poorly fish?

[Raccoon]

One of the new ryukin is very still and hasnt eaten yet. he seems to swim
fine, but stays in same place most of the time, hasnt eatien with the others
at all and I've just noticed a small dark spot on his tail and one on his
front fin. H'es a read and white and not sure if this coloration is just
colouring or if it is a disease?

Cant seem to find anything on it any recommendations, he doeasnt look to
active at all tho his gills are healthy bright red.

Tess

[Raccoon]

By the way, sorry just looked at "puregold website" There are no snails at
all in the tank, nor were there in the shop tank. my plants are all
plastic. not even sure if its actual black sposts just two dark marks on the
tip of the fins.

Will adding a little salt to the tank soothe him? and will it pass to my
other fish?

"Raccoon" > wrote in message
...
> One of the new ryukin is very still and hasnt eaten yet. he seems to swim
> fine, but stays in same place most of the time, hasnt eatien with the
others
> at all and I've just noticed a small dark spot on his tail and one on his
> front fin. H'es a read and white and not sure if this coloration is just
> colouring or if it is a disease?
>
> Cant seem to find anything on it any recommendations, he doeasnt look to
> active at all tho his gills are healthy bright red.
>
> Tess
>
>

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dark spots could be recovering ammonia burns. dont worry. and dont worry about not
eating for now... keep the water clean and yes, add a bit of salt.
Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be increased to 3 teas. per 5 over a
few days. Use rock salt with no additives.

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>By the way, sorry just looked at "puregold website" There are no snails at
>all in the tank, nor were there in the shop tank. my plants are all
>plastic. not even sure if its actual black sposts just two dark marks on the
>tip of the fins.
>
>Will adding a little salt to the tank soothe him? and will it pass to my
>other fish?
>
>"Raccoon" > wrote in message
...
>> One of the new ryukin is very still and hasnt eaten yet. he seems to swim
>> fine, but stays in same place most of the time, hasnt eatien with the
>others
>> at all and I've just noticed a small dark spot on his tail and one on his
>> front fin. H'es a read and white and not sure if this coloration is just
>> colouring or if it is a disease?
>>
>> Cant seem to find anything on it any recommendations, he doeasnt look to
>> active at all tho his gills are healthy bright red.
>>
>> Tess
>>
>>
>



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[Raccoon]

Thanks Ingrid, what would I do without you. He's just awfully still, he was
introduced to the tank yesterday, I stupidly didn't quarantine them, but
Twix is fine and is great pals with the others already. If Rudolph stays
this still I'll quarantine him and keep a close eye on him.

I'll add salt as you say :) I have natural sea salt.
Tess

> wrote in message
...
> dark spots could be recovering ammonia burns. dont worry. and dont worry
about not
> eating for now... keep the water clean and yes, add a bit of salt.
> Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be increased to 3 teas. per
5 over a
> few days. Use rock salt with no additives.
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >By the way, sorry just looked at "puregold website" There are no snails
at
> >all in the tank, nor were there in the shop tank. my plants are all
> >plastic. not even sure if its actual black sposts just two dark marks on
the
> >tip of the fins.
> >
> >Will adding a little salt to the tank soothe him? and will it pass to my
> >other fish?
> >
> >"Raccoon" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> One of the new ryukin is very still and hasnt eaten yet. he seems to
swim
> >> fine, but stays in same place most of the time, hasnt eatien with the
> >others
> >> at all and I've just noticed a small dark spot on his tail and one on
his
> >> front fin. H'es a read and white and not sure if this coloration is
just
> >> colouring or if it is a disease?
> >>
> >> Cant seem to find anything on it any recommendations, he doeasnt look
to
> >> active at all tho his gills are healthy bright red.
> >>
> >> Tess
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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dont use sea salt. use plain old crystal salt. like the solar salt used in water
softeners... or even table salt with no additives, altho need to dissolve first and
add carefully so dont burn gills.
Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>Thanks Ingrid, what would I do without you. He's just awfully still, he was
>introduced to the tank yesterday, I stupidly didn't quarantine them, but
>Twix is fine and is great pals with the others already. If Rudolph stays
>this still I'll quarantine him and keep a close eye on him.
>
>I'll add salt as you say :) I have natural sea salt.
>Tess


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[Raccoon]

Howcome table salt? I thought that was the wrong kind ....I added sea salt
before i read your message...will it harm my fish? should i change the
water?

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> dont use sea salt. use plain old crystal salt. like the solar salt used
in water
> softeners... or even table salt with no additives, altho need to dissolve
first and
> add carefully so dont burn gills.
> Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >Thanks Ingrid, what would I do without you. He's just awfully still, he
was
> >introduced to the tank yesterday, I stupidly didn't quarantine them, but
> >Twix is fine and is great pals with the others already. If Rudolph stays
> >this still I'll quarantine him and keep a close eye on him.
> >
> >I'll add salt as you say :) I have natural sea salt.
> >Tess
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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dilute it out with water changes. table salt is fine as long as it has no additives
and is dissolved first and added carefully so dont burn the gills.
sea salt is for salt water fish. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>Howcome table salt? I thought that was the wrong kind ....I added sea salt
>before i read your message...will it harm my fish? should i change the
>water?


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[Raccoon]

I diluted salt in a glass of water which in turn I mixed into a 10 litre
bucket of water during a 30% water change so salt was very dilute.

I'll dilute out the sea salt next time I do a water change (which is
frequent0 and get a good table salt w/o additives.

I was worried that sea salt would harm them after what you said, is it okay
to leave it until next water change? or is there a risk?

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> dilute it out with water changes. table salt is fine as long as it has no
additives
> and is dissolved first and added carefully so dont burn the gills.
> sea salt is for salt water fish. Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >Howcome table salt? I thought that was the wrong kind ....I added sea
salt
> >before i read your message...will it harm my fish? should i change the
> >water?
>
>
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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I dont really know. Just that it isnt recommended. good idea to do some water
changes anyway. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>I diluted salt in a glass of water which in turn I mixed into a 10 litre
>bucket of water during a 30% water change so salt was very dilute.
>
>I'll dilute out the sea salt next time I do a water change (which is
>frequent0 and get a good table salt w/o additives.
>
>I was worried that sea salt would harm them after what you said, is it okay
>to leave it until next water change? or is there a risk?
>
>Tess


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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
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endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

Ok will stick to table salt in future, and will check no additives.

Rudolf is much more active today, he's eaten for the first time and is
swimming among the other fish instead of hiding away. However his poop is a
bit white and stringy looking, and he keeps settling on the gravel, dead
still for about a minute at a time, then perks up and carries on playing.

Will look at your website for more info, but white stringy poop is not good
right?

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> I dont really know. Just that it isnt recommended. good idea to do some
water
> changes anyway. Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >I diluted salt in a glass of water which in turn I mixed into a 10 litre
> >bucket of water during a 30% water change so salt was very dilute.
> >
> >I'll dilute out the sea salt next time I do a water change (which is
> >frequent0 and get a good table salt w/o additives.
> >
> >I was worried that sea salt would harm them after what you said, is it
okay
> >to leave it until next water change? or is there a risk?
> >
> >Tess
>
>
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> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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right. white stringy is not good. but if he is doing better, maybe that will change
too.
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/technique.html#JoAnns_diagnosis_by_poop
Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:
>Ok will stick to table salt in future, and will check no additives.
>
>Rudolf is much more active today, he's eaten for the first time and is
>swimming among the other fish instead of hiding away. However his poop is a
>bit white and stringy looking, and he keeps settling on the gravel, dead
>still for about a minute at a time, then perks up and carries on playing.
>
>Will look at your website for more info, but white stringy poop is not good
>right?
>
>Tess


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