Please help!!!

[Starfish]

hi guys
Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly at
the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter media
and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a few
times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
parasites?
Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....

Hope someone can help
TIA
Ves

[Limnophile]

Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.

"Starfish" > wrote in message
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> hi guys
> Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly
> at
> the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
> media
> and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
> ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
> few
> times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
> stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
> Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
> parasites?
> Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
> her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>
> Hope someone can help
> TIA
> Ves
>

[Starfish]

If i do a 20% waterchange every 2 days, Will it help Toby?
Thanks for clearing that up!!!!
"Limnophile" > wrote in message
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> Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.
>
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>> hi guys
>> Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly
>> at
>> the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
>> media
>> and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her
>> first
>> ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
>> few
>> times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
>> stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
>> Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
>> parasites?
>> Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to
>> help
>> her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....
>>
>> Hope someone can help
>> TIA
>> Ves
>>
>
>

[Limnophile]

"Starfish" > wrote in message
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> If i do a 20% waterchange every 2 days, Will it help Toby?
> Thanks for clearing that up!!!!
> "Limnophile" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.


Daily water changes will help, but probably won't cure the infection alone.
You should consider using antibiotics. The sites below have lots of good
info. The "discus disease" site also applies to other fish.

http://world.std.com/~enjolras/symtreat.htm

http://www.thekrib.com/Diseases/

http://faq.thekrib.com/disease-fw.html

Glad to help,
Limnophile

[Starfish]

I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything
about fish.
What else can help?
Salt?
"Limnophile" > wrote in message
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>
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>> If i do a 20% waterchange every 2 days, Will it help Toby?
>> Thanks for clearing that up!!!!
>> "Limnophile" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.
>
>
> Daily water changes will help, but probably won't cure the infection
> alone. You should consider using antibiotics. The sites below have lots of
> good info. The "discus disease" site also applies to other fish.
>
> http://world.std.com/~enjolras/symtreat.htm
>
> http://www.thekrib.com/Diseases/
>
> http://faq.thekrib.com/disease-fw.html
>
> Glad to help,
> Limnophile
>
>

[Limnophile]

"Starfish" > wrote in message
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>I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything
>about fish.
> What else can help?
> Salt?

Salt can help, but use it carefully. Too much salt will stress your fish and
make things worse. Keep up the daily water changes too. For a goldfish I
would use 0.5 grams of salt per liter for about a week, then stop using salt
and keep the water changes going.

If your vetrinarian is willing to help but doesn't know which medications to
use, 10 mg per liter of erythromycin or tetracycline should do the trick.

Other antibiotic pills / tablets can be used, but at different doses. Fish
should be treated with antibiotics as if the aquarium was a large animal,
horse / cow / pig etc. For example, if you have a 400 liter tank, it should
get the same amount of antibiotic as a 400 kg horse.

Or if you can't find a vetrinarian willing to prescibe antibiotics, salt is
less effective but should help.

Limnophile

[Starfish]

Thankyou!
The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people
(including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
grrrr
"Limnophile" > wrote in message
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>
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything
>>about fish.
>> What else can help?
>> Salt?
>
> Salt can help, but use it carefully. Too much salt will stress your fish
> and make things worse. Keep up the daily water changes too. For a goldfish
> I would use 0.5 grams of salt per liter for about a week, then stop using
> salt and keep the water changes going.
>
> If your vetrinarian is willing to help but doesn't know which medications
> to use, 10 mg per liter of erythromycin or tetracycline should do the
> trick.
>
> Other antibiotic pills / tablets can be used, but at different doses. Fish
> should be treated with antibiotics as if the aquarium was a large animal,
> horse / cow / pig etc. For example, if you have a 400 liter tank, it
> should get the same amount of antibiotic as a 400 kg horse.
>
> Or if you can't find a vetrinarian willing to prescibe antibiotics, salt
> is less effective but should help.
>
> Limnophile
>
>

[Limnophile]

"Starfish" > wrote in message
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> Thankyou!
> The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
> I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people
> (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
> grrrr

Where in Queensland? Maybe we're neighbors?

Just kidding, I'm in Wisconsin, north-central USA. If I dug a hole straight
down, I'd come out in the ocean 2,000 km south of Perth.

A couple other "fishy" thoughts, do you keep your fish at room temperature?
Goldfish do best at 20 to 24 C. They are healthier on a mainly vegetarian
diet, with just a little fish/meat/insect food.

Wishing your fish luck;
Limnophile

[Starfish]

Perth is still a damn far way to from Stanthorpe (south eastern QLD 3.5 hrs
drive south west from Brisbane)!!!! Might take arounf 40hrs to drive from
there to here!!!

Yeah...its summer here and the water is over 20c...i found out why my fish
got sick...refer to the frozen bloodworm post...im ****ed off....and sad....
"Limnophile" > wrote in message
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>
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thankyou!
>> The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
>> I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people
>> (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
>> grrrr
>
> Where in Queensland? Maybe we're neighbors?
>
> Just kidding, I'm in Wisconsin, north-central USA. If I dug a hole
> straight down, I'd come out in the ocean 2,000 km south of Perth.
>
> A couple other "fishy" thoughts, do you keep your fish at room
> temperature? Goldfish do best at 20 to 24 C. They are healthier on a
> mainly vegetarian diet, with just a little fish/meat/insect food.
>
> Wishing your fish luck;
> Limnophile
>
>

[Starfish]

They pretty much are vegos like me!....i dont eat red meat or fish

"Limnophile" > wrote in message
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>
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thankyou!
>> The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
>> I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people
>> (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
>> grrrr
>
> Where in Queensland? Maybe we're neighbors?
>
> Just kidding, I'm in Wisconsin, north-central USA. If I dug a hole
> straight down, I'd come out in the ocean 2,000 km south of Perth.
>
> A couple other "fishy" thoughts, do you keep your fish at room
> temperature? Goldfish do best at 20 to 24 C. They are healthier on a
> mainly vegetarian diet, with just a little fish/meat/insect food.
>
> Wishing your fish luck;
> Limnophile
>
>

[Vicki PS]

"Starfish" > wrote in message
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> Perth is still a damn far way to from Stanthorpe (south eastern QLD 3.5
hrs
> drive south west from Brisbane)!!!! Might take arounf 40hrs to drive from
> there to here!!!
>
> Yeah...its summer here and the water is over 20c...i found out why my fish
> got sick...refer to the frozen bloodworm post...im ****ed off....and
sad....

Doesn't your lfs stock antibiotics? Is there another pet shop, or a vet and
farm supplies place in Stanthorpe or Warwick where you could get
antibiotics? (I'm in Ipswich BTW, so we nearly are neighbours!)
Tetracycline and triple sulfa are available over the counter -- you don't
need a vet to dispense them. If you can't get a product marketed
specifically for aquarium fish, you can use the same antibiotic for birds or
large animals. (Doses as per Limnophile's post).

The heat is a real b*gger: the three tanks in my lounge registered water
temps around 34 deg C when I got home from work after 6pm last night.

Vicki PS

[Limnophile]

"Vicki PS" > wrote

> The heat is a real b*gger: the three tanks in my lounge registered water
> temps around 34 deg C when I got home from work after 6pm last night.
>
> Vicki PS
>

A simple way to reduce water temp is increase aeration and put a fan near
the tank. This saved me many lost fish until I could get an air conditioner.

Keith J.
aka Limnophile

[Starfish]

Cool! I used to live in Darra like 12 years ago.....
Stanthorpe has NOTHING!!!! Neither does Warwick...but i was successful in
Toowoomba at a place called "aquabird...

But i did get some pimafix and the red streaks and spots cleared right up!
"Vicki PS" > wrote in message
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> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Perth is still a damn far way to from Stanthorpe (south eastern QLD 3.5
> hrs
>> drive south west from Brisbane)!!!! Might take arounf 40hrs to drive from
>> there to here!!!
>>
>> Yeah...its summer here and the water is over 20c...i found out why my
>> fish
>> got sick...refer to the frozen bloodworm post...im ****ed off....and
> sad....
>
> Doesn't your lfs stock antibiotics? Is there another pet shop, or a vet
> and
> farm supplies place in Stanthorpe or Warwick where you could get
> antibiotics? (I'm in Ipswich BTW, so we nearly are neighbours!)
> Tetracycline and triple sulfa are available over the counter -- you don't
> need a vet to dispense them. If you can't get a product marketed
> specifically for aquarium fish, you can use the same antibiotic for birds
> or
> large animals. (Doses as per Limnophile's post).
>
> The heat is a real b*gger: the three tanks in my lounge registered water
> temps around 34 deg C when I got home from work after 6pm last night.
>
> Vicki PS
>
>