Re: Nerite snails

[Happy'Cam'per]

How long is a piece of string?
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg to
hatch?

[Wasted Nyght]

Insulting me with a nonsensical answer to my question is one thing, for
whatever reason you feel the need to waste my time by doing that. However, if
you're going to use Douglas Adams quotes in your signature, at least give the
guy some credit instead of plagerizing. Just because someone's dead a couple
years now doesn't mean you can step all over them...unless of course you're at
their gravesite, in which case YES, you could step on them. =}

So, does anyone ELSE have any useful observations about Nerite snail eggs in
their tanks?



>From: "Happy'Cam'per"
>Date: 10/14/2004 6:47 AM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>How long is a piece of string?
>--
>**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
>
>"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg to
>hatch?
>
>
>
>
>
>

[CapFusion]

Did you wakeup on the wrong side of the tank?

Maybe this will help [hopefully my head still attach] -
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MmovUv5qyS4J:waquarium.otted.hawaii .edu/M
LP/root/ms_word_doc/MarineLife/Vertebrates/StreamGoby.doc+nerite+snail+egg+h
atch&hl=en
[Watchout for URL Wrap]
Or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A22D25789
http://www.wildsingapore.com/chekjawa/text/r422.htm


CapFusion,...

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>
> Insulting me with a nonsensical answer to my question is one thing,
for
> whatever reason you feel the need to waste my time by doing that.
However, if
> you're going to use Douglas Adams quotes in your signature, at least give
the
> guy some credit instead of plagerizing. Just because someone's dead a
couple
> years now doesn't mean you can step all over them...unless of course
you're at
> their gravesite, in which case YES, you could step on them. =}
>
> So, does anyone ELSE have any useful observations about Nerite snail
eggs in
> their tanks?
>
>
>
> >From: "Happy'Cam'per"
> >Date: 10/14/2004 6:47 AM Mountain Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >How long is a piece of string?
> >--
> >**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> >
> >"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg
to
> >hatch?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Pszemol]

"CapFusion" <CapeFussion...@hotmail.., com> wrote in message ...
> Did you wakeup on the wrong side of the tank?

No, I guess he has low tolerance level for a common trolling.

[Wasted Nyght]

Hi,

I -ALWAYS- wake up on the wrong side of whatever I've passed out on. Let's
just leave it at "I'm not a morning person, EVER."

Anyway, thank you for the links. THAT was useful information. I think I may
be at a loss to breed nerites at home though, as I'm planning, for one of two
reasons; either (1) as the first link says, they need both freshwater and
sal****er to reproduce, much like an Amano shrimp (for those of you who do the
freshwater shrimp thing in addition to sal****er tanks), or (2) I may manage to
get larvae that could possibly survive, but I'll be unable to feed them
properly IF I even recognize that they've hatched. What I really need is to
find someone who's had them lay eggs and hatch in X days in a reef tank to
recount their experiences.

Thanks again!




>From: "CapFusion" CapeFussion...@hotmail..,com
>Date: 10/14/2004 2:39 PM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Did you wakeup on the wrong side of the tank?
>
>Maybe this will help [hopefully my head still attach] -
>http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MmovUv5qyS4J:waquarium.otted.hawaii .edu/M
>LP/root/ms_word_doc/MarineLife/Vertebrates/StreamGoby.doc+nerite+snail+egg+h
>atch&hl=en
>[Watchout for URL Wrap]
>Or
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?A22D25789
>http://www.wildsingapore.com/chekjawa/text/r422.htm
>
>
>CapFusion,...

[Happy'Cam'per]

Plagerizing, !!!!????? Go learn to spell first before spewing forth your
drivel :|
Jeez mate, it's as plain as day I'm using Douglas Adams, I never took any
credit for that signature. I find it appropriate therefore I use it + I love
his work, get over yourself you nitpicking theakstone*. Your question has
too many variables to be answered concisely. If you had rather explained the
process/protocol you are using perhaps you would have had more complicated
and in depth answers that you were probably expecting.

*theakstone _ some vagrant who hangs round at bus stops screaming
obscenities to passers-by.*
Put that in your Douglas pipe and puff it !
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>
> Insulting me with a nonsensical answer to my question is one thing,
for
> whatever reason you feel the need to waste my time by doing that.
However, if
> you're going to use Douglas Adams quotes in your signature, at least give
the
> guy some credit instead of plagerizing. Just because someone's dead a
couple
> years now doesn't mean you can step all over them...unless of course
you're at
> their gravesite, in which case YES, you could step on them. =}
>
> So, does anyone ELSE have any useful observations about Nerite snail
eggs in
> their tanks?
>
>
>
> >From: "Happy'Cam'per"
> >Date: 10/14/2004 6:47 AM Mountain Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >How long is a piece of string?
> >--
> >**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> >
> >"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg
to
> >hatch?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Pszemol]

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message ...
> Anyway, thank you for the links. THAT was useful information. I think I may
> be at a loss to breed nerites at home though, as I'm planning, for one of two
> reasons; either (1) as the first link says, they need both freshwater and
> sal****er to reproduce, much like an Amano shrimp (for those of you who do the
> freshwater shrimp thing in addition to sal****er tanks), or (2) I may manage to
> get larvae that could possibly survive, but I'll be unable to feed them
> properly IF I even recognize that they've hatched. What I really need is to
> find someone who's had them lay eggs and hatch in X days in a reef tank to
> recount their experiences.

I am doing a similar thing in my tank with lettuce slugs (Elysia crispata).
I purchased tree adults and in a couple of days they lay egg masses...
I noticed them last Friday and I observe the embrio development under the
toy-microscope. This is about a week now and I am curious when they hatch.
I have read on this website there are some reports on breeding them in
fishtanks so I have some hope: http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=elyscris

Good luck with your nerites.

p.s. how do you force them to stay inside the tank, underwater?
My nerites always ventures to look for the non-existing rocky shore...
I found a couple of dead ones behind my tank, completely dried out :(

[Wasted Nyght]

Mine don't seem to venture more than an inch above the waterline, but even
if they did they'd be stopped by the hood. I've had too many bad experiences
with fish and shrimp jumping in the past so I don't take chances now, and I
cover every bit that's possible. That's too bad that you've had dead ones.
Trust me, it's worth it to build a complete cover for your tank, even if it's
just by adding some discrete chicken wire. In the end it's a lot less expensive
than replacing jumpers.



>From: "Pszemol"

>p.s. how do you force them to stay inside the tank, underwater?
>My nerites always ventures to look for the non-existing rocky shore...
>I found a couple of dead ones behind my tank, completely dried out :(

[Wasted Nyght]

All right, ENOUGH already!

OBVIOUSLY the fact that I over reacted to your initial reply which was
useless and therefor just spam wasn't the classiest thing I could have done in
a public forum. I fully admit I should have just let the trolling pass by and
not waste space, as part of this message is. Hopefully now that you've called
me a nitpicker in the same reply as turning around and nitpicking my spelling
and grammar will make you feel like the bad ass I'm sure everyone who's
desperately trying not to pay this thread any attention knows you are. I will
now proceed with my horrible spelling and grammar and try to see if I can give
you some useful "process/protocol" in which to craft a suitable response. If
you don't find this useful, then "DON'T PANIC"*, you are not obligated to
continue a conversation that we both know is pointless.

Now then, my original question asked if someone could tell me how long it
takes the average nerite snail egg to hatch. By "average nerite" I mean ANY
nerite snail kept by anyone who reads this who has observed the duration it
takes their nerite's eggs to hatch, be it in any sort of aquarium setup. I'll
go a step further and confess that I'm a freshwater hobbyist with Olive and
Zebra Nerites that lay eggs in freshwater but fail to hatch. That led me to
trying to find information on breeding those types of nerites. As it turns
out, the most I've managed to find out is that some people have been able to
breed these nerite types in brackish and salt environments, thus I came here to
see what other nerite types have for a duration on their eggs hatching in the
hopes that I won't sit around for insane durations hoping eggs hatch before I
try adjusting environmental conditions and starting over again and again in
attempts to simulate a salt marsh environment as I currently believe I have to
in order for this to work.











(all of the previous garbage)

>Plagerizing, !!!!????? Go learn to spell first before spewing forth your
>drivel :|
>Jeez mate, it's as plain as day I'm using Douglas Adams, I never took any
>credit for that signature. I find it appropriate therefore I use it + I love
>his work, get over yourself you nitpicking theakstone*. Your question has
>too many variables to be answered concisely. If you had rather explained the
>process/protocol you are using perhaps you would have had more complicated
>and in depth answers that you were probably expecting.

>*theakstone _ some vagrant who hangs round at bus stops screaming
>obscenities to passers-by.*
>Put that in your Douglas pipe and puff it !
>--
>**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>
> Insulting me with a nonsensical answer to my question is one thing,
for
> whatever reason you feel the need to waste my time by doing that.
However, if
> you're going to use Douglas Adams quotes in your signature, at least give
the
> guy some credit instead of plagerizing. Just because someone's dead a
couple
> years now doesn't mean you can step all over them...unless of course
you're at
> their gravesite, in which case YES, you could step on them. =}
>
> So, does anyone ELSE have any useful observations about Nerite snail
eggs in
> their tanks?
>
>
>
> >From: "Happy'Cam'per"
> >Date: 10/14/2004 6:47 AM Mountain Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >How long is a piece of string?
> >--
> >**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> >
> >"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg
to
> >hatch?
> >
> >
> >
> >


*--Douglas Adams, R.I.P.

[Happy'Cam'per]

First off, I'm not a Troll!!!!!! and secondly I do not consider myself a
'bad ass'. Anyway, the only advice I can offer you is to look up 'breeding
freshwater shrimp' on google. Someone recently posted a process on one of
the freshwater groups. The process will be similar for the Nerite Snails.
They are born in brackish waters and eventually will make their way upstream
to fresher waters to live out their lives and then will possibly return to
Brackish waters to breed. I would say egg hatching will take place at 6-10
days max, all things being equal, like temp and light, salinity etc.

My apologies for coming across as a Troll,!
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> All right, ENOUGH already!
>
> OBVIOUSLY the fact that I over reacted to your initial reply which was
> useless and therefor just spam wasn't the classiest thing I could have
done in
> a public forum. I fully admit I should have just let the trolling pass by
and
> not waste space, as part of this message is. Hopefully now that you've
called
> me a nitpicker in the same reply as turning around and nitpicking my
spelling
> and grammar will make you feel like the bad ass I'm sure everyone who's
> desperately trying not to pay this thread any attention knows you are. I
will
> now proceed with my horrible spelling and grammar and try to see if I can
give
> you some useful "process/protocol" in which to craft a suitable response.
If
> you don't find this useful, then "DON'T PANIC"*, you are not obligated to
> continue a conversation that we both know is pointless.
>
> Now then, my original question asked if someone could tell me how long
it
> takes the average nerite snail egg to hatch. By "average nerite" I mean
ANY
> nerite snail kept by anyone who reads this who has observed the duration
it
> takes their nerite's eggs to hatch, be it in any sort of aquarium setup.
I'll
> go a step further and confess that I'm a freshwater hobbyist with Olive
and
> Zebra Nerites that lay eggs in freshwater but fail to hatch. That led me
to
> trying to find information on breeding those types of nerites. As it
turns
> out, the most I've managed to find out is that some people have been able
to
> breed these nerite types in brackish and salt environments, thus I came
here to
> see what other nerite types have for a duration on their eggs hatching in
the
> hopes that I won't sit around for insane durations hoping eggs hatch
before I
> try adjusting environmental conditions and starting over again and again
in
> attempts to simulate a salt marsh environment as I currently believe I
have to
> in order for this to work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (all of the previous garbage)
>
> >Plagerizing, !!!!????? Go learn to spell first before spewing forth your
> >drivel :|
> >Jeez mate, it's as plain as day I'm using Douglas Adams, I never took any
> >credit for that signature. I find it appropriate therefore I use it + I
love
> >his work, get over yourself you nitpicking theakstone*. Your question has
> >too many variables to be answered concisely. If you had rather explained
the
> >process/protocol you are using perhaps you would have had more
complicated
> >and in depth answers that you were probably expecting.
>
> >*theakstone _ some vagrant who hangs round at bus stops screaming
> >obscenities to passers-by.*
> >Put that in your Douglas pipe and puff it !
> >--
> >**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
>
> "Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Insulting me with a nonsensical answer to my question is one thing,
> for
> > whatever reason you feel the need to waste my time by doing that.
> However, if
> > you're going to use Douglas Adams quotes in your signature, at least
give
> the
> > guy some credit instead of plagerizing. Just because someone's dead a
> couple
> > years now doesn't mean you can step all over them...unless of course
> you're at
> > their gravesite, in which case YES, you could step on them. =}
> >
> > So, does anyone ELSE have any useful observations about Nerite snail
> eggs in
> > their tanks?
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Happy'Cam'per"
> > >Date: 10/14/2004 6:47 AM Mountain Standard Time
> > >Message-id: >
> > >
> > >How long is a piece of string?
> > >--
> > >**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> > >
> > >"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the average nerite snail egg
> to
> > >hatch?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> *--Douglas Adams, R.I.P.
>

[John]

> Anyway, the only advice I can offer you is to look up 'breeding
>freshwater shrimp' on google.

If that's all you had to offer, then why'd you say this?

>> > >How long is a piece of string?

You have no obligation to hit the reply button.
~John

[Wasted Nyght]

>Someone recently posted a process on one of
>the freshwater groups. The process will be similar for the Nerite Snails.
>They are born in brackish waters and eventually will make their way upstream
>to fresher waters to live out their lives and then will possibly return to
>Brackish waters to breed. I would say egg hatching will take place at 6-10
>days max, all things being equal, like temp and light, salinity etc.




I guess the next step is to figure out how to make an aquarium environment
simulate a freshwater stream flowing into a sal****er pool. I can't imagine
how to do that without some constant running water source. I'd say it's time
I delved into a few plumbing websites!

Thanks

[Dan Norgard]

Perhaps a smaller tank with less salt in the water? Then you could move
them to the breeding tank and back to the main tank when they've
accomplished their mission.



"Wasted Nyght" > wrote in message
...
>Someone recently posted a process on one of
>the freshwater groups. The process will be similar for the Nerite Snails.
>They are born in brackish waters and eventually will make their way
upstream
>to fresher waters to live out their lives and then will possibly return to
>Brackish waters to breed. I would say egg hatching will take place at 6-10
>days max, all things being equal, like temp and light, salinity etc.




I guess the next step is to figure out how to make an aquarium
environment
simulate a freshwater stream flowing into a sal****er pool. I can't imagine
how to do that without some constant running water source. I'd say it's
time
I delved into a few plumbing websites!

Thanks