Pimafix

[Bill Stock]

OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not want
to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a noticeable
fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are showing
signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the Pimafix
yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I saw
a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a second
dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is just
a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.

The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this stuff
really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is it
just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
fishies) that Pimafix does not.

Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.

[[email protected]]

http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
TEA TREE OIL, Melaleuca controversy

Use of this oil in various formulations should proceed with caution for several
reasons.

There are numerous adverse reactions in other animal species.
There are some adverse reactions in fish.
It is related to the turpentine family.
It is a lipophilic oil that is absorbed across the skin, both dry and mucosal.
It is an oil related to those with hepatoxicity and neurotoxicity.
It is not all that effective compared to other medications.
Use in land animals is on a limited area of the skin. Fish are immersed in this for
periods of time. Ingestion appears to cause more toxicity than contact.

Material Safety Data Sheet. http://www.coldstream-plantation.com.au/material.html

I really like Aquarium Pharmaceutical test kits... but at least the melaleuca stuff
is a recycled old time remedy. I dont have any idea what this pimafix is, but it is
another oil of some kind. GF can smell really well. I just wouldnt be using this
stuff just cause it is new. there are normal remedies, malachite, methlene blue and
PP that work GREAT. MB for example is used to treat GF eggs against fungus. Ingrid


"Bill Stock" > wrote:

>OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not want
>to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
>Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a noticeable
>fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are showing
>signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the Pimafix
>yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I saw
>a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a second
>dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is just
>a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.
>
>The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this stuff
>really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is it
>just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
>Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
>fishies) that Pimafix does not.
>
>Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.
>
>



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[Kay]

wrote:
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
> TEA TREE OIL, Melaleuca controversy
>
> Use of this oil in various formulations should proceed with caution for several
> reasons.
>
> There are numerous adverse reactions in other animal species.
> There are some adverse reactions in fish.
> It is related to the turpentine family.
> It is a lipophilic oil that is absorbed across the skin, both dry and mucosal.
> It is an oil related to those with hepatoxicity and neurotoxicity.
> It is not all that effective compared to other medications.
> Use in land animals is on a limited area of the skin. Fish are immersed in this for
> periods of time. Ingestion appears to cause more toxicity than contact.
>
> Material Safety Data Sheet. http://www.coldstream-plantation.com.au/material.html
>
> I really like Aquarium Pharmaceutical test kits... but at least the melaleuca stuff
> is a recycled old time remedy. I dont have any idea what this pimafix is, but it is
> another oil of some kind. GF can smell really well. I just wouldnt be using this
> stuff just cause it is new. there are normal remedies, malachite, methlene blue and
> PP that work GREAT. MB for example is used to treat GF eggs against fungus. Ingrid
>
>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>
>
>>OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not want
>>to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
>>Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a noticeable
>>fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are showing
>>signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the Pimafix
>>yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I saw
>>a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a second
>>dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is just
>>a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.
>>
>>The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this stuff
>>really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is it
>>just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
>>Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
>>fishies) that Pimafix does not.
>>
>>Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
My fish has no ill effects from melafix at all. I have not used pima fix
as of yet.

Kay

[Bill Stock]

"Kay" > wrote in message
m...
> wrote:
> >
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
> > TEA TREE OIL, Melaleuca controversy
> >
> > Use of this oil in various formulations should proceed with caution for
several
> > reasons.
> >
> > There are numerous adverse reactions in other animal species.
> > There are some adverse reactions in fish.
> > It is related to the turpentine family.
> > It is a lipophilic oil that is absorbed across the skin, both dry and
mucosal.
> > It is an oil related to those with hepatoxicity and neurotoxicity.
> > It is not all that effective compared to other medications.
> > Use in land animals is on a limited area of the skin. Fish are immersed
in this for
> > periods of time. Ingestion appears to cause more toxicity than contact.
> >
> > Material Safety Data Sheet.
http://www.coldstream-plantation.com.au/material.html
> >
> > I really like Aquarium Pharmaceutical test kits... but at least the
melaleuca stuff
> > is a recycled old time remedy. I dont have any idea what this pimafix
is, but it is
> > another oil of some kind. GF can smell really well. I just wouldnt be
using this
> > stuff just cause it is new. there are normal remedies, malachite,
methlene blue and
> > PP that work GREAT. MB for example is used to treat GF eggs against
fungus. Ingrid
> >
> >
> > "Bill Stock" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not
want
> >>to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
> >>Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a
noticeable
> >>fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are
showing
> >>signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the
Pimafix
> >>yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I
saw
> >>a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a
second
> >>dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is
just
> >>a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.
> >>
> >>The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this
stuff
> >>really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is
it
> >>just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
> >>Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
> >>fishies) that Pimafix does not.
> >>
> >>Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> My fish has no ill effects from melafix at all. I have not used pima fix
> as of yet.

Thanks Kay,

Did it cure the affliction(s)?

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Get the pond melafix in the pond section of stores as it is much more
powerfull and priceing the same. I kinda like the smell of it but
with to much aeration then you get tons of bubbles

Marc
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:41:54 -0400, "Bill Stock" >
wrote:

>OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not want
>to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
>Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a noticeable
>fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are showing
>signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the Pimafix
>yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I saw
>a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a second
>dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is just
>a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.
>
>The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this stuff
>really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is it
>just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
>Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
>fishies) that Pimafix does not.
>
>Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.
>
>

[Kay]

Bill Stock wrote:
> "Kay" > wrote in message
> m...
>
wrote:
>>
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#TEA%20TREE%20OIL,%20Melaleuca
>
>>>TEA TREE OIL, Melaleuca controversy
>>>
>>>Use of this oil in various formulations should proceed with caution for
>
> several
>
>>>reasons.
>>>
>>>There are numerous adverse reactions in other animal species.
>>>There are some adverse reactions in fish.
>>>It is related to the turpentine family.
>>>It is a lipophilic oil that is absorbed across the skin, both dry and
>
> mucosal.
>
>>>It is an oil related to those with hepatoxicity and neurotoxicity.
>>>It is not all that effective compared to other medications.
>>>Use in land animals is on a limited area of the skin. Fish are immersed
>
> in this for
>
>>>periods of time. Ingestion appears to cause more toxicity than contact.
>>>
>>>Material Safety Data Sheet.
>
> http://www.coldstream-plantation.com.au/material.html
>
>>>I really like Aquarium Pharmaceutical test kits... but at least the
>
> melaleuca stuff
>
>>>is a recycled old time remedy. I dont have any idea what this pimafix
>
> is, but it is
>
>>>another oil of some kind. GF can smell really well. I just wouldnt be
>
> using this
>
>>>stuff just cause it is new. there are normal remedies, malachite,
>
> methlene blue and
>
>>>PP that work GREAT. MB for example is used to treat GF eggs against
>
> fungus. Ingrid
>
>>>
>>>"Bill Stock" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK, I wimped out, didn't go with the Potassium Permanganate. I did not
>
> want
>
>>>>to wipe out the Biofilter, as some had suggested. So I picked up some
>>>>Pimafix and Melafix for the boys. Only the one large fish has a
>
> noticeable
>
>>>>fungal infection (fuzzy white spot on his snout, but the others are
>
> showing
>
>>>>signs of a secondary bacterial infection. I applied 7 tsps of the
>
> Pimafix
>
>>>>yesterday and a good deal of the fuzz was gone this morning. I thought I
>
> saw
>
>>>>a brown spot of the center of the fungus this morning. I applied a
>
> second
>
>>>>dose of Pimafix this afternoon and the brown spot is gone. Now there is
>
> just
>
>>>>a hole where the white fuzz had been, like a bad zit.
>>>>
>>>>The Pimafix says to apply for seven days, but I've noticed that this
>
> stuff
>
>>>>really freaks the fish out when you add it. Does this stuff sting or is
>
> it
>
>>>>just the smell that bothers them? Secondly, the blurb says I can use the
>>>>Melafix and Pimafix together. What's the Melafix going to do for me (the
>>>>fishies) that Pimafix does not.
>>>>
>>>>Comments from Pimafix/Melafix users appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>My fish has no ill effects from melafix at all. I have not used pima fix
>>as of yet.
>
>
I used it on fish who was in a q-tank because he was new and he had a
cotton like fluff comeing from a gill. And Melifix took care of that.

Other than that, I have use it for torn fins on danios, minnows and a
really sick ram.

If I had a real sick fish, I would have other medications on standby.
And if the fish was really bad I would use both. I did that with the
Ram. took 3 weeks but he made it. I really didn't think he was going to
live he was old. He lived another year and a half!

I would not mix anything with PP though. If you are still thinking of
trying that. I used Ingrid's sugestion on th estock solution and it
worked well for me.

Kay

[Bill Stock]

[snip]


> I used it on fish who was in a q-tank because he was new and he had a
> cotton like fluff comeing from a gill. And Melifix took care of that.
>
> Other than that, I have use it for torn fins on danios, minnows and a
> really sick ram.
>
> If I had a real sick fish, I would have other medications on standby.
> And if the fish was really bad I would use both. I did that with the
> Ram. took 3 weeks but he made it. I really didn't think he was going to
> live he was old. He lived another year and a half!
>
> I would not mix anything with PP though. If you are still thinking of
> trying that. I used Ingrid's sugestion on th estock solution and it
> worked well for me.
>
> Kay

The fish with the fungus (cotton fluff) on his snout seems to have suffered
a relapse. The first time I applied the Pimafix it really knocked it back.
But know it seems to be returning. I gave him another dose today, so we'll
see what happens. I might try the Melafix and Pimafix together if he does
not completely heal.

If I decide to try another treatment, I'll run carbon for a few days first.

I looked at the Jungle fungus treatment today, ingredients were Salt,
Potassium Chromate and Furlan? Sounds a lot like Salt and PP.

[Kay]

Bill Stock wrote:
> [snip]
>
>
>
>>I used it on fish who was in a q-tank because he was new and he had a
>>cotton like fluff comeing from a gill. And Melifix took care of that.
>>
>>Other than that, I have use it for torn fins on danios, minnows and a
>>really sick ram.
>>
>>If I had a real sick fish, I would have other medications on standby.
>>And if the fish was really bad I would use both. I did that with the
>>Ram. took 3 weeks but he made it. I really didn't think he was going to
>>live he was old. He lived another year and a half!
>>
>>I would not mix anything with PP though. If you are still thinking of
>>trying that. I used Ingrid's sugestion on th estock solution and it
>>worked well for me.
>>
>>Kay
>
>
> The fish with the fungus (cotton fluff) on his snout seems to have suffered
> a relapse. The first time I applied the Pimafix it really knocked it back.
> But know it seems to be returning. I gave him another dose today, so we'll
> see what happens. I might try the Melafix and Pimafix together if he does
> not completely heal.
>
> If I decide to try another treatment, I'll run carbon for a few days first.
>
> I looked at the Jungle fungus treatment today, ingredients were Salt,
> Potassium Chromate and Furlan? Sounds a lot like Salt and PP.


I know there is a med with PP in it by Kordon I think. It has 3.8
percent which is the safe dosing. I only know about PP for disinfectant
though. I never have had any other uses for it.

Did you only use Pimafix once?

Kay

[Tom L. La Bron]

Bill,

You have to use the meds for the entire time stated. If you don't you will
see the problem return. I use the meds for 7 to 10 days.

The pimafix and melafix can be used in tandem. When used together the
pimafix takes care of the problem and the melafix helps in the healing
process.

I don't know if you have read Ingrid's webpage and I have not read it
recently, but the last time I saw it it was only good if you plan to make
you child drink full strength tea tree esssential oil. Most of the cases
that I saw featured there were case of extreme stupidity. Like the lady who
put more on her bird because if a little worked great and lot should work
better.

Meds are just that, medications an they should be used as directed.

If the Pimafix worked it is foolish to work with PP if you don't have to.
Smart move guy.

I don't know what is wrong with Ingrid, she has this thing in her ear about
Melafix and refuses to listen to reason. If you have ever worked with
Discus fish, fry specifically, it is the only med that has been found
effective for discus fry with out killing the spawn.

Good luck. Remember to use the meds for the specified amount of time.

When and if I buy new fish part of my quarentine is a two week dosing of
Melafix.

Tom L.L.
-------------------------------------
"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> [snip]
>
>
>> I used it on fish who was in a q-tank because he was new and he had a
>> cotton like fluff comeing from a gill. And Melifix took care of that.
>>
>> Other than that, I have use it for torn fins on danios, minnows and a
>> really sick ram.
>>
>> If I had a real sick fish, I would have other medications on standby.
>> And if the fish was really bad I would use both. I did that with the
>> Ram. took 3 weeks but he made it. I really didn't think he was going to
>> live he was old. He lived another year and a half!
>>
>> I would not mix anything with PP though. If you are still thinking of
>> trying that. I used Ingrid's sugestion on th estock solution and it
>> worked well for me.
>>
>> Kay
>
> The fish with the fungus (cotton fluff) on his snout seems to have
> suffered
> a relapse. The first time I applied the Pimafix it really knocked it back.
> But know it seems to be returning. I gave him another dose today, so we'll
> see what happens. I might try the Melafix and Pimafix together if he does
> not completely heal.
>
> If I decide to try another treatment, I'll run carbon for a few days
> first.
>
> I looked at the Jungle fungus treatment today, ingredients were Salt,
> Potassium Chromate and Furlan? Sounds a lot like Salt and PP.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Bill Stock]

"Tom L. La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Bill,
>
> You have to use the meds for the entire time stated. If you don't you
will
> see the problem return. I use the meds for 7 to 10 days.

They're on day 3 of the Pimafix. I'll be adding the Melafix soon, but I have
to work in a water change somewhere.



> The pimafix and melafix can be used in tandem. When used together the
> pimafix takes care of the problem and the melafix helps in the healing
> process.
>
> I don't know if you have read Ingrid's webpage and I have not read it
> recently, but the last time I saw it it was only good if you plan to make
> you child drink full strength tea tree esssential oil. Most of the cases
> that I saw featured there were case of extreme stupidity. Like the lady
who
> put more on her bird because if a little worked great and lot should work
> better.
>
> Meds are just that, medications an they should be used as directed.
>
> If the Pimafix worked it is foolish to work with PP if you don't have to.
> Smart move guy.
>
> I don't know what is wrong with Ingrid, she has this thing in her ear
about
> Melafix and refuses to listen to reason. If you have ever worked with
> Discus fish, fry specifically, it is the only med that has been found
> effective for discus fry with out killing the spawn.
>
> Good luck. Remember to use the meds for the specified amount of time.
>
> When and if I buy new fish part of my quarentine is a two week dosing of
> Melafix.
>
> Tom L.L.
> -------------------------------------
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >> I used it on fish who was in a q-tank because he was new and he had a
> >> cotton like fluff comeing from a gill. And Melifix took care of that.
> >>
> >> Other than that, I have use it for torn fins on danios, minnows and a
> >> really sick ram.
> >>
> >> If I had a real sick fish, I would have other medications on standby.
> >> And if the fish was really bad I would use both. I did that with the
> >> Ram. took 3 weeks but he made it. I really didn't think he was going
to
> >> live he was old. He lived another year and a half!
> >>
> >> I would not mix anything with PP though. If you are still thinking of
> >> trying that. I used Ingrid's sugestion on th estock solution and it
> >> worked well for me.
> >>
> >> Kay
> >
> > The fish with the fungus (cotton fluff) on his snout seems to have
> > suffered
> > a relapse. The first time I applied the Pimafix it really knocked it
back.
> > But know it seems to be returning. I gave him another dose today, so
we'll
> > see what happens. I might try the Melafix and Pimafix together if he
does
> > not completely heal.
> >
> > If I decide to try another treatment, I'll run carbon for a few days
> > first.
> >
> > I looked at the Jungle fungus treatment today, ingredients were Salt,
> > Potassium Chromate and Furlan? Sounds a lot like Salt and PP.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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it isnt PP. Ingrid

"Bill Stock" > wrote:

>I looked at the Jungle fungus treatment today, ingredients were Salt,
>Potassium Chromate and Furlan? Sounds a lot like Salt and PP.
>
>
>
>
>
>



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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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