me
to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He said
when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i should stop
when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after you shake or
swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of the test water ).

As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.

Can someone shed some lights on this.

Thx in advance for any help.

[Mort]

I'm no expert, and from the sound of it, neither is the LFS owner.

In other words, I think that guy is wrong but I'm sure someone else can
verify that like boomer.

hth

~Mort

"Nighthawk" > wrote in message
news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
> Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind of
> confused.
>
> I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
> SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
me
> to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He said
> when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i should
stop
> when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after you shake or
> swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of the test
water ).
>
> As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
> test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
> ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
> portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>
> Can someone shed some lights on this.
>
> Thx in advance for any help.
>
>

[4G Mitsubishi]

i agree, the drops always turn colour on the top bit of water b4 u shake it
anway. and then changes all of the water colour when u shake it

i dont think it would even posable to have the water change colour b4 u
shake it cos it will always change colour when u shake it b4 adding the next
drop

"Mort" > wrote in message
m...
> I'm no expert, and from the sound of it, neither is the LFS owner.
>
> In other words, I think that guy is wrong but I'm sure someone else can
> verify that like boomer.
>
> hth
>
> ~Mort
>
> "Nighthawk" > wrote in message
> news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
>> Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind
>> of
>> confused.
>>
>> I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
>> SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
> me
>> to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He said
>> when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i should
> stop
>> when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after you shake or
>> swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of the test
> water ).
>>
>> As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
>> test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
>> ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
>> portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>>
>> Can someone shed some lights on this.
>>
>> Thx in advance for any help.
>>
>>
>
>

[Robert Cadieux]

The LFS is an idiot. Shake it. Their is NO WAY the chemist that designed
the test can predict how the drop is going to fall in just the right way to
react with just enough water in the test tube to react by changing colour in
only the top portion. Add one drop, shake, another, shake, etc, until the
colour changes and remains changed. And BTW, I'm a chemist so I know how
these tests work. You need a homogenous solution.

Robert


"Nighthawk" > wrote in message
news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
> Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind of
> confused.
>
> I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
> SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
me
> to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He said
> when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i should
stop
> when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after you shake or
> swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of the test
water ).
>
> As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
> test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
> ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
> portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>
> Can someone shed some lights on this.
>
> Thx in advance for any help.
>
>

[sal]

You could always "calibrate" the test yourself: get a sample of water with no Ca (i.e. RO) and add a fixed amount of Ca to it. Now test that water
using both methods (and to be "scientific", test a third "control sample" with no added calcium) and see which reads the proper amount against the
given test colour. I'd recommend using CaCl2 rather than Ca(OH)2 for this test since it's already in solution and Ca(OH)2 isn't that soluble so you'd
have to use a super tiny amount that would be hard to weigh precisely. You'll need to remember some HS stoichiometry of course! I've done this before
and it works well (haven't tried it specifically w/ Ca though). Just my 2cents



> i agree, the drops always turn colour on the top bit of water b4 u shake it
> anway. and then changes all of the water colour when u shake it
>
> i dont think it would even posable to have the water change colour b4 u
> shake it cos it will always change colour when u shake it b4 adding the next
> drop
>
> "Mort" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>I'm no expert, and from the sound of it, neither is the LFS owner.
>>
>>In other words, I think that guy is wrong but I'm sure someone else can
>>verify that like boomer.
>>
>>hth
>>
>>~Mort
>>
>>"Nighthawk" > wrote in message
>>news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
>>
>>>Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind
>>>of
>>>confused.
>>>
>>>I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
>>>SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
>>
>>me
>>
>>>to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He said
>>>when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i should
>>
>>stop
>>
>>>when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after you shake or
>>>swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of the test
>>
>>water ).
>>
>>>As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
>>>test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
>>>ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
>>>portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>>>
>>>Can someone shed some lights on this.
>>>
>>>Thx in advance for any help.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Iain]

On a slightly different subject, when comparing varying colours of the test
to a sample colour card, should you hold the test up to the card or slightly
away (if so, from what distance) and under what lighting conditions. The
instructions are never clear

Some test kits have colours that are so close between each value, that 2
people in the same room with the same test would give a different reading.

My guess is that you should hold the test directly up against the card in
neutral lighting.



"Nighthawk" > wrote in message
news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
> Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind of
> confused.
>
> I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
> SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
> me to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He
> said when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i
> should stop when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after
> you shake or swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of
> the test water ).
>
> As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
> test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
> ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
> portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>
> Can someone shed some lights on this.
>
> Thx in advance for any help.
>

[Marc Levenson]

Try to do your testing during the daytime, and view your
results under indirect sunlight. Or buy 6500K bulbs for
your kitchen and look at your kits under that lighting.

Marc


Iain wrote:

> On a slightly different subject, when comparing varying colours of the test
> to a sample colour card, should you hold the test up to the card or slightly
> away (if so, from what distance) and under what lighting conditions. The
> instructions are never clear
>
> Some test kits have colours that are so close between each value, that 2
> people in the same room with the same test would give a different reading.
>
> My guess is that you should hold the test directly up against the card in
> neutral lighting.
>
>
>
> "Nighthawk" > wrote in message
> news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
>
>>Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind of
>>confused.
>>
>>I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying the
>>SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
>>me to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He
>>said when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i
>>should stop when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after
>>you shake or swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of
>>the test water ).
>>
>>As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
>>test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all Calcium
>>ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
>>portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
>>
>>Can someone shed some lights on this.
>>
>>Thx in advance for any help.
>>
>
>
>

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[CapFusion]

Or use a fine grade white paper for the background and compare the two
solution.

CapFusion,...


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
.. .
> Try to do your testing during the daytime, and view your
> results under indirect sunlight. Or buy 6500K bulbs for
> your kitchen and look at your kits under that lighting.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Iain wrote:
>
> > On a slightly different subject, when comparing varying colours of the
test
> > to a sample colour card, should you hold the test up to the card or
slightly
> > away (if so, from what distance) and under what lighting conditions.
The
> > instructions are never clear
> >
> > Some test kits have colours that are so close between each value, that
2
> > people in the same room with the same test would give a different
reading.
> >
> > My guess is that you should hold the test directly up against the card
in
> > neutral lighting.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Nighthawk" > wrote in message
> > news:1K56d.549864$gE.276499@pd7tw3no...
> >
> >>Well this might sound like a dump question from the subject but am kind
of
> >>confused.
> >>
> >>I went to the LFS to get a calcium test kit and this time i am buying
the
> >>SeaTest test kit and after a brief conversation with the owner. he told
> >>me to test it correctly and i asked him what do u mean by correctly. He
> >>said when you add the reagent drop by drop to count how many drops, i
> >>should stop when the drop hit the solution in the test tube ( not after
> >>you shake or swirl until the reagent has mixed in well with the rest of
> >>the test water ).
> >>
> >>As far as i know, if the reagent is to react with all Calcium ion in the
> >>test solution, i should be swirling and shake it to make sure all
Calcium
> >>ions are reacted to get an accurate reading rather than on at the top
> >>portion when the drop hits the water and turns blue.
> >>
> >>Can someone shed some lights on this.
> >>
> >>Thx in advance for any help.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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