quiet pump?

[who]

Is there such a thing??

I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office. I
find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's a
CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is far
too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to HAVE to
unplug it to tolerate being in the room!

What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
noise.

Lisa G

[Mike Ninov]

Yes there is if you are asking about external pumps. At www.marinedepot.com
they used to have Customsealife velocity T1, T2, T3, and T4. It is by far
the quietest pump I have ever used. There is a new series called Poseidon
that looks exactly the same. Besides quiet they have worked in my tank for
years with no problems. They will impart a little heat to the water because
there is no fan but in my opinion it is worth it to have a quiet pump.


"who" > wrote in message ...
> Is there such a thing??
>
> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office. I
> find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's a
> CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is far
> too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to HAVE to
> unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>
> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
> noise.
>
> Lisa G
>

[who]

I was actually looking for a submersible pump. However, I am desparate!
If I can figure out how to make an external pump work, I might be
willing to try one.

Thank you for your input.

Lisa G

Mike Ninov wrote:

> Yes there is if you are asking about external pumps. At www.marinedepot.com
> they used to have Customsealife velocity T1, T2, T3, and T4. It is by far
> the quietest pump I have ever used. There is a new series called Poseidon
> that looks exactly the same. Besides quiet they have worked in my tank for
> years with no problems. They will impart a little heat to the water because
> there is no fan but in my opinion it is worth it to have a quiet pump.
>

[Billy]

"who" > wrote in message
...
| Is there such a thing??
|


I have used RIO (bad reputation) ans MAG pumps. Neither made much
noise, and I set both right on the glass bottom of my sump.


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[Tyrone Biggums]

Try Quiet One pump from www.petwarehouse.com, I usually find them to have
great proces and a lot of stock to choose from.
"who" > wrote in message ...
> Is there such a thing??
>
> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office. I
> find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's a
> CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is far
> too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to HAVE to
> unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>
> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
> noise.
>
> Lisa G
>

[kim gross]

Since you want submersible, I would have to suggest Eheim, Not cheap
but very very good pumps and all of them that I have have been very quit.

Kim

Jensal****er Have
http:\\www.jensalt.com

who wrote:

> Is there such a thing??
>
> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office. I
> find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's a
> CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is far
> too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to HAVE to
> unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>
> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
> noise.
>
> Lisa G
>

[John]

>, I would have to suggest Eheim, Not cheap

I second the Eheim, I can barely hear it over the trickle of water from my
overflow. I was able to get one that was only used once, half price at $50.
~John

[who]

That is one that I was considering. It is nice to hear that you are
both happy with it.

Lisa G

John wrote:

>>, I would have to suggest Eheim, Not cheap
>>
>
> I second the Eheim, I can barely hear it over the trickle of water from my
> overflow. I was able to get one that was only used once, half price at $50.
> ~John
>

[who]

>
> I have used RIO (bad reputation) ans MAG pumps. Neither made much
> noise, and I set both right on the glass bottom of my sump.
>
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The original was a RIO. It was kind of loud, but didn't make me crazy.
This one is just bad!

Lisa G

[who]

>
> Put the pump in another room. My next project!
>

That was a thought too. I was considering putting it in the basement.
I didn't want to put holes in the walls or floors though. The house is
a very old farm house, with plaster walls and original oak floor.

Lisa G

[Billy]

"who" > wrote in message
...
|
| >
| > Put the pump in another room. My next project!
| >
|
| That was a thought too. I was considering putting it in the
basement.
| I didn't want to put holes in the walls or floors though. The
house is
| a very old farm house, with plaster walls and original oak floor.
|
| Lisa G
|

Putting it that far below the tank would present new problems, like
how to get the water that high. You'd be stuck with a pretty serious
pump, like an Iwaki or Little Giant, like these.
http://www.pets-warehouse.com/Vpasp/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=787




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[John Cassara]

You will need more than a Little Giant to get any kind of serious flow out
of the basement. Look into swimming pool pumps. Becareful of metal
components and sal****er.


"Billy" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "who" > wrote in message
> ...
> |
> | >
> | > Put the pump in another room. My next project!
> | >
> |
> | That was a thought too. I was considering putting it in the
> basement.
> | I didn't want to put holes in the walls or floors though. The
> house is
> | a very old farm house, with plaster walls and original oak floor.
> |
> | Lisa G
> |
>
> Putting it that far below the tank would present new problems, like
> how to get the water that high. You'd be stuck with a pretty serious
> pump, like an Iwaki or Little Giant, like these.
> http://www.pets-warehouse.com/Vpasp/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=787
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[Marc Levenson]

Lisa,

What is the noise you are dealing with? Is it really the
pump, or is it the sound of the water gurgling down the
drain of the display, or the sound of water splashing in the
sump?

If you have a noisy pump now, what is the noise you are
unable to tolerate? Is it vibration noises that the
plumbing amplify or the glass/acrylic sump amplify? If the
pump itself is vibrating, you can buy Eheim filter pads from
your LFS, and cut a piece to put under your pump to act as a
reef-safe cushion. If it is the plumbing, maybe you can
find something to cushion the spot where it touches your
stand or tank to avoid the noise.

If the innards of the pump are making noise and this is a
mechanical issue, I've used Mag pumps for years and all of
them ran silently. I even had a Mag pump externally sitting
behind my 29g on the wooden surface and didn't hear a thing.
http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html

Since my tanks are in my living room, noise was not
acceptable. Hopefully we can help you figure this out.

who wrote:

> Is there such a thing??
>
> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office. I
> find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's a
> CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is far
> too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to HAVE to
> unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>
> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
> noise.
>
> Lisa G
>

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[who]

Hi Marc-

It is a vibration type noise, but I think it is from the pump running.
No amount of padding has helped. It overwhelms the office the tank is
in, plus it can be heard a couple rooms away and is very loud in the
basement directly below the tank. There is some gurgling too. That
used to bother me, but at this point I can barely hear it over the pump!

I will look into Mag pumps also. I have heard good things about Eheim,
so I will compare the two. Thanks for your help.

Lisa

Marc Levenson wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> What is the noise you are dealing with? Is it really the pump, or is it
> the sound of the water gurgling down the drain of the display, or the
> sound of water splashing in the sump?
>
> If you have a noisy pump now, what is the noise you are unable to
> tolerate? Is it vibration noises that the plumbing amplify or the
> glass/acrylic sump amplify? If the pump itself is vibrating, you can
> buy Eheim filter pads from your LFS, and cut a piece to put under your
> pump to act as a reef-safe cushion. If it is the plumbing, maybe you
> can find something to cushion the spot where it touches your stand or
> tank to avoid the noise.
>
> If the innards of the pump are making noise and this is a mechanical
> issue, I've used Mag pumps for years and all of them ran silently. I
> even had a Mag pump externally sitting behind my 29g on the wooden
> surface and didn't hear a thing.
> http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html
>
> Since my tanks are in my living room, noise was not acceptable.
> Hopefully we can help you figure this out.
>
> who wrote:
>
>> Is there such a thing??
>>
>> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my office.
>> I find I have to unplug the one I have in order to concentrate. (It's
>> a CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace the fried RIO.) It is
>> far too easy to forget to plug it back in. Besides I don't want to
>> HAVE to unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>>
>> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor as
>> noise.
>>
>> Lisa G
>>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Lisa,

If it is a vibration issue, getting the Eheim foam padding I
described will make quite a difference. They sell it at
Petco (etc) for about $5, and you can cut it to shape. It
is about 3/4" thick open cell foam.

The next step would be to put a rubber piece in your
plumbing, from above the pump to the plumbing going up to
the tank. The rubber will prevent the pipe from amplifying
the vibration.

The gurgling can be controlled by using a "Durso" or
"Stockman" standpipe in the tank, and having the water
entering the sump pour into a tall narrow container like
similar to a vase. You could use a 20" piece of 4" PVC with
holes along the base to let water seep out, or cut the PVC
down a little shorter and let it overflow and run down the
sides quietly into the sump.

You could even have your pipe drain into one of those
rubbermaid (loaf of bread) containers, standing it up on
end. Drill some holes in the sides near the end that will
be at the base of your sump, and drill a hole the size of
your plumbing in the lid. Put this in place and the lid
will trap the sound in the container and prevent salt spray.

Marc


who wrote:
> Hi Marc-
>
> It is a vibration type noise, but I think it is from the pump running.
> No amount of padding has helped. It overwhelms the office the tank is
> in, plus it can be heard a couple rooms away and is very loud in the
> basement directly below the tank. There is some gurgling too. That
> used to bother me, but at this point I can barely hear it over the pump!
>
> I will look into Mag pumps also. I have heard good things about Eheim,
> so I will compare the two. Thanks for your help.
>
> Lisa
>
> Marc Levenson wrote:
>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> What is the noise you are dealing with? Is it really the pump, or is
>> it the sound of the water gurgling down the drain of the display, or
>> the sound of water splashing in the sump?
>>
>> If you have a noisy pump now, what is the noise you are unable to
>> tolerate? Is it vibration noises that the plumbing amplify or the
>> glass/acrylic sump amplify? If the pump itself is vibrating, you can
>> buy Eheim filter pads from your LFS, and cut a piece to put under your
>> pump to act as a reef-safe cushion. If it is the plumbing, maybe you
>> can find something to cushion the spot where it touches your stand or
>> tank to avoid the noise.
>>
>> If the innards of the pump are making noise and this is a mechanical
>> issue, I've used Mag pumps for years and all of them ran silently. I
>> even had a Mag pump externally sitting behind my 29g on the wooden
>> surface and didn't hear a thing.
>> http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html
>>
>> Since my tanks are in my living room, noise was not acceptable.
>> Hopefully we can help you figure this out.
>>
>> who wrote:
>>
>>> Is there such a thing??
>>>
>>> I need a quite pump for the sump of my 55g tank that is in my
>>> office. I find I have to unplug the one I have in order to
>>> concentrate. (It's a CAP-2200, which is all the LFS had to replace
>>> the fried RIO.) It is far too easy to forget to plug it back in.
>>> Besides I don't want to HAVE to unplug it to tolerate being in the room!
>>>
>>> What are good choices? Iwaki? Eheim? Cost is not as big a factor
>>> as noise.
>>>
>>> Lisa G
>>>
>>
>

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