Care about nature? Read this...

[Jerry]

President Bush is slaughtering the environment!
He has removed laws that protected the air we breath and the water we
drink. He has opened up national forests to major logging and road
building. He is promoting oil and gas drilling in nature reserves.
He has removed laws that protected endangered and threatened species.
He has taken actions that will make the effects of global warming even
worse, leading to more droughts and wildfires in some regions and
serious flooding in others. Basically, he has undone DECADES of work
done by environmentalists and is THE most environmentally destructive
president in history. If you care about life on this planet, DON'T
vote for him.

More info: http://www.bushgreenwatch.org
http://www.environment2004.org http://www.envirovictory.org

How can you help?
1) Vote Kerry - "an environmental champion"
2) Tell as many people as you can about the devastating things Bush is
doing to the environment and encourage them to vote for Kerry.

[Jim and Phyllis Hurley]

Jerry,

This is a pond ng rather than a political one.

As a rule, this ng does not enter into OT discussions.

When we do, it tends to be with careful identification of an OT post and
without strident advocacy.

By all means find an appropriate political ng for your post.

Jim
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"Jerry" > wrote in message
m...
> President Bush is slaughtering the environment!
> He has removed laws that protected the air we breath and the water we
> drink. He has opened up national forests to major logging and road
> building. He is promoting oil and gas drilling in nature reserves.
> He has removed laws that protected endangered and threatened species.
> He has taken actions that will make the effects of global warming even
> worse, leading to more droughts and wildfires in some regions and
> serious flooding in others. Basically, he has undone DECADES of work
> done by environmentalists and is THE most environmentally destructive
> president in history. If you care about life on this planet, DON'T
> vote for him.
>
> More info: http://www.bushgreenwatch.org
> http://www.environment2004.org http://www.envirovictory.org
>
> How can you help?
> 1) Vote Kerry - "an environmental champion"
> 2) Tell as many people as you can about the devastating things Bush is
> doing to the environment and encourage them to vote for Kerry.

[David H. Lipman]

Ditto !

Dave



"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
. ..
| By all means find an appropriate political ng for your post.

[J.D. Stone]

"Jerry" > wrote in message
m...
> President Bush is slaughtering the environment!
> snip.
>
My, my. That one man could do so much in so little time tsk. All by himself,
too, no doubt.

[Crashj]

On or about Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:27:24 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
> wrote something like:

>Ditto !
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
. ..
>| By all means find an appropriate political ng for your post.

Careful guys, this one is crossposted all to heck and gone.
None of which are political, by the way.
--
Crashj

[Azul Funk]

"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" > wrote in message
. ..
> Jerry,
>
> This is a pond ng rather than a political one.
>
> As a rule, this ng does not enter into OT discussions.
>
> When we do, it tends to be with careful identification of an OT post and
> without strident advocacy.
>
> By all means find an appropriate political ng for your post.
>



I, for one, think that there is a certain validity to this discussion within
the context of the ng (in my case alt.fishing).

Now, I'm Canadian, so I won't be voting for either candidate. I have a
significant interest in the election as a gambling vehicle, but I digress.

It's important to remember, Jerry, that many of the roads that afford us
access to the nature that we enjoy so much were originally made and are
currently maintained by the forestry industry. Too often, nature lovers
misunderstand the place that logging has in the ecosystem of a forest. I
agree that the forestry industry has abused their privilege frequently, and
continue to do so. I would like to see that change as much as anyone here,
especially in regards to salmon spawning streams, but to think that the
choice you make in the voting booth on the presidential ticket will have a
lick of difference is as foolish as hoping to catch a whale in your local
trout pond.

It's not going to matter. Kerry, Bush. the same corporations will control
the forest as do now and I suspect that they will be subject to the same
checks and balances (or lack thereof) as they are now. Face it, we're
doomed.

Your best bet if you care about nature and harmful practices within it is to
be a keen observer and report any violations to the proper authorities. Keep
your camera close at hand.



A.Funk

[steve]

>
> "Jerry" > wrote in message
> m...
> > President Bush is slaughtering the environment!
> > He has removed laws that protected the air we breath and the water we
> > drink. He has opened up national forests to major logging and road
> > building. He is promoting oil and gas drilling in nature reserves.
> > He has removed laws that protected endangered and threatened species.
> > He has taken actions that will make the effects of global warming even
> > worse, leading to more droughts and wildfires in some regions and
> > serious flooding in others. Basically, he has undone DECADES of work
> > done by environmentalists and is THE most environmentally destructive
> > president in history. If you care about life on this planet, DON'T
> > vote for him.
> >
> > More info: http://www.bushgreenwatch.org
> > http://www.environment2004.org http://www.envirovictory.org
> >
> > How can you help?
> > 1) Vote Kerry - "an environmental champion"
> > 2) Tell as many people as you can about the devastating things Bush is
> > doing to the environment and encourage them to vote for Kerry.

My gold fish have informed me they like Republicans.***** They like
unhealthy junk foods, they despise the strict liberal vegan diet, they
don't like the all natural lib ponds with no artificial pumps running
24/7 and they don't like liberal no mining policies or bans on
underwater plant logging.

They also like multiple pre-emptive and defensive measures taken
against Osama Bin Herron and Osama Bin Raccoon. Each one of my 30
goldfish are voting for Bush.

[Ka30P]

Steve wrote >Each one of my 30
>goldfish are voting

Okay, well if your goldfish get to vote, then my frogs say they'll vote for
anyone who promises to turn that fountain on the White House lawn into a pond
for frogs.And while they are at it take out the rose garden and turn it into a
bog garden. And forget the White House dog or cat and let's see a White House
bullfrog!


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

[Rodney]

steve wrote:

>
> They also like multiple pre-emptive and defensive measures taken
> against Osama Bin Herron and Osama Bin Raccoon. Each one of my 30
> goldfish are voting for Bush.

That might help off set the 9 out of 10 dead people who vote for that
goose killing Kerry

--
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Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[matrix j]

Long live STYROFOAM and DON'T recycle!

[Mike Z. Helm]

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:40:32 GMT, "Azul Funk"
>

>It's not going to matter. Kerry, Bush. the same corporations will control
>the forest as do now and I suspect that they will be subject to the same
>checks and balances (or lack thereof) as they are now. Face it, we're
>doomed.
>

But based on their record (rhetoric vs. actions), Bush is much more
harmful to the environment. It's not that Kerry cares more about it -
it's that Bush cares more about the corporations.

It probably won't make a significant difference though.

>Your best bet if you care about nature and harmful practices within it is to
>be a keen observer and report any violations to the proper authorities.


But under Bush, the "violations" very often wouldn't be violations -
they'd be exemptions specifically granted to circumvent regulations.

>Keep
>your camera close at hand.
>

--
There's no way to delay that trouble comin' everyday

[Gary]

Each one of my 30
> goldfish are voting for Bush.

Sorry, Steve, but my 30-some-odd goldfish all voted for Kerry, so I
guess our fish-votes basically cancelled each other out! Of course, I
bribed them with pieces of earthworms for voting my way! :)

To all --
See, we _can_ have some fun with this off-topic stuff. Let's try not
to be Nazi's about content purity of this ng and just take each post
for what it's worth. Can't do much about OT posts anyway, so we might
as well have a good time with it.
:)
Gary

[steve]

(Ka30P) wrote in message >...
> Steve wrote >Each one of my 30
> >goldfish are voting
>
> Okay, well if your goldfish get to vote, then my frogs say they'll vote for
> anyone who promises to turn that fountain on the White House lawn into a pond
> for frogs.And while they are at it take out the rose garden and turn it into a
> bog garden. And forget the White House dog or cat and let's see a White House
> bullfrog!
>
>
> kathy :-)
I have a better idea. Lets turn the reflecting pool in front of the
Washingtion monument into a giant Koi pond and during the summer put
in a few of those monster amazon lilies that you can stand on.

[steve]

(Gary) wrote in message >...
> Each one of my 30
> > goldfish are voting for Bush.
>
> Sorry, Steve, but my 30-some-odd goldfish all voted for Kerry, so I
> guess our fish-votes basically cancelled each other out! Of course, I
> bribed them with pieces of earthworms for voting my way! :)
>

Yeah, well if the next election is close my mosquito fish will be voting also:)



> To all --
> See, we _can_ have some fun with this off-topic stuff. Let's try not
> to be Nazi's about content purity of this ng and just take each post
> for what it's worth. Can't do much about OT posts anyway, so we might
> as well have a good time with it.
> :)
> Gary

I would like to claim my goldfish as dependents on my tax form this year.