sleeping panda oranda

[Starfish]

Hi
I recently purchased a panda oranda and after a few days it was "sleeping"
on the bottom and is weak because the current would occasionally take it
away. I thought there was something wrong with its swim bladder and put it
in a hospital tank and fed peas. I noticed while in the hospital tank the
oranda would occasionally be very busy looking around and at other times it
would be sleeping.

Nitrates, ammonia nitrates are zero, ph7. All other fish seem happy tank
320litres.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Starfish wrote:
>
> Hi
> I recently purchased a panda oranda and after a few days it was "sleeping"
> on the bottom and is weak because the current would occasionally take it
> away. I thought there was something wrong with its swim bladder and put it
> in a hospital tank and fed peas. I noticed while in the hospital tank the
> oranda would occasionally be very busy looking around and at other times it
> would be sleeping.
>
> Nitrates, ammonia nitrates are zero, ph7. All other fish seem happy tank
> 320litres.

Nitrates zero? Are you sure, unless you have a heavily planted tank, or do
massive
water changes nitrates are unlikely to be zero.

How many fish were in your 320 litre tank? When I got my moors, they were kinda
depressed for a few days. I think they had "new tank" blues. They perked up
after a couple of days.

[Starfish]

actually nitrates are 5....
There are 10 fish in my tank..

My oranda is at the top now....occasionally he would swim around. He ate
some peas....im worried about his health.....twice i had to rescue him from
the intake of the filter...he was just stuck on there....hes really weak and
i am not sure not to do...its like he is sleeping..but when he does swim he
seems quite happy....no visable injuries or diseases....he not floating
upside down, slime coat is normal, gills are a nice dark pink...

i dont know what to do...i hope someone can help or assure me that the fish
will get over it....
"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Starfish wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I recently purchased a panda oranda and after a few days it was
>> "sleeping"
>> on the bottom and is weak because the current would occasionally take it
>> away. I thought there was something wrong with its swim bladder and put
>> it
>> in a hospital tank and fed peas. I noticed while in the hospital tank the
>> oranda would occasionally be very busy looking around and at other times
>> it
>> would be sleeping.
>>
>> Nitrates, ammonia nitrates are zero, ph7. All other fish seem happy tank
>> 320litres.
>
> Nitrates zero? Are you sure, unless you have a heavily planted tank, or do
> massive
> water changes nitrates are unlikely to be zero.
>
> How many fish were in your 320 litre tank? When I got my moors, they were
> kinda
> depressed for a few days. I think they had "new tank" blues. They perked
> up
> after a couple of days.

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really healthy gills are bright cherry red. this fish could have been over medicated
in the store or before shipping. lots of pristine water with a bit of salt, and
airstone and small quantities of great food and the fish may come around. keep eagle
eye out for ich showing up. Ingrid

gills are a nice dark pink...


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[Donald K]

At this point I would "tub" him.

Get two clean 5 gallon or better yet 18 gallon tubs, fill them with
treated water and allow the temperature to match your tank. Add a air
stone.

Move the fish to the tub and then from tub to tub every 24 hours,
cleaning and retreating the water.

http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#TUB_TO_TUB

-Donald

Starfish wrote:

> actually nitrates are 5....
> There are 10 fish in my tank..
>
> My oranda is at the top now....occasionally he would swim around. He
> ate some peas....im worried about his health.....twice i had to rescue
> him from the intake of the filter...he was just stuck on there....hes
> really weak and i am not sure not to do...its like he is sleeping..but
> when he does swim he seems quite happy....no visable injuries or
> diseases....he not floating upside down, slime coat is normal, gills
> are a nice dark pink...
>
> i dont know what to do...i hope someone can help or assure me that the
> fish will get over it....
> "Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Starfish wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I recently purchased a panda oranda and after a few days it was
>>> "sleeping"
>>> on the bottom and is weak because the current would occasionally
>>> take it away. I thought there was something wrong with its swim
>>> bladder and put it
>>> in a hospital tank and fed peas. I noticed while in the hospital
>>> tank the oranda would occasionally be very busy looking around and
>>> at other times it
>>> would be sleeping.
>>>
>>> Nitrates, ammonia nitrates are zero, ph7. All other fish seem happy
>>> tank 320litres.

--
"One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem,
see a fine picture, and, if it were possible, to speak a few reasonable
words." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[Starfish]

UPDATE

fish is back in main tank...still sleeping, but not as much. It is eating
and swimming up and down the tank.. I put a net in the corner where the
intake of the filter is (the bet is large enough for debris to go through
but smaller than the smallest fish. Oranda was curious about this and went
to check it out....but avoiding the filter. Stil feeding peas and soaking
good quality flake before feeding...ita swimming stronger
> wrote in message
...
> really healthy gills are bright cherry red. this fish could have been
> over medicated
> in the store or before shipping. lots of pristine water with a bit of
> salt, and
> airstone and small quantities of great food and the fish may come around.
> keep eagle
> eye out for ich showing up. Ingrid
>
> gills are a nice dark pink...
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.