Veggie filter???

OK guys 'n galls, curiosity has got the better of me. What is a veggie
filter? I'll tell you what a tiddler is if you tell me what ones of these
filter things is!

A tiddler is a young fish, bigger than fry, say 1 to 3 inches long - a sort
of young teenager - not out of high school yet. You know, wet around the
ears.

But what is a veggie filter? Is it something that they have in fish and
chip shops to stop people eating having a good diet? - really is fish and
chips only, no salad!

[Nedra]

Okay, sit back and just read :)

A veggie filter is separate 'pond' buillt adjacent to the main pond. You
build it
so that it is about 10 - 15% of the surface of your pond. For instance, my
veggie
filter is 4' by 8' ... which is a little more than the surface area of my
pond. Volume
doesn't count here! I dug mine to about 18" deep then lined it with regular
pond
liner. I used landscape timbers which turned out to be the easiest for me to
measure.
Build it like the Lincoln Logs ... Then I nailed 1 x 6"s around the top to
hold the liner down. My son built a
manifold to go on the bottom of the VF .... it is made of PVC with lots of
holes drilled all around.
Next you want to get a pump (mine's a 500 gph) for that will allow "dwell
time" ... that is slow enough for the
water to dwell in the Veggie Filter ;-) I put the pump on the opposite side
of the pond -
attached a black hose that extends all the way over to the VF .... up the
sides and over the top. I attached this end of the hose to a manifold that
sits on the bottom of the VF.
Turn on the pump and let it fill. I start my VF in early Spring;... i.e.
March in Missouri.
I have water iris that are several years old ... and really need to be
divided. Also Taro
and lots of Water Hyacinths. The roots of these plants filter the water -
you will
be surprised at how quickly your pond will clear.

That's it from me. I know lots of others have built their own veggie
filters and besides
I've probably forgotten something or other ----

Good Luck!

Nedra in Missouri

> wrote in message news:41815d52@padme....
> OK guys 'n galls, curiosity has got the better of me. What is a veggie
> filter? I'll tell you what a tiddler is if you tell me what ones of these
> filter things is!
>
> A tiddler is a young fish, bigger than fry, say 1 to 3 inches long - a
sort
> of young teenager - not out of high school yet. You know, wet around the
> ears.
>
> But what is a veggie filter? Is it something that they have in fish and
> chip shops to stop people eating having a good diet? - really is fish and
> chips only, no salad!
>
>
>

[Crashj]

On or about Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:52:55 +0100,
> wrote something like:

>OK guys 'n galls, curiosity has got the better of me.

As you seem new to usenet, let me point out that binaries are not
apropriate in a text based group. It takes more time than other may
want to spend.
If your pictures are of real interest to the group you can post them
at a website or an online photo album. Thanks for your understanding.
--
Crashj

[Nedra]

Wow! What a lovely garden you all have, Fireball. I noticed the pond area
is
under construction. I think alot of us in the States could love to have
your problem of fixing up an English Dorset cottage.... <sigh> You do
seem to have the idea of a veggie filter.

I would really like to see you
sign up for Free Web space. Then you could post lots of your pictures -
especially
interesting would be pictures of your progress with the construction.

Please let us know your website address. Just post it beneath your name
.....
Like this Freebie I have:

Nedra
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

> wrote in message news:418294e3@padme....
> Thanks Nedra. Curiouser and curiouser. So you have a another sort of
> 'logoon' area that the main pond water is pumped into. You put some plants
> in it and this loggon area clears the water in the main pond. Hmmmm.
> Interesting.
>
> If I have described it acurrately, I have one of those by accident. Due to
> the configuration of my garden, as you see from my pix, it lends itself to
> having waterfalls. The lower part of the garden is still under
construction
> after working on it all year, but that is what you get when you buy an
> unloved old English Dorset cottage. Everything needs rebuilding after 200
> years, apart from the walls of the cottage. All the stone work in the
> waterfalls pix I have built this summer. For some strange reason I didn't
> have the waterfall running when I took the picture. Strange but true.
>
> So its my top pond that will have good water cleaning properties. The
> gravelled intermediate area is completely waterlogged. the idea was to
grow
> marginals, those plant that like wet toes by a dry body. My tree fern
> absolutely loves this treatment, it has never been better and grown so
well.
> What plants would be recommended for my set up? I have put a few roots
of
> watercress in the waterrun a few months ago, and since then my wife and I
> have had a few salads garnished with the home grown crop.
>
>
> Fireball
>
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Okay, sit back and just read :)
> >
> > A veggie filter is separate 'pond' buillt adjacent to the main pond.
You
> > build it
> > so that it is about 10 - 15% of the surface of your pond. For instance,
> > my
> > veggie
> > filter is 4' by 8' ... which is a little more than the surface area of
my
> > pond. Volume
> > doesn't count here! I dug mine to about 18" deep then lined it with
> > regular
> > pond
> > liner. I used landscape timbers which turned out to be the easiest for
me
> > to
> > measure.
> > Build it like the Lincoln Logs ... Then I nailed 1 x 6"s around the top
> > to
> > hold the liner down. My son built a
> > manifold to go on the bottom of the VF .... it is made of PVC with lots
of
> > holes drilled all around.
> > Next you want to get a pump (mine's a 500 gph) for that will allow
"dwell
> > time" ... that is slow enough for the
> > water to dwell in the Veggie Filter ;-) I put the pump on the opposite
> > side
> > of the pond -
> > attached a black hose that extends all the way over to the VF .... up
the
> > sides and over the top. I attached this end of the hose to a manifold
that
> > sits on the bottom of the VF.
> > Turn on the pump and let it fill. I start my VF in early Spring;...
i.e.
> > March in Missouri.
> > I have water iris that are several years old ... and really need to be
> > divided. Also Taro
> > and lots of Water Hyacinths. The roots of these plants filter the
water -
> > you will
> > be surprised at how quickly your pond will clear.
> >
> > That's it from me. I know lots of others have built their own veggie
> > filters and besides
> > I've probably forgotten something or other ----
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Nedra in Missouri
>
>
>

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http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm veggie filter construction at
bottom
http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/details.htm details of the veggie filter
construction. I have long narrow cause I use upright plants, no water lettuce or
hyacynths (sp?)
http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/changes/changes.htm veggie filter from 2000-2003
Ingrid

> wrote:

>OK guys 'n galls, curiosity has got the better of me. What is a veggie
>filter? I'll tell you what a tiddler is if you tell me what ones of these
>filter things is!
>
>A tiddler is a young fish, bigger than fry, say 1 to 3 inches long - a sort
>of young teenager - not out of high school yet. You know, wet around the
>ears.
>
>But what is a veggie filter? Is it something that they have in fish and
>chip shops to stop people eating having a good diet? - really is fish and
>chips only, no salad!
>
>



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endorsements or recommendations I make.

Thanks for your appreciation. I have been living and working on my house for
10 years now, and I reckon another 5 years to go. Yes, a nice Dorset
cottage to work on is a nice dream, but 15 years of hard work is tunrs a
sigh in to ugggh. but I take it steady, make it a hobby and don't let it
make it a master. Why 15 years? - cause I haven't got $150,000 to pay
someone to do it for me, and I like creating things by myself with my own
hands. It took me 3 months to dig out the 2000 gallon pond - 3 years ago
now.



"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Wow! What a lovely garden you all have, Fireball. I noticed the pond
> area
> is
> under construction. I think alot of us in the States could love to have
> your problem of fixing up an English Dorset cottage.... <sigh> You do
> seem to have the idea of a veggie filter.
>
> I would really like to see you
> sign up for Free Web space. Then you could post lots of your pictures -
> especially
> interesting would be pictures of your progress with the construction.
>
> Please let us know your website address. Just post it beneath your name
> ....
> Like this Freebie I have:
>
> Nedra
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> > wrote in message news:418294e3@padme....
>> Thanks Nedra. Curiouser and curiouser. So you have a another sort of
>> 'logoon' area that the main pond water is pumped into. You put some
>> plants
>> in it and this loggon area clears the water in the main pond. Hmmmm.
>> Interesting.
>>
>> If I have described it acurrately, I have one of those by accident. Due
>> to
>> the configuration of my garden, as you see from my pix, it lends itself
>> to
>> having waterfalls. The lower part of the garden is still under
> construction
>> after working on it all year, but that is what you get when you buy an
>> unloved old English Dorset cottage. Everything needs rebuilding after
>> 200
>> years, apart from the walls of the cottage. All the stone work in the
>> waterfalls pix I have built this summer. For some strange reason I didn't
>> have the waterfall running when I took the picture. Strange but true.
>>
>> So its my top pond that will have good water cleaning properties. The
>> gravelled intermediate area is completely waterlogged. the idea was to
> grow
>> marginals, those plant that like wet toes by a dry body. My tree fern
>> absolutely loves this treatment, it has never been better and grown so
> well.
>> What plants would be recommended for my set up? I have put a few roots
> of
>> watercress in the waterrun a few months ago, and since then my wife and I
>> have had a few salads garnished with the home grown crop.
>>
>>
>> Fireball
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nedra" > wrote in message
>> nk.net...
>> > Okay, sit back and just read :)
>> >
>> > A veggie filter is separate 'pond' buillt adjacent to the main pond.
> You
>> > build it
>> > so that it is about 10 - 15% of the surface of your pond. For
>> > instance,
>> > my
>> > veggie
>> > filter is 4' by 8' ... which is a little more than the surface area of
> my
>> > pond. Volume
>> > doesn't count here! I dug mine to about 18" deep then lined it with
>> > regular
>> > pond
>> > liner. I used landscape timbers which turned out to be the easiest for
> me
>> > to
>> > measure.
>> > Build it like the Lincoln Logs ... Then I nailed 1 x 6"s around the
>> > top
>> > to
>> > hold the liner down. My son built a
>> > manifold to go on the bottom of the VF .... it is made of PVC with lots
> of
>> > holes drilled all around.
>> > Next you want to get a pump (mine's a 500 gph) for that will allow
> "dwell
>> > time" ... that is slow enough for the
>> > water to dwell in the Veggie Filter ;-) I put the pump on the opposite
>> > side
>> > of the pond -
>> > attached a black hose that extends all the way over to the VF .... up
> the
>> > sides and over the top. I attached this end of the hose to a manifold
> that
>> > sits on the bottom of the VF.
>> > Turn on the pump and let it fill. I start my VF in early Spring;...
> i.e.
>> > March in Missouri.
>> > I have water iris that are several years old ... and really need to be
>> > divided. Also Taro
>> > and lots of Water Hyacinths. The roots of these plants filter the
> water -
>> > you will
>> > be surprised at how quickly your pond will clear.
>> >
>> > That's it from me. I know lots of others have built their own veggie
>> > filters and besides
>> > I've probably forgotten something or other ----
>> >
>> > Good Luck!
>> >
>> > Nedra in Missouri
>>
>>
>>
>

Sorry about that. I had no idea about such protocol, although I did wonder
why people spent ages trying to describe a problem, sometimes clumsily,
rather than taking a picture for us all to see and learn from.

So why don't we open a news group especially for questions with pictures? I
don't think that webpages stuffed full of pix of which one fish with floppy
yellow poker dotted fins and nearly dead - or indeed even a dead fish, is at
all a good idea. Much better to attach a pix to the question - surely?

Fireball


"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
> On or about Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:52:55 +0100,
> > wrote something like:
>
>>OK guys 'n galls, curiosity has got the better of me.
>
> As you seem new to usenet, let me point out that binaries are not
> apropriate in a text based group. It takes more time than other may
> want to spend.
> If your pictures are of real interest to the group you can post them
> at a website or an online photo album. Thanks for your understanding.
> --
> Crashj

[Crashj]

On or about Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:13:13 -0000,
> wrote something like:

>Thanks for your appreciation.
<>
Fireball, it is perfectly acceptable to trim your posts to leave just
a hint of what your reply is about. You seem new to usenet? Perhaps a
vist to http://www.albion.com/netiquette/ is in order. I was directed
there early on by a considerate stranger.
Posting on the bottom is preferred, [although admittedly, not the norm
here]
A cute signature at the end helps us get to know you . . .
--
Crashj