Pond goldfish always hiding -- Please Help

[googlefan]

Hi,
I'm a new pond owner.
About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
the "old" guys.

It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.

Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?

Thanks in advance

Googlefan

[Oxymel of Squill]

how old is the pond? Ponds need to be a year old before introducing fish

if it's a new pond they're miserable because the water isn't old enough and
if you're dumping chemicals in to lower this and raise that then they're
living in and breathing burning acid or worse.


"googlefan" > wrote in message
m...
> Hi,
> I'm a new pond owner.
> About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
> to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
> bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
> first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
> the "old" guys.
>
> It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
> pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
> the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>
> Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Googlefan

[Don]

Whenever my fish hide it's because some predator has been after them.

--
Don
"googlefan" > wrote in message
m...
> Hi,
> I'm a new pond owner.
> About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
> to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
> bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
> first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
> the "old" guys.
>
> It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
> pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
> the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>
> Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Googlefan

[2pods]

"Oxymel of Squill" > wrote in message
...
> how old is the pond? Ponds need to be a year old before introducing fish

What ?????

[Nedra]

You really need to ignore Oxymel. He/she posts this every time someone
has a new pond - - <sigh>

Nedra


"2pods" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Oxymel of Squill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > how old is the pond? Ponds need to be a year old before introducing fish
>
> What ?????
>
>

[W Dale]

Same here.

Don wrote:

>Whenever my fish hide it's because some predator has been after them.
>
>
>

[W Dale]

Probably because they saw something that frightened them, like a hungry
bird or other predator. I noticed below someone suggested that your
pond water need to be 1 year old before introducing fish. Well, that
may be a bit long to wait. When I first started up my pond (2 seasons
ago now) I waited 7 days before introducing gold fish from my next door
neighbors pond. He was wanting to get rid of some anyway and I was in
need of some. Anyway, the fish were fine, did not hide or show any
signs of distress. After that, I began to gradually introduce a couple
of koi at a time (once every couple of weeks or so). No problems. Just
give them a little time. They will come around.
Happy Ponding!
W. Dale

googlefan wrote:

>Hi,
>I'm a new pond owner.
>About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
>to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
>bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
>first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
>the "old" guys.
>
>It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
>pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
>the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>
>Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Googlefan
>
>

[2pods]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> You really need to ignore Oxymel. He/she posts this every time someone
> has a new pond - - <sigh>
>
> Nedra
>

I see, a comedian ?

Peter

[googlefan]

W Dale > wrote in message >...
> Probably because they saw something that frightened them, like a hungry
> bird or other predator. I noticed below someone suggested that your
> pond water need to be 1 year old before introducing fish. Well, that
> may be a bit long to wait. When I first started up my pond (2 seasons
> ago now) I waited 7 days before introducing gold fish from my next door
> neighbors pond. He was wanting to get rid of some anyway and I was in
> need of some. Anyway, the fish were fine, did not hide or show any
> signs of distress. After that, I began to gradually introduce a couple
> of koi at a time (once every couple of weeks or so). No problems. Just
> give them a little time. They will come around.
> Happy Ponding!
> W. Dale
>
> googlefan wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >I'm a new pond owner.
> >About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
> >to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
> >bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
> >first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
> >the "old" guys.
> >
> >It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
> >pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
> >the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
> >
> >Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Googlefan
> >
> >

Thanks for the advice, I guess all I have for now is wait

[San Diego Joe]

"Oxymel of Squill" wrote:

> how old is the pond? Ponds need to be a year old before introducing fish
>
> if it's a new pond they're miserable because the water isn't old enough and
> if you're dumping chemicals in to lower this and raise that then they're
> living in and breathing burning acid or worse.
>
>
> "googlefan" > wrote in message
> m...
>> Hi,
>> I'm a new pond owner.
>> About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
>> to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
>> bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
>> first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
>> the "old" guys.
>>
>> It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
>> pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
>> the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>>
>> Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Googlefan
>
>
I'd say waiting a year is serious overkill. Put some plants in wait a couple
of weeks and add fish - slowly though.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[Crashj]

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:23:09 +0100, "2pods"
> wrote:

>
>"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>> You really need to ignore Oxymel. He/she posts this every time someone
>> has a new pond - - <sigh>
>> Nedra

>I see, a comedian ?
>Peter
WARNING: POSSIBLE OFFENSIVE CONTENT FOLLOWS:
page down or not - suit yourself

























No, not a comedian. An asshole.
Q: What is the difference between an asshole and a comedian?
A: Everybody thinks they are a comedian.
--
Crashj

[Crashj]

On 10 Oct 2004 11:00:52 -0700, (googlefan)
wrote:
<>
>> >Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
<>
>Thanks for the advice, I guess all I have for now is wait
It also seems like you have plenty of fish for now. Where are you,
geographically speaking?
Good luck.
--
Crashj

[George]

"googlefan" > wrote in message
m...
>W Dale > wrote in message
>...
>> Probably because they saw something that frightened them, like a hungry
>> bird or other predator. I noticed below someone suggested that your
>> pond water need to be 1 year old before introducing fish. Well, that
>> may be a bit long to wait. When I first started up my pond (2 seasons
>> ago now) I waited 7 days before introducing gold fish from my next door
>> neighbors pond. He was wanting to get rid of some anyway and I was in
>> need of some. Anyway, the fish were fine, did not hide or show any
>> signs of distress. After that, I began to gradually introduce a couple
>> of koi at a time (once every couple of weeks or so). No problems. Just
>> give them a little time. They will come around.
>> Happy Ponding!
>> W. Dale
>>
>> googlefan wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >I'm a new pond owner.
>> >About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
>> >to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
>> >bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
>> >first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
>> >the "old" guys.
>> >
>> >It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
>> >pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
>> >the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>> >
>> >Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance
>> >
>> >Googlefan
>> >
>> >
>
> Thanks for the advice, I guess all I have for now is wait

You should also montor them daily for any changes in behavior to rule out
disease or poor water quality. You should also monitor the water quality
regularly since it is a new pond.

[2pods]

"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:23:09 +0100, "2pods"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>>> You really need to ignore Oxymel. He/she posts this every time someone
>>> has a new pond - - <sigh>
>>> Nedra
>
>>I see, a comedian ?
>>Peter
> WARNING: POSSIBLE OFFENSIVE CONTENT FOLLOWS:
> page down or not - suit yourself

lol

Peter

[googlefan]

(googlefan) wrote in message >...
> Hi,
> I'm a new pond owner.
> About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
> to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
> bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
> first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
> the "old" guys.
>
> It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
> pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
> the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>
> Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Googlefan

Hi Again,
Goldfish slowly started to come out of the hiding, I guess something
must've frightened them. Even though during the day they never show
up, in the evenings when I turn on my underwater lights, they are
coming out.

[George]

"googlefan" > wrote in message
m...
> (googlefan) wrote in message
> >...
>> Hi,
>> I'm a new pond owner.
>> About 2 weeks ago I bought 6 goldfishes and the first day they seemed
>> to be fine, but after that they always been in hiding. 3 days ago I
>> bought 5 more goldfishes and pretty much the same thing happened, at
>> first they were very active but the next day they went to hiding with
>> the "old" guys.
>>
>> It's a 160 Gallon pond with a lot's of rocks. I'm using underwater
>> pump and filter kit, which includes Biofilter. I tested the water at
>> the local Petco and it seemed to be fine.
>>
>> Any ideas why fish will be hiding all the time?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Googlefan
>
> Hi Again,
> Goldfish slowly started to come out of the hiding, I guess something
> must've frightened them. Even though during the day they never show
> up, in the evenings when I turn on my underwater lights, they are
> coming out.

You might want to consider putting netting over the pond to keep predators such
as Heron from turning your fish into lunch.

[Ka30P]

googlefan wrote > I guess something
>> must've frightened them.

Predation by birds leaves frightened fish and no evidence. You can usually tell
when a raccoon visits, they leave a mess and nosh on plants as well as fish.

Herons and kingfishers will leave little or no evidence of a visit (did have
one kingfisher leave a feather and small oil slick behind once).

Netting works. Other devices are motion activated sprinklers, electric fences
that surround the pond or lay over the edge, decoys that lay under the water's
surface.
Some folks lay a tunnel of sorts on the bottom of the pond for the fish to hide
in after the intial strike.



kathy :-)
zone 7, SE WA state