Consequences in overstock

[weetat]

Hi all ,

I have 29 gallons tank with 6 gold fish.
I have read some archive posting , some ppls said that do not
overstock goldfish
tank , the maths is 1 goldfish for 10 gallons.

Maybe i know any fact or truth to back the theory ? Because in my tank
,
all the fish are ok .
Any suggestion is much appreciated

Thanks

[Geezer From The Freezer]

weetat wrote:
>
> Hi all ,
>
> I have 29 gallons tank with 6 gold fish.
> I have read some archive posting , some ppls said that do not
> overstock goldfish
> tank , the maths is 1 goldfish for 10 gallons.
>
> Maybe i know any fact or truth to back the theory ? Because in my tank
> ,
> all the fish are ok .
> Any suggestion is much appreciated
>
> Thanks

They may be visually ok, but they could be suffering due to stunting.
6 goldfish will give off a lot of ammonia, what are your nitrates?
The other question is how long they will live!

[Tom Puskar]

I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon tank
both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The 29
gallon tank has about 15 fish in the 2-4 inch range and the 100 gallon has
an equal amount in the 2-6 inch range. All the fish seem happy and are
growing. I struggled with ammonia levels for a while but now have reached
the undetectable level in both tanks. It took a while for my biofilter to
get established. I must admit that my filtration systems are also waaaay
oversized relative to normal. My nitrates are definitely a problem and I
change water about every 2 weeks. The bottom line seems to be that (fingers
crossed here) I haven't lost a single fish since I established the 29 gallon
over a year ago and the 100 gallon about 6 months ago.

Am I in for a rude awakening some day?


"weetat" > wrote in message
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> Hi all ,
>
> I have 29 gallons tank with 6 gold fish.
> I have read some archive posting , some ppls said that do not
> overstock goldfish
> tank , the maths is 1 goldfish for 10 gallons.
>
> Maybe i know any fact or truth to back the theory ? Because in my tank
> ,
> all the fish are ok .
> Any suggestion is much appreciated
>
> Thanks
>

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Tom Puskar wrote:
>
> I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon tank
> both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The 29
> gallon tank has about 15 fish in the 2-4 inch range and the 100 gallon has
> an equal amount in the 2-6 inch range. All the fish seem happy and are
> growing. I struggled with ammonia levels for a while but now have reached
> the undetectable level in both tanks. It took a while for my biofilter to
> get established. I must admit that my filtration systems are also waaaay
> oversized relative to normal. My nitrates are definitely a problem and I
> change water about every 2 weeks. The bottom line seems to be that (fingers
> crossed here) I haven't lost a single fish since I established the 29 gallon
> over a year ago and the 100 gallon about 6 months ago.
>
> Am I in for a rude awakening some day?

Probably. 15 in a 29 is asking for trouble. 15 in a 100 isn't so much an issue,
at
least they have space to swim.
2 gallons per fish is horrible for a goldfish! Your nitrates and oxygen levels
must be over the top. I have a 63 gallon with 8 fish - very slightly overstocked
and they get 30-40% water changes at least once a week, which includes
collecting any
waste from the bottom.

[Raccoon]

I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish!

I'm going to take out a mortgage on a huge tank, or at least a few other
medium ones. This is taking over my life, but I'm hugely lucky in that my
landlord thinks fish are great and has no objection to his property being
completely dominated by goldies. What the hell will I do when I have to
move???

Tess

"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tom Puskar wrote:
> >
> > I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon
tank
> > both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The
29
> > gallon tank has about 15 fish in the 2-4 inch range and the 100 gallon
has
> > an equal amount in the 2-6 inch range. All the fish seem happy and are
> > growing. I struggled with ammonia levels for a while but now have
reached
> > the undetectable level in both tanks. It took a while for my biofilter
to
> > get established. I must admit that my filtration systems are also
waaaay
> > oversized relative to normal. My nitrates are definitely a problem and
I
> > change water about every 2 weeks. The bottom line seems to be that
(fingers
> > crossed here) I haven't lost a single fish since I established the 29
gallon
> > over a year ago and the 100 gallon about 6 months ago.
> >
> > Am I in for a rude awakening some day?
>
> Probably. 15 in a 29 is asking for trouble. 15 in a 100 isn't so much an
issue,
> at
> least they have space to swim.
> 2 gallons per fish is horrible for a goldfish! Your nitrates and oxygen
levels
> must be over the top. I have a 63 gallon with 8 fish - very slightly
overstocked
> and they get 30-40% water changes at least once a week, which includes
> collecting any
> waste from the bottom.

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
.....
>
> Am I in for a rude awakening some day?

Quite likely. Even with good biofiltration, nitrates
will build up that much faster, so you'll need to
do more frequent water changes.
You have very little margin for error or mishap: if
you have a bio crash (which actually can happen),
you've got less time to detect it and act.
I think the crowded conditions might also increase
the stress level on individual fish, increasing the
chances of illness.

You and the fish would enjoy it more if you had
fewer fish, more water, or both.
I have three average-sized (3-4") goldfish in a
55US gallon tank, and I think it looks just about
right. I had to put one of 'em in a 10G hospital a few
days ago, and he looks like he's in prison, poor thing.

Gunther

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yup. Ingrid

"Tom Puskar" > wrote:
>Am I in for a rude awakening some day?


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stick with more 20-40 gallon tanks and "close them".. ie, dont add new fish to a tank
once the correct number are in there... even if a fish in one dies.
big tanks are a real problem.. for the flooring and joists, and, if they spring a
leak and worst if a disease gets going or something goes nuts with the filtration or
heater and you loose a lot of fish. smaller tanks are also easier to clean. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish!
>
>I'm going to take out a mortgage on a huge tank, or at least a few other
>medium ones. This is taking over my life, but I'm hugely lucky in that my
>landlord thinks fish are great and has no objection to his property being
>completely dominated by goldies. What the hell will I do when I have to
>move???


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[Kellbot]

"Raccoon" > wrote in message >...
> I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish!
>
> I'm going to take out a mortgage on a huge tank, or at least a few other
> medium ones. This is taking over my life, but I'm hugely lucky in that my
> landlord thinks fish are great and has no objection to his property being
> completely dominated by goldies. What the hell will I do when I have to
> move???
>
> Tess
>

The whole moving issue is really the only thing keeping me from a room
full of fish. But I know I'll be moving out of here in 2 years at teh
latest, so better to wait. *sigh*

[weetat]

Hi all ,

Thanks all for your response.
For time being , i will stop added more fish into my tanks.
Is any good or bad to add real plants in my tank to have more
oxgen and goldfish hidding places ?

Any good ammonia and nitrater test kits which are very good and
accurate ?

Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks

[Geezer From The Freezer]

weetat wrote:
>
> Hi all ,
>
> Thanks all for your response.
> For time being , i will stop added more fish into my tanks.
> Is any good or bad to add real plants in my tank to have more
> oxgen and goldfish hidding places ?
>
> Any good ammonia and nitrater test kits which are very good and
> accurate ?
>
> Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks

There are loads....check out www.bigalsonline.com

Plants will help to suck up nitrates.

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GF eat plants. plants have to be quarantined and/or treated before put in with GF.
aquarium pharmaceuticals are reliable.
Ingrid

"weetat" > wrote:

>Hi all ,
>
>Thanks all for your response.
>For time being , i will stop added more fish into my tanks.
>Is any good or bad to add real plants in my tank to have more
>oxgen and goldfish hidding places ?
>
>Any good ammonia and nitrater test kits which are very good and
>accurate ?
>
>Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks



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www.drsolo.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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