red bloody dots and streaks on white shubunkin

[Starfish]

hi guys
Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly at
the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter media
and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a few
times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
parasites?
Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....

Hope someone can help
TIA
Ves

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this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature.

"Starfish" > wrote:

>hi guys
>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly at
>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter media
>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a few
>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>parasites?
>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>
>Hope someone can help
>TIA
>Ves



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[Starfish]

The blood dots (and streak ni one fin) seemed to have turned from a blood
red into a sort of washed out orangy red. I was told that it could be a
bacterial infection, but also thought it could have been costia. All the
fish are dartin except when they see me then they calm down. I have ordered
a new heater and should have it by friday. Is there anything that i should
do in the meantime to help her. I have a 200L tank and cant be heated till
friday.
> wrote in message
...
> this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and
> temperature.
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>>hi guys
>>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly
>>at
>>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>>media
>>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
>>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>>few
>>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>>parasites?
>>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
>>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>
>>Hope someone can help
>>TIA
>>Ves
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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sorry, didnt see the dots and STREAKS..Check water parameters including ammonia,
nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature. then start doing water changes, something is
wrong with the water. Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be increased to
3 teas. per 5 over a few days. Use rock salt with no additives.


"Starfish" > wrote:

>The blood dots (and streak ni one fin) seemed to have turned from a blood
>red into a sort of washed out orangy red. I was told that it could be a
>bacterial infection, but also thought it could have been costia. All the
>fish are dartin except when they see me then they calm down. I have ordered
>a new heater and should have it by friday. Is there anything that i should
>do in the meantime to help her. I have a 200L tank and cant be heated till
>friday.
> wrote in message
...
>> this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
>> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and
>> temperature.
>>
>> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>
>>>hi guys
>>>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly
>>>at
>>>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>>>media
>>>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
>>>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>>>few
>>>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>>>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>>>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>>>parasites?
>>>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
>>>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>>
>>>Hope someone can help
>>>TIA
>>>Ves
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Starfish]

Thankyou ingrid
Have been doing big water changes. The red blood spots have changed colour
to an orange red. Fish are still darting around like i put cafeen into the
water.
I think i found out what was the problem (what caused it)
The frozen bloodworms i got from the LFS looks like they were thawed out and
refrozen before they were sold to me. I AM SO UPSET as i have heard that it
can happen. I thought those morons would have more brains than that.

Would this be it?
:-(
Ves
> wrote in message
...
> sorry, didnt see the dots and STREAKS..Check water parameters including
> ammonia,
> nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature. then start doing water changes,
> something is
> wrong with the water. Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be
> increased to
> 3 teas. per 5 over a few days. Use rock salt with no additives.
>
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>>The blood dots (and streak ni one fin) seemed to have turned from a blood
>>red into a sort of washed out orangy red. I was told that it could be a
>>bacterial infection, but also thought it could have been costia. All the
>>fish are dartin except when they see me then they calm down. I have
>>ordered
>>a new heater and should have it by friday. Is there anything that i should
>>do in the meantime to help her. I have a 200L tank and cant be heated till
>>friday.
> wrote in message
...
>>> this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
>>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
>>> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and
>>> temperature.
>>>
>>> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>hi guys
>>>>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body,
>>>>mostly
>>>>at
>>>>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>>>>media
>>>>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her
>>>>first
>>>>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>>>>few
>>>>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>>>>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>>>>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>>>>parasites?
>>>>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to
>>>>help
>>>>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>>>
>>>>Hope someone can help
>>>>TIA
>>>>Ves
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>>> www.drsolo.com
>>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Starfish]

I was wondering
Are gallons US gallons or the other one?
I use metric
> wrote in message
...
> sorry, didnt see the dots and STREAKS..Check water parameters including
> ammonia,
> nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature. then start doing water changes,
> something is
> wrong with the water. Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be
> increased to
> 3 teas. per 5 over a few days. Use rock salt with no additives.
>
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>>The blood dots (and streak ni one fin) seemed to have turned from a blood
>>red into a sort of washed out orangy red. I was told that it could be a
>>bacterial infection, but also thought it could have been costia. All the
>>fish are dartin except when they see me then they calm down. I have
>>ordered
>>a new heater and should have it by friday. Is there anything that i should
>>do in the meantime to help her. I have a 200L tank and cant be heated till
>>friday.
> wrote in message
...
>>> this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
>>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
>>> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and
>>> temperature.
>>>
>>> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>hi guys
>>>>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body,
>>>>mostly
>>>>at
>>>>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>>>>media
>>>>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her
>>>>first
>>>>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>>>>few
>>>>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>>>>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>>>>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>>>>parasites?
>>>>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to
>>>>help
>>>>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>>>
>>>>Hope someone can help
>>>>TIA
>>>>Ves
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>>> www.drsolo.com
>>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Starfish wrote:
>
> I was wondering
> Are gallons US gallons or the other one?
> I use metric

US Gallons.

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I dont know, but bloodworms contribute a lot of waste if the fish dont get them all.


"Starfish" > wrote:
>Have been doing big water changes. The red blood spots have changed colour
>to an orange red. Fish are still darting around like i put cafeen into the
>water.
>I think i found out what was the problem (what caused it)
>The frozen bloodworms i got from the LFS looks like they were thawed out and
>refrozen before they were sold to me. I AM SO UPSET as i have heard that it
>can happen. I thought those morons would have more brains than that.
>
>Would this be it?
>:-(
>Ves
> wrote in message
...
>> sorry, didnt see the dots and STREAKS..Check water parameters including
>> ammonia,
>> nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature. then start doing water changes,
>> something is
>> wrong with the water. Add 1 teaspoon of salt per 5 gallons. This can be
>> increased to
>> 3 teas. per 5 over a few days. Use rock salt with no additives.
>>
>>
>> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>
>>>The blood dots (and streak ni one fin) seemed to have turned from a blood
>>>red into a sort of washed out orangy red. I was told that it could be a
>>>bacterial infection, but also thought it could have been costia. All the
>>>fish are dartin except when they see me then they calm down. I have
>>>ordered
>>>a new heater and should have it by friday. Is there anything that i should
>>>do in the meantime to help her. I have a 200L tank and cant be heated till
>>>friday.
> wrote in message
...
>>>> this sounds like costia. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
>>>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm
>>>> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and
>>>> temperature.
>>>>
>>>> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>hi guys
>>>>>Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body,
>>>>>mostly
>>>>>at
>>>>>the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>>>>>media
>>>>>and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her
>>>>>first
>>>>>ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>>>>>few
>>>>>times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>>>>>stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>>>>>Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>>>>>parasites?
>>>>>Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to
>>>>>help
>>>>>her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope someone can help
>>>>>TIA
>>>>>Ves
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>>>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>>>> www.drsolo.com
>>>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>>>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>>>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Starfish]

Thankyou!
"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Starfish wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering
>> Are gallons US gallons or the other one?
>> I use metric
>
> US Gallons.