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Nzed
October 19th 04, 09:27 PM
I recently purchased a veil tail, a real beauty.
I have also a new celestrial and have them both in a quaranteen tank which
is still cycling.
The tank previously had two blackmores in there for a week or two.

Just today I noticed the veil tail had a black edge on one of the leading
edge of its gill fins...it looks like its almost detachable.

Any suggestions to what it is ?
Fin rot ?
I have done a search but doesnt look like a disease.
If it is a disease ...suggestions for treatment welcome.

NZed

shj
October 19th 04, 10:45 PM
How big is your tank? Black may be a sign you have high ammonia. Can
you measure?
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sophie
October 19th 04, 10:54 PM
In message >, shj
> writes
>How big is your tank? Black may be a sign you have high ammonia. Can
>you measure?

black edges are, I think, usually _healing_ ammonia burns; so if the
tank is cycling, you might want to check your nitrite levels now, too -
it might be past the ammonia stage.
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sophie

Nzed
October 19th 04, 11:51 PM
Checked yesterday
ph 7.2
amonia 0.25
nitrites 0.5
nitrate 0
and water changed. 25%

NZed
"sophie" > wrote in message
...
> In message >, shj
> > writes
> >How big is your tank? Black may be a sign you have high ammonia. Can
> >you measure?
>
> black edges are, I think, usually _healing_ ammonia burns; so if the
> tank is cycling, you might want to check your nitrite levels now, too -
> it might be past the ammonia stage.
> --
> sophie

Nzed
October 20th 04, 01:00 AM
I have now also noticed that the other gill fin has a black spot on the edge
as well.

In the meantime I have added Melafix antibacterial remedy.
and stress coat containing aloe vera.


NZed

"Nzed" > wrote in message
...
> I recently purchased a veil tail, a real beauty.
> I have also a new celestrial and have them both in a quaranteen tank which
> is still cycling.
> The tank previously had two blackmores in there for a week or two.
>
> Just today I noticed the veil tail had a black edge on one of the leading
> edge of its gill fins...it looks like its almost detachable.
>
> Any suggestions to what it is ?
> Fin rot ?
> I have done a search but doesnt look like a disease.
> If it is a disease ...suggestions for treatment welcome.
>
> NZed
>
>

shj
October 20th 04, 06:31 AM
Keep up your waterchanges and keep ammonia and nitrite low and it
should be OK. Is it a small tank?
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NZed
October 20th 04, 06:50 AM
Yes its only 28 litres.
I am using it as a quaranteen tank.
NZed

"shj" > wrote in message
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> Keep up your waterchanges and keep ammonia and nitrite low and it
> should be OK. Is it a small tank?
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October 20th 04, 02:38 PM
get rid of the melafix and stress coat and just change the water until the ammonia
and nitrite is almost undetectable. if you add anything, add polyaqua.
Ingrid

"Nzed" > wrote:

>I have now also noticed that the other gill fin has a black spot on the edge
>as well.
>
>In the meantime I have added Melafix antibacterial remedy.
>and stress coat containing aloe vera.
>
>
>NZed
>
>"Nzed" > wrote in message
...
>> I recently purchased a veil tail, a real beauty.
>> I have also a new celestrial and have them both in a quaranteen tank which
>> is still cycling.
>> The tank previously had two blackmores in there for a week or two.
>>
>> Just today I noticed the veil tail had a black edge on one of the leading
>> edge of its gill fins...it looks like its almost detachable.
>>
>> Any suggestions to what it is ?
>> Fin rot ?
>> I have done a search but doesnt look like a disease.
>> If it is a disease ...suggestions for treatment welcome.
>>
>> NZed
>>
>>
>



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October 20th 04, 02:39 PM
the quarantine/hospital tank should be as big as you can possible get and keep around
the house. a big 40 gallon rubbermaid tub is perfect. use it to hold fish stuff when
not in use. Ingrid

"NZed" > wrote:

>Yes its only 28 litres.
>I am using it as a quaranteen tank.
>NZed
>
>"shj" > wrote in message
...
>> Keep up your waterchanges and keep ammonia and nitrite low and it
>> should be OK. Is it a small tank?
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Nzed
October 20th 04, 09:23 PM
Thankyou for the replies
Could you tell me what polyaqua is and what it does ?
I will try and find an equivalent here in NZ.

I was talking to a friend last night and suggested it could be fin rot.
As its a veil goldfish and has been sitting on the bottom of the tank at
night.

Suggestions for a fin rot fix....
Have already given the tank a good clean out.

NZed

NZed
> wrote in message
...
> get rid of the melafix and stress coat and just change the water until the
ammonia
> and nitrite is almost undetectable. if you add anything, add polyaqua.
> Ingrid
>
> "Nzed" > wrote:
>
> >I have now also noticed that the other gill fin has a black spot on the
edge
> >as well.
> >
> >In the meantime I have added Melafix antibacterial remedy.
> >and stress coat containing aloe vera.
> >
> >
> >NZed
> >
> >"Nzed" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I recently purchased a veil tail, a real beauty.
> >> I have also a new celestrial and have them both in a quaranteen tank
which
> >> is still cycling.
> >> The tank previously had two blackmores in there for a week or two.
> >>
> >> Just today I noticed the veil tail had a black edge on one of the
leading
> >> edge of its gill fins...it looks like its almost detachable.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions to what it is ?
> >> Fin rot ?
> >> I have done a search but doesnt look like a disease.
> >> If it is a disease ...suggestions for treatment welcome.
> >>
> >> NZed
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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October 21st 04, 04:37 AM
Polyaqua is made by same company makes Novaqua. poly soothes gills.
Rx for fin rot is water changes every day, a bit of salt and not much more. a
peroxide dip and/or a salt dip to make sure active parasites are not there.

Jo Ann's PEROXIDE DIP for Goldfish
1 part 3% peroxide (like in drug store)
9 parts water
dip for 10 SECONDS ONLY
USES:
this kills flukes, both gyros and dacs
it does not kill much of anything else
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#SALT%20DIPS

"Nzed" > wrote:

>Thankyou for the replies
>Could you tell me what polyaqua is and what it does ?
>I will try and find an equivalent here in NZ.
>
>I was talking to a friend last night and suggested it could be fin rot.
>As its a veil goldfish and has been sitting on the bottom of the tank at
>night.
>
>Suggestions for a fin rot fix....
>Have already given the tank a good clean out.
>
>NZed


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www.drsolo.com
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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.