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richard reynolds
July 21st 03, 05:35 AM
> I had a guy from our club tell me he needed a big sump asap.
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/80g_sump.html
> Marc :)

droooling much!!!

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Steve \Srfmon\
July 21st 03, 08:42 AM
I dub you - The DIY Acrylic master!
Awesome job Marc.

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> I had a guy from our club tell me he needed a big sump asap.
>
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/80g_sump.html
>
> Marc :)
>
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ReeFeR_MaN
July 21st 03, 10:36 AM
Jeez, thats the best sump I have EVER seen.





"Steve "Srfmon"" > wrote in message
...
> I dub you - The DIY Acrylic master!
> Awesome job Marc.
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I had a guy from our club tell me he needed a big sump asap.
> >
> > http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/80g_sump.html
> >
> > Marc :)
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

david
July 21st 03, 12:09 PM
i just checked the price of 6mm acrylite sheet here 86 pounds sterling plus
tax at 17.5 %
= 101 pounds sterling so how much material did you use ????


"david" > wrote in message
...
> spill it Marc how long did it take to plan and build. that looks like you
> SHOULD give up the day job
> how soon before we can order them here it the uk
>
> Regards David
> "ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jeez, thats the best sump I have EVER seen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve "Srfmon"" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I dub you - The DIY Acrylic master!
> > > Awesome job Marc.
> > >
> > > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I had a guy from our club tell me he needed a big sump asap.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/80g_sump.html
> > > >
> > > > Marc :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Personal Page:
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

plaguebeast
July 21st 03, 02:51 PM
"david" > wrote in message
...
> i just checked the price of 6mm acrylite sheet here 86 pounds sterling
plus
> tax at 17.5 %
> = 101 pounds sterling so how much material did you use ????

you are taxed at 17.5% on purchases ? What is your govenment doing with
your money ?

Sorry for the OT response.

Pszemol
July 21st 03, 03:38 PM
"plaguebeast" > wrote in message ...
>
> "david" > wrote in message
> ...
> > i just checked the price of 6mm acrylite sheet here 86 pounds sterling
> plus
> > tax at 17.5 %
> > = 101 pounds sterling so how much material did you use ????
>
> you are taxed at 17.5% on purchases ? What is your govenment doing with
> your money ?

It is just Europe... Let me tell you - in Poland sales tax (VAT) is 22%.
So David should be vary happy with his 17.5% :-)

Marc Levenson
July 21st 03, 05:01 PM
Thanks guys! It was a difficult one to build, because of its size.

It cost about $130 for 1/4" acrylic (more than one sheet, but less than two
sheets), plus 8.25% sales tax.

Wednesday: I drew up the design at my desk (paper and ruler.... no computer
stuff for me! hehehe), and then another paper to figure out how many pieces I
could get from a 4' x 8' sheet. Once I had that figured out, I called up Regal
Plastics and placed my order. I like to get them to cut it down to bite sized
pieces for me, which are easier to load in my vehicle and work with at the
house.

Thursday: I picked up the material and started assembly, but I used a new
method of gluing (for me anyway) and it took longer than I was used to.

Friday: Filled it up with water to test it for leaks and to look for potential
trouble spots - too much expansion in an area could indicate failure later on.
Left it full of water for 12 hours or longer. Saw the refugium section bowing
too much, and that evening I drained it and left it to dry out.

Saturday: I struggled mentally how I would brace the refugium without making it
unsightly, plus it needed to be easy to clean with a magnet. Finally I decided
to add a horizontal brace across the inner front face and a cross brace at the
center of that section. Added another horizontal brace across the refugium wall
(with the teeth) as well, and let it cure overnight. Built a far easier sump
that same evening. Pictures to follow soon.<smile>

Sunday: Filled it up with water again, and verified that my solutions worked,
and took a dozen pictures. Danny picked it up a couple of hours later, and was
very happy. Here's a quote from the club message board that he posted: "I want
to thank Marc for helping me on this fuge. He did an outstanding job designing
it and making it. All I can say is this fuge rocks. If you need a fuge and dont
have the tools to make one I would recommend him over any of the big
manufacturers that mass produce fuges. Not only is he cheaper but he will build
to spec. High quality all away around. He is easy to talk to, and very helpful."

I'm glad he's happy! :)

Marc


david wrote:

> spill it Marc how long did it take to plan and build. that looks like you
> SHOULD give up the day job
> how soon before we can order them here it the uk
>

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Marc Levenson
July 21st 03, 09:11 PM
I replied in email since I received your message there earlier.

Marc


Matt wrote:

> I have a question for you about the materials. In my area I have 2 glass
> places that will sell me materials. Here is what I am wondering. What
> exactly am I asking for here? Everyone says not plexi. because it yellows
> and breaks down overtime. OK, well according to the people I talk to Plexi
> is acrylite just manufactured by a different company. They can get me
> Plexi, Acrylite, and acrylic. Apparently they say they are all the same
> just manufactured by different companies. There is a 4th product i learned
> of today. It is an acrylic product made from a "generic composite" they
> say. Cost is about 1/3 the price of the others. Also is $64 for a 4X8
> sheet of 1/8 a good price (i know we are not in the same area : ohio here).
> I am looking to build an overflow and maybe a sump or two for my systems.
>
> Thanks
> Matt
>

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Matt
July 21st 03, 09:49 PM
I have a question for you about the materials. In my area I have 2 glass
places that will sell me materials. Here is what I am wondering. What
exactly am I asking for here? Everyone says not plexi. because it yellows
and breaks down overtime. OK, well according to the people I talk to Plexi
is acrylite just manufactured by a different company. They can get me
Plexi, Acrylite, and acrylic. Apparently they say they are all the same
just manufactured by different companies. There is a 4th product i learned
of today. It is an acrylic product made from a "generic composite" they
say. Cost is about 1/3 the price of the others. Also is $64 for a 4X8
sheet of 1/8 a good price (i know we are not in the same area : ohio here).
I am looking to build an overflow and maybe a sump or two for my systems.

Thanks
Matt

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks guys! It was a difficult one to build, because of its size.
>
> It cost about $130 for 1/4" acrylic (more than one sheet, but less than
two
> sheets), plus 8.25% sales tax.
>
> Wednesday: I drew up the design at my desk (paper and ruler.... no
computer
> stuff for me! hehehe), and then another paper to figure out how many
pieces I
> could get from a 4' x 8' sheet. Once I had that figured out, I called up
Regal
> Plastics and placed my order. I like to get them to cut it down to bite
sized
> pieces for me, which are easier to load in my vehicle and work with at the
> house.
>
> Thursday: I picked up the material and started assembly, but I used a new
> method of gluing (for me anyway) and it took longer than I was used to.
>
> Friday: Filled it up with water to test it for leaks and to look for
potential
> trouble spots - too much expansion in an area could indicate failure later
on.
> Left it full of water for 12 hours or longer. Saw the refugium section
bowing
> too much, and that evening I drained it and left it to dry out.
>
> Saturday: I struggled mentally how I would brace the refugium without
making it
> unsightly, plus it needed to be easy to clean with a magnet. Finally I
decided
> to add a horizontal brace across the inner front face and a cross brace at
the
> center of that section. Added another horizontal brace across the
refugium wall
> (with the teeth) as well, and let it cure overnight. Built a far easier
sump
> that same evening. Pictures to follow soon.<smile>
>
> Sunday: Filled it up with water again, and verified that my solutions
worked,
> and took a dozen pictures. Danny picked it up a couple of hours later,
and was
> very happy. Here's a quote from the club message board that he posted:
"I want
> to thank Marc for helping me on this fuge. He did an outstanding job
designing
> it and making it. All I can say is this fuge rocks. If you need a fuge and
dont
> have the tools to make one I would recommend him over any of the big
> manufacturers that mass produce fuges. Not only is he cheaper but he will
build
> to spec. High quality all away around. He is easy to talk to, and very
helpful."
>
> I'm glad he's happy! :)
>
> Marc
>
>
> david wrote:
>
> > spill it Marc how long did it take to plan and build. that looks like
you
> > SHOULD give up the day job
> > how soon before we can order them here it the uk
> >
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

Dragon Slayer
July 22nd 03, 03:05 AM
did you use the homemade dovetail jig like I suggested on this one Marc?


kc

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks guys! It was a difficult one to build, because of its size.
>
> It cost about $130 for 1/4" acrylic (more than one sheet, but less than
two
> sheets), plus 8.25% sales tax.
>
> Wednesday: I drew up the design at my desk (paper and ruler.... no
computer
> stuff for me! hehehe), and then another paper to figure out how many
pieces I
> could get from a 4' x 8' sheet. Once I had that figured out, I called up
Regal
> Plastics and placed my order. I like to get them to cut it down to bite
sized
> pieces for me, which are easier to load in my vehicle and work with at the
> house.
>
> Thursday: I picked up the material and started assembly, but I used a new
> method of gluing (for me anyway) and it took longer than I was used to.
>
> Friday: Filled it up with water to test it for leaks and to look for
potential
> trouble spots - too much expansion in an area could indicate failure later
on.
> Left it full of water for 12 hours or longer. Saw the refugium section
bowing
> too much, and that evening I drained it and left it to dry out.
>
> Saturday: I struggled mentally how I would brace the refugium without
making it
> unsightly, plus it needed to be easy to clean with a magnet. Finally I
decided
> to add a horizontal brace across the inner front face and a cross brace at
the
> center of that section. Added another horizontal brace across the
refugium wall
> (with the teeth) as well, and let it cure overnight. Built a far easier
sump
> that same evening. Pictures to follow soon.<smile>
>
> Sunday: Filled it up with water again, and verified that my solutions
worked,
> and took a dozen pictures. Danny picked it up a couple of hours later,
and was
> very happy. Here's a quote from the club message board that he posted:
"I want
> to thank Marc for helping me on this fuge. He did an outstanding job
designing
> it and making it. All I can say is this fuge rocks. If you need a fuge and
dont
> have the tools to make one I would recommend him over any of the big
> manufacturers that mass produce fuges. Not only is he cheaper but he will
build
> to spec. High quality all away around. He is easy to talk to, and very
helpful."
>
> I'm glad he's happy! :)
>
> Marc
>
>
> david wrote:
>
> > spill it Marc how long did it take to plan and build. that looks like
you
> > SHOULD give up the day job
> > how soon before we can order them here it the uk
> >
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

Marc Levenson
July 22nd 03, 03:15 PM
I did make my own jig. I shopped around and had a horrible time coming up with
anything useable. Here's what I made, but on the second use I chewed up a
couple of teeth before I realized it.

http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/temp/jig.jpg
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/temp/jig2.jpg
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/temp/doublethick_jig.jpg

Marc

Dragon Slayer wrote:

> did you use the homemade dovetail jig like I suggested on this one Marc?
>
> kc
>

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:-^-Shame-^-:
July 22nd 03, 08:27 PM
Sales taxes..........

Here in Denmark its 25 %................ And we pay about 45 to 50 % in
tax.......... So stop complaining :-D

How am i ever gonna get enough money for my reef :-D.....LOL

¨


"Pszemol" > skrev i en meddelelse
...
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > "david" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > i just checked the price of 6mm acrylite sheet here 86 pounds sterling
> > plus
> > > tax at 17.5 %
> > > = 101 pounds sterling so how much material did you use ????
> >
> > you are taxed at 17.5% on purchases ? What is your govenment doing with
> > your money ?
>
> It is just Europe... Let me tell you - in Poland sales tax (VAT) is 22%.
> So David should be vary happy with his 17.5% :-)

stuart
August 1st 03, 05:58 PM
You lucky thing :)


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