Kissing fish and tank mates

[Jim85CJ]

Well, my kissing fish appear to like seafood. First, one of them ate a
Mystery snail and now my female fiddler crab showed up dead with no legs
(looks like the eye stalks were gone too). So, will they eat anything
smaller and slower than them or can I get away with a different (larger)
crab? I was also thinking about a frog...

[Peter Ashby]

Jim85CJ > wrote:

> Well, my kissing fish appear to like seafood. First, one of them ate a
> Mystery snail and now my female fiddler crab showed up dead with no legs
> (looks like the eye stalks were gone too). So, will they eat anything
> smaller and slower than them or can I get away with a different (larger)
> crab? I was also thinking about a frog...

What do you mean by 'kissing fish'? A kissing gourami, Helostoma
teminckii:
<http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temmin
ckii>
Which is a herbivore

If I put 'kissing' into the common name field of www.fishbase.org I get
a few more. Most likely would seem to be this one:

<http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Semaprochi
lodus&speciesname=insignis>

Unless you can ID your fish a bit better it is hard to give you advice,
I doubt it is a Gourami.

Peter
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[Jim85CJ]

Looks like a "kissing gourami, Helostoma teminckii"... maybe it wasn't
one of them that ate the snail... I didn't witness the actual
killings... my tank has:
(4) kissing gourami
(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temminckii)
(2) blue gourami
(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Trichogaster+trichopterus)
(1) Dwarf Gourami
(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Colisa+lalia)
(2) silver dollars
(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Metynnis+hypsauchen)
(5) Zebra Danios
http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Danio+rerio
(1) guppy
(1) mystery snail
(1) male fiddler crab -- The crab stays on top of a log so he can sit
out of the water.



Peter Ashby wrote:

> Jim85CJ > wrote:
>
>
>>Well, my kissing fish appear to like seafood. First, one of them ate a
>>Mystery snail and now my female fiddler crab showed up dead with no legs
>>(looks like the eye stalks were gone too). So, will they eat anything
>>smaller and slower than them or can I get away with a different (larger)
>>crab? I was also thinking about a frog...
>
>
> What do you mean by 'kissing fish'? A kissing gourami, Helostoma
> teminckii:
> <http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temmin
> ckii>
> Which is a herbivore
>
> If I put 'kissing' into the common name field of www.fishbase.org I get
> a few more. Most likely would seem to be this one:
>
> <http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Semaprochi
> lodus&speciesname=insignis>
>
> Unless you can ID your fish a bit better it is hard to give you advice,
> I doubt it is a Gourami.
>
> Peter

[Peter Ashby]

Jim85CJ > wrote:

> Looks like a "kissing gourami, Helostoma teminckii"... maybe it wasn't one
> of them that ate the snail... I didn't witness the actual killings... my
> tank has: (4) kissing gourami
> (http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temminck
> ii) (2) blue gourami
> (http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Trichogaster+trich
> opterus) (1) Dwarf Gourami
> (http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Colisa+lalia) (2)
> silver dollars
> (http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Metynnis+hypsauche
> n) (5) Zebra Danios
> http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Danio+rerio (1)
> guppy (1) mystery snail (1) male fiddler crab -- The crab stays on top of
> a log so he can sit out of the water.

Ok then, I would finger the blue gourami as the most likely culprit,
they are nasty pieces of work. Might have been the Dwarf gourami, they
seem to have variable personalities.

I haven't kept crabs, but are you sure it is happy in freshwater? those
fish certainly aren't happy in brackish conditions.

Peter

>
> Peter Ashby wrote:
>
> > Jim85CJ > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, my kissing fish appear to like seafood. First, one of them ate a
> >>Mystery snail and now my female fiddler crab showed up dead with no legs
> >>(looks like the eye stalks were gone too). So, will they eat anything
> >>smaller and slower than them or can I get away with a different (larger)
> >>crab? I was also thinking about a frog...
> >
> >
> > What do you mean by 'kissing fish'? A kissing gourami, Helostoma
> > teminckii:
> > <http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temmin
> > ckii>
> > Which is a herbivore
> >
> > If I put 'kissing' into the common name field of www.fishbase.org I get
> > a few more. Most likely would seem to be this one:
> >
> > <http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Semaprochi
> > lodus&speciesname=insignis>
> >
> > Unless you can ID your fish a bit better it is hard to give you advice,
> > I doubt it is a Gourami.
> >
> > Peter


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[Jim85CJ]

"I haven't kept crabs, but are you sure it is happy in freshwater? those
fish certainly aren't happy in brackish conditions."
Well, I've read so many conflicting things on this that I decided to
listen to my LFS (non-chain)... they keep them in fresh water and claim
they are fine in it. The male seems "happy"... the female seems dead...

With this mix of fish that I have, what plants can I use? The ones I
have in my tank are slowly being eaten...


Peter Ashby wrote:

> Jim85CJ > wrote:
>
>
>>Looks like a "kissing gourami, Helostoma teminckii"... maybe it wasn't one
>>of them that ate the snail... I didn't witness the actual killings... my
>>tank has: (4) kissing gourami
>>(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temminck
>>ii) (2) blue gourami
>>(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Trichogaster+trich
>>opterus) (1) Dwarf Gourami
>>(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Colisa+lalia) (2)
>>silver dollars
>>(http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Metynnis+hypsauche
>>n) (5) Zebra Danios
>>http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Danio+rerio (1)
>>guppy (1) mystery snail (1) male fiddler crab -- The crab stays on top of
>>a log so he can sit out of the water.
>
>
> Ok then, I would finger the blue gourami as the most likely culprit,
> they are nasty pieces of work. Might have been the Dwarf gourami, they
> seem to have variable personalities.
>
> I haven't kept crabs, but are you sure it is happy in freshwater? those
> fish certainly aren't happy in brackish conditions.
>
> Peter
>
>
>>Peter Ashby wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jim85CJ > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, my kissing fish appear to like seafood. First, one of them ate a
>>>>Mystery snail and now my female fiddler crab showed up dead with no legs
>>>>(looks like the eye stalks were gone too). So, will they eat anything
>>>>smaller and slower than them or can I get away with a different (larger)
>>>>crab? I was also thinking about a frog...
>>>
>>>
>>>What do you mean by 'kissing fish'? A kissing gourami, Helostoma
>>>teminckii:
>>><http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Helostoma+temmin
>>>ckii>
>>>Which is a herbivore
>>>
>>>If I put 'kissing' into the common name field of www.fishbase.org I get
>>>a few more. Most likely would seem to be this one:
>>>
>>><http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Semaprochi
>>>lodus&speciesname=insignis>
>>>
>>>Unless you can ID your fish a bit better it is hard to give you advice,
>>>I doubt it is a Gourami.
>>>
>>>Peter
>
>
>

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[Aquarijen]

"Jim85CJ" > wrote in message
k.net...
> "I haven't kept crabs, but are you sure it is happy in freshwater? those
> fish certainly aren't happy in brackish conditions."
> Well, I've read so many conflicting things on this that I decided to
> listen to my LFS (non-chain)... they keep them in fresh water and claim
> they are fine in it. The male seems "happy"... the female seems dead...
>
> With this mix of fish that I have, what plants can I use? The ones I have
> in my tank are slowly being eaten...
>
Java Moss and Java Fern.
-Jen