sick Ranchu

[Raccoon]

I posted this before under "new shop" but thought it might be missed:

"I did buy a Ranchu, a gorgeous little chap, lemon and grey, very unusual.
Active and healthy looking...but when I got him home I noticed he's got a
deformity.

His anal port isnt where it should be, its actually between his tail fins
and to the side by about 3 cm. It looks a bit pink around the area and I
wonder if I need to treat him? I dont want to return him to the shop as
nobody will want to look after him like I do. "

I'll give him a fish physical to make sure I'm not wrong. I thought the
anal port was between the tail fins as it is ping round there and I thought
he was in the middle of a poop. But now it looks like an odd bit of flesh
or something? How do I treat a pink (not exactly red) sore? Bearing in
mind UK products seem to differ from USA ones.

Tess

[Raccoon]

OKay I examined him, (who said Ranchu were slow moving??)

Red gills, slime coat feels okay, belly not hard or mushy. Cant seem to
find the anal port where it should be, (will wait until I hopefully see him
poop) but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
which I thought was a white stringy poop, but on examination it looks like a
separate part of the tail fin. He really does look like he's a bit
deformed.

He's about 1 and 3/4 ins long (not including tail). so difficult to see
really well between his tail fins. I dont mind the deformity (after all
he's lived this long...not sure about telling fish age by its size) but the
pinkness might be an early hint of a sore? Could I use an over the counter
medicine to reduce the "soreness". He's otherwise active, right friendly
and eating well, getting on famously with his tankmates too.

Tess

"Raccoon" > wrote in message
...
> I posted this before under "new shop" but thought it might be missed:
>
> "I did buy a Ranchu, a gorgeous little chap, lemon and grey, very unusual.
> Active and healthy looking...but when I got him home I noticed he's got a
> deformity.
>
> His anal port isnt where it should be, its actually between his tail fins
> and to the side by about 3 cm. It looks a bit pink around the area and I
> wonder if I need to treat him? I dont want to return him to the shop as
> nobody will want to look after him like I do. "
>
> I'll give him a fish physical to make sure I'm not wrong. I thought the
> anal port was between the tail fins as it is ping round there and I
thought
> he was in the middle of a poop. But now it looks like an odd bit of flesh
> or something? How do I treat a pink (not exactly red) sore? Bearing in
> mind UK products seem to differ from USA ones.
>
> Tess
>
>

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it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low down between
the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html

"Raccoon" > wrote:
but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there


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[Raccoon]

I know, I'm thinking I was mistaken, but the area between the tail fins (is
it the peduncle?) is very pink and sore looking and has what looks and feels
like a bit of deformed fin sticking out of it

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
down between
> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>
>
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yes, the peduncle. treat topically. make sure you got a bit of salt in the tank.
often anchor worms and argulus attach here, difficult to find. gyros and columnaris
often target around the peduncle. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>I know, I'm thinking I was mistaken, but the area between the tail fins (is
>it the peduncle?) is very pink and sore looking and has what looks and feels
>like a bit of deformed fin sticking out of it
>
>Tess
>
> wrote in message
...
>> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
>down between
>> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>>
>> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



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[Raccoon]

Interesting about the anchor worms, am I right in thinking they are long
thin looking things? In which case He might have one attached. Can I
remove with a pair of tweezers? Or will that harm my fishy?

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> yes, the peduncle. treat topically. make sure you got a bit of salt in
the tank.
> often anchor worms and argulus attach here, difficult to find. gyros and
columnaris
> often target around the peduncle. Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >I know, I'm thinking I was mistaken, but the area between the tail fins
(is
> >it the peduncle?) is very pink and sore looking and has what looks and
feels
> >like a bit of deformed fin sticking out of it
> >
> >Tess
> >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
> >down between
> >> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
> >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
> >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
> >>
> >> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> >> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> >> endorsements or recommendations I make.
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

,
(sorry, I'm having a few "confused days" due to illness, please bear with
me.)

Actually I dont think its anchor worm as it doesnt have the forked tail. It
looks like a spine or something sticking into or out of the peduncle. I
hesitate to remove it with tweezers from the fish, in case its a sticking
out bone, or bit of fin. Are there any other cooties that look like this
without the forked tail?

Tess

"Raccoon" > wrote in message
...
> Interesting about the anchor worms, am I right in thinking they are long
> thin looking things? In which case He might have one attached. Can I
> remove with a pair of tweezers? Or will that harm my fishy?
>
> Tess
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > yes, the peduncle. treat topically. make sure you got a bit of salt in
> the tank.
> > often anchor worms and argulus attach here, difficult to find. gyros and
> columnaris
> > often target around the peduncle. Ingrid
> >
> > "Raccoon" > wrote:
> >
> > >I know, I'm thinking I was mistaken, but the area between the tail fins
> (is
> > >it the peduncle?) is very pink and sore looking and has what looks and
> feels
> > >like a bit of deformed fin sticking out of it
> > >
> > >Tess
> > >
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are
low
> > >down between
> > >> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
> > >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
> > >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
> > >>
> > >> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> > >> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion
there
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > >> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> > >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> > >> endorsements or recommendations I make.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> > endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>

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http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/symptom/byname.htm#lernea
yes, then treat topically. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>Interesting about the anchor worms, am I right in thinking they are long
>thin looking things? In which case He might have one attached. Can I
>remove with a pair of tweezers? Or will that harm my fishy?
>
>Tess
>
> wrote in message
...
>> yes, the peduncle. treat topically. make sure you got a bit of salt in
>the tank.
>> often anchor worms and argulus attach here, difficult to find. gyros and
>columnaris
>> often target around the peduncle. Ingrid
>>
>> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>>
>> >I know, I'm thinking I was mistaken, but the area between the tail fins
>(is
>> >it the peduncle?) is very pink and sore looking and has what looks and
>feels
>> >like a bit of deformed fin sticking out of it
>> >
>> >Tess
>> >
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
>> >down between
>> >> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
>> >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
>> >> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>> >>
>> >> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>> >> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> >> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> >> www.drsolo.com
>> >> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> >> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



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do try to remove with tweezers. what does it "feel" like.. have you tried to touch
it with your finger? Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>,
>(sorry, I'm having a few "confused days" due to illness, please bear with
>me.)
>
>Actually I dont think its anchor worm as it doesnt have the forked tail. It
>looks like a spine or something sticking into or out of the peduncle. I
>hesitate to remove it with tweezers from the fish, in case its a sticking
>out bone, or bit of fin. Are there any other cooties that look like this
>without the forked tail?
>
>Tess


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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
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endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

Yes I examined the fish, It feels slightly stiff, like a soft bristle, or
spine.
Tess

> wrote in message
...
> do try to remove with tweezers. what does it "feel" like.. have you tried
to touch
> it with your finger? Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >,
> >(sorry, I'm having a few "confused days" due to illness, please bear with
> >me.)
> >
> >Actually I dont think its anchor worm as it doesnt have the forked tail.
It
> >looks like a spine or something sticking into or out of the peduncle. I
> >hesitate to remove it with tweezers from the fish, in case its a sticking
> >out bone, or bit of fin. Are there any other cooties that look like this
> >without the forked tail?
> >
> >Tess
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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this is independent of the anal fin or fins, right?

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>Yes I examined the fish, It feels slightly stiff, like a soft bristle, or
>spine.
>Tess


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[Raccoon]

yep, it isnt attached to any other fin, just a singe "spine" looking thing
on its own. Its of similar colour to his fins, ie a pale grey/white.


Tess

> wrote in message
...
> this is independent of the anal fin or fins, right?
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >Yes I examined the fish, It feels slightly stiff, like a soft bristle, or
> >spine.
> >Tess
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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ok.. Jo Ann isnt at home right now. But remind me after Nov 1st and I will ask her
maybe she knows. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>yep, it isnt attached to any other fin, just a singe "spine" looking thing
>on its own. Its of similar colour to his fins, ie a pale grey/white.
>
>
>Tess
>
> wrote in message
...
>> this is independent of the anal fin or fins, right?
>>
>> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>>
>> >Yes I examined the fish, It feels slightly stiff, like a soft bristle, or
>> >spine.
>> >Tess
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

OKay will remember. In the meantime, shall I remove with tweezers? or wait
for confirmation?
Tess
> wrote in message
...
> ok.. Jo Ann isnt at home right now. But remind me after Nov 1st and I
will ask her
> maybe she knows. Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >yep, it isnt attached to any other fin, just a singe "spine" looking
thing
> >on its own. Its of similar colour to his fins, ie a pale grey/white.
> >
> >
> >Tess
> >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >> this is independent of the anal fin or fins, right?
> >>
> >> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes I examined the fish, It feels slightly stiff, like a soft bristle,
or
> >> >spine.
> >> >Tess
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> >> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> >> www.drsolo.com
> >> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> >> endorsements or recommendations I make.
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
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try gently to remove with tweezers. if it doesnt come lose, then leave it alone.
Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>OKay will remember. In the meantime, shall I remove with tweezers? or wait
>for confirmation?
>Tess


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[Raccoon]

I managed to pull it out with the tweezers, I was very gentle but it came
out really easily. Weird thing, about 7mm long, no fork just a straight,
white thing, but the end that was in the fish is very slightly yellow and
kinda bulbous. It could be a cootie, I looked under a magnifier, I dont
have a microscope.

Will treat the little chap topically now, he seems in good health, and is
getting used to being handled!

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> try gently to remove with tweezers. if it doesnt come lose, then leave it
alone.
> Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >OKay will remember. In the meantime, shall I remove with tweezers? or
wait
> >for confirmation?
> >Tess
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
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> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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I wonder if it was some kind of spine of some other kind of fish or ??? from pet
store tank before you got it. the blob on the end could be pus or the white blood
cells of the fish attacking a foreign object. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:

>I managed to pull it out with the tweezers, I was very gentle but it came
>out really easily. Weird thing, about 7mm long, no fork just a straight,
>white thing, but the end that was in the fish is very slightly yellow and
>kinda bulbous. It could be a cootie, I looked under a magnifier, I dont
>have a microscope.
>
>Will treat the little chap topically now, he seems in good health, and is
>getting used to being handled!
>
>Tess
>
> wrote in message
...
>> try gently to remove with tweezers. if it doesnt come lose, then leave it
>alone.
>> Ingrid
>>
>> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>>
>> >OKay will remember. In the meantime, shall I remove with tweezers? or
>wait
>> >for confirmation?
>> >Tess
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

I've no way of telling, when it dried out it just kind of crumbled up. The
wound is a pale pink colour, less dark than it was. I'm using salt in his
water, and dont want to add any other chemicals if I can avoid it. He's
very active and is swimming fine.

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> I wonder if it was some kind of spine of some other kind of fish or ???
from pet
> store tank before you got it. the blob on the end could be pus or the
white blood
> cells of the fish attacking a foreign object. Ingrid
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>
> >I managed to pull it out with the tweezers, I was very gentle but it came
> >out really easily. Weird thing, about 7mm long, no fork just a straight,
> >white thing, but the end that was in the fish is very slightly yellow and
> >kinda bulbous. It could be a cootie, I looked under a magnifier, I dont
> >have a microscope.
> >
> >Will treat the little chap topically now, he seems in good health, and is
> >getting used to being handled!
> >
> >Tess
> >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >> try gently to remove with tweezers. if it doesnt come lose, then leave
it
> >alone.
> >> Ingrid
> >>
> >> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >OKay will remember. In the meantime, shall I remove with tweezers? or
> >wait
> >> >for confirmation?
> >> >Tess
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> >> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> >> www.drsolo.com
> >> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> >> endorsements or recommendations I make.
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Raccoon]

I've realised that his anal port is in fact where it should be, I only saw
him poop for the first time yesterday, it looked good and healthy so I am
chuffed with that :)

The peduncle seems to be looking better each day too since I removed the
mystery spine.

Funny how close you feel to the fish that have been sick, I guess all the
patient nursing is quite a bonding thing.

Tess

> wrote in message
...
> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
down between
> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Raccoon wrote:
>
> I've realised that his anal port is in fact where it should be, I only saw
> him poop for the first time yesterday, it looked good and healthy so I am
> chuffed with that :)
>
> The peduncle seems to be looking better each day too since I removed the
> mystery spine.
>
> Funny how close you feel to the fish that have been sick, I guess all the
> patient nursing is quite a bonding thing.
>
> Tess

I agree, I bought a fish about a year ago, who had serious ich, I treated
his companion who recovered, but he didn't. I was gutted even though I'd
only had him a week.

[Raccoon]

I can sympathise with that :(

I rescued a little tiny comet with no tail, from a pet shop, the owner was
going to "get rid" of him. I had him for a week and everyone loved him ..he
was such a little trooper.

Sadly he didnt make it and I felt really miserable about it. Even though I
have other gorgeous fish I've had longer and absolutely adore.

Tess

"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Raccoon wrote:
> >
> > I've realised that his anal port is in fact where it should be, I only
saw
> > him poop for the first time yesterday, it looked good and healthy so I
am
> > chuffed with that :)
> >
> > The peduncle seems to be looking better each day too since I removed the
> > mystery spine.
> >
> > Funny how close you feel to the fish that have been sick, I guess all
the
> > patient nursing is quite a bonding thing.
> >
> > Tess
>
> I agree, I bought a fish about a year ago, who had serious ich, I treated
> his companion who recovered, but he didn't. I was gutted even though I'd
> only had him a week.

[Raccoon]

I just would like to say a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone who helped me on this,
especially Ingrid.

My little Ranchu (Spud) has made a perfect recovery, his peduncle is healed
right over and no sign of flukes, gribblies or raw flesh at all! He's
currently chasing Hamish round the tank and having a ball. :)

I added salt like you said to Ingrid, I also used Melafix, which seems to
heal rapidly. It also sorted Hamish's split fins out very quickly.

Tess xx

> wrote in message
...
> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
down between
> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>
> "Raccoon" > wrote:
> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
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> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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[[email protected]]

Tess, dont use Melafix/TEA TREE OIL/ Melaleuca products. one of the problems is it
not easy on the gills, the second is it can heal over top of area with bacterial
festering underneath. sores need to heal from the bottom outward. Ingrid

"Raccoon" > wrote:
I also used Melafix, which seems to
>heal rapidly.
>Tess xx


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Tom L. La Bron]

Tess,

Use the Melafix. Ingrid is giving you a load of crap about Melafix. It is
a good product and has been under years of research and develpment for the
aquarium community. On the issue of using Melafix she is talking out her
left ear.

Tom L.L.
"Raccoon" > wrote in message
...
>I just would like to say a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone who helped me on
>this,
> especially Ingrid.
>
> My little Ranchu (Spud) has made a perfect recovery, his peduncle is
> healed
> right over and no sign of flukes, gribblies or raw flesh at all! He's
> currently chasing Hamish round the tank and having a ball. :)
>
> I added salt like you said to Ingrid, I also used Melafix, which seems to
> heal rapidly. It also sorted Hamish's split fins out very quickly.
>
> Tess xx
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> it could just be an inflammation of some kind. normally anuses are low
> down between
>> the ventral and anal fins. and it is a little slit.
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/fins.html
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
>>
>> "Raccoon" > wrote:
>> but between tail fins, it looks pink and there is a protrusion there
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>