trouble making Kalwasser

[LARRY KIMBLEY II]

I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger. Then
diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er. Then I drip it in to the tank (1
drop per second). Now I was figuring my calcium would go up. It was 200
now the drip has it up to 300. I was told the alkalinity was off what home
brew fixes the alkalinity. I am trying to get my calcium to 420.
Also do I let the white pickling lime settle to the bottom and just use the
clear fluid or use the cloudy white water to drip into the tank.
larry

[Billy]

"LARRY KIMBLEY II" > wrote in message
news:yPgjd.2597$mL1.734@trnddc08...
|I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger.
Then
| diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er. Then I drip it in to the
tank (1
| drop per second). Now I was figuring my calcium would go up. It
was 200
| now the drip has it up to 300. I was told the alkalinity was off
what home
| brew fixes the alkalinity. I am trying to get my calcium to 420.
| Also do I let the white pickling lime settle to the bottom and
just use the
| clear fluid or use the cloudy white water to drip into the tank.
| larry
|
|

Why are you adding the vinigar? It's used to super-saturate water
with the calcium hydrox, but you're only using 1tsp, half of water's
saturation cieling. If you're having troubles, skip the vinigar
untilk you get things sorted out. Furthermore, using kalk to increase
Ca is a patient man's game. Go slow. And mixed properly, there
shouldn't be much sediment on the bottom of your mixing vessel. Let
it sit for a couple hours after mixing, and take water from ABOVE the
sediment, avoid it, as the concentration will be too high. IIRC, the
vinigar might be what's messing with your alkalinity, but don't quote
me on that one.
I used to have a link to a -fabulous- kalk FAQ..but I can't seem to
locate it now....

billy

[Billy]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
| I used to have a link to a -fabulous- kalk FAQ..but I can't seem to
| locate it now....
|


Found it!!!
http://www.reef-aquarium.net/resources/chemicals/kalkwasser.html

Hope you can put it to some use.

billy

[rsman]

> Then diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er. Then I drip it in to the tank
> (1 drop per second).

ok so something scares me is that a typo or are you actually mixing it with
salt water

if so try freshwater NOT sal****er

[Toni]

"LARRY KIMBLEY II" > wrote in message
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> I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger. Then
> diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er.


Can't use sal****er- need reverse osmosis.



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[Soji John]

Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt
water should be fine.


Toni wrote:

>"LARRY KIMBLEY II" > wrote in message
>news:yPgjd.2597$mL1.734@trnddc08...
>
>
>>I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger. Then
>>diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er.
>>
>>
>
>
>Can't use sal****er- need reverse osmosis.
>
>
>
>
>

[Tre' Landrum]

So when doing a water change do you use kalk? I never have, but doesn't
sound like a half bad idea... if the pH wouldn't spike from that much kalk
being added at once. If you do this do you add the kalk to the salt water or
the salt to the kalk water? Either way do you have trouble with
precipitating out the Ca or other trace minerals? Maybe I am totally
misunderstanding. Thanks all

Tre'

"Soji John" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
> water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
> other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt water
> should be fine.
>
>
> Toni wrote:
>
>>"LARRY KIMBLEY II" > wrote in message
>>news:yPgjd.2597$mL1.734@trnddc08...
>>
>>>I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger.
>>>Then
>>>diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Can't use sal****er- need reverse osmosis.
>>
>>
>>
>>

[Boomer]

Tre'

I wouldn't be adding it to new salt water mix, there is to much to go wrong, unless it was
added slowly over long period.

Take a read at these;

http://web.archive.org/web/20030618210534/http://www.animalnetwork.com/fish2/aqfm/1999/aug/bio/default.asp

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2003/chem.htm

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"Tre' Landrum" > wrote in message
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: So when doing a water change do you use kalk? I never have, but doesn't
: sound like a half bad idea... if the pH wouldn't spike from that much kalk
: being added at once. If you do this do you add the kalk to the salt water or
: the salt to the kalk water? Either way do you have trouble with
: precipitating out the Ca or other trace minerals? Maybe I am totally
: misunderstanding. Thanks all
:
: Tre'
:
: "Soji John" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
: > water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
: > other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt water
: > should be fine.
: >
: >
: > Toni wrote:
: >
: >>"LARRY KIMBLEY II" > wrote in message
: >>news:yPgjd.2597$mL1.734@trnddc08...
: >>
: >>>I am mixing 1 teaspoon of pickling lime with 15 ml of white vineger.
: >>>Then
: >>>diluting it with 1 quart of sal****er.
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >>Can't use sal****er- need reverse osmosis.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
:
:

[Toni]

"Soji John" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
> water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
> other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt
> water should be fine.
>


I thought mixing limewater and sal****er resulted in calcium carbonate
precipitation?



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[Soji John]

You are probably right. Most salt mixes come with Ca added in so adding
extra Ca from the lime water would probably cause it to come out of
solution. Best way is as top off.



Toni wrote:

>"Soji John" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
>>water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
>>other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt
>>water should be fine.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>I thought mixing limewater and sal****er resulted in calcium carbonate
>precipitation?
>
>
>
>
>

[Tre' Landrum]

The biggest problem will be the trace minerals precipitating out, especially
Mg.

Tre'

"Toni" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Soji John" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
>> water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
>> other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt
>> water should be fine.
>>
>
>
> I thought mixing limewater and sal****er resulted in calcium carbonate
> precipitation?
>
>
>
> --
> Toni
> http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
>
>

[LARRY KIMBLEY II]

Wont a protein skimmer reduce the potassium and Mg?

"Tre' Landrum" > wrote in message
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> The biggest problem will be the trace minerals precipitating out,
> especially Mg.
>
> Tre'
>
> "Toni" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "Soji John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Yes, as others suggested, if you are using it to top off, please use RO
>>> water and not salt water, otherwise your salinity will increase. On the
>>> other hand, if you are doing it as part of a water change, then salt
>>> water should be fine.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I thought mixing limewater and sal****er resulted in calcium carbonate
>> precipitation?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Toni
>> http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
>>
>>
>
>

[Boomer]

No, it has no real effect on them

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