Panda oranda not well again PLEASE HELP!!!!

[Starfish]

Hi
I dont want to lose my baby....
here are the symptoms
-Gills moving constanty
-mouth opening and closing constantly
-black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
- Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
minutes)
-half closed fins
He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very keen
for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank

For constipation, how long do i continue the epsom salt treatment till the
fish gets better. I think i stopped to early last time because hes floating
again.

The only treatments i have available is epsom salt, pure rock salt, multi
cure, melafix and pimafix. No one in this bloody town have anything
else!!!!!

hope someone can clear this one up for me!
TIA
Ves

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Starfish wrote:
>
> Hi
> I dont want to lose my baby....
> here are the symptoms
> -Gills moving constanty
> -mouth opening and closing constantly
> -black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
> - Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
> minutes)
> -half closed fins
> He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very keen
> for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank
>

This seems like water quality issues - probably ammonia -
what are your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels. How big a tank and
inhabitants.

[Starfish]

The fish is an a 30 litre hospital tank by himself and water changes every
day of about 70-90%
parameters are:
PO4- 0mg l
Ca- 20mgl
No3- mgl
NH3/4 - 0.3 mg l
ph - 7.2
GH - 20
N02 - 0
Fe - 0

Feeding peas and wardleys gf crumbles presoaked
temp about 26 degrees celcius (80f)
2 airstones and internal filter (cotton wool changed every second day)
"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Starfish wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I dont want to lose my baby....
>> here are the symptoms
>> -Gills moving constanty
>> -mouth opening and closing constantly
>> -black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
>> - Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
>> minutes)
>> -half closed fins
>> He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very
>> keen
>> for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank
>>
>
> This seems like water quality issues - probably ammonia -
> what are your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels. How big a tank and
> inhabitants.

[[email protected]]

call Jo Ann 251-649-4790
stop feeding him. continue to change water, add a bit of salt. and check the gills.
Ingrid

"Starfish" > wrote:

>Hi
>I dont want to lose my baby....
>here are the symptoms
>-Gills moving constanty
>-mouth opening and closing constantly
>-black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
>- Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
>minutes)
>-half closed fins
> He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very keen
>for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank
>
>For constipation, how long do i continue the epsom salt treatment till the
>fish gets better. I think i stopped to early last time because hes floating
>again.
>
>The only treatments i have available is epsom salt, pure rock salt, multi
>cure, melafix and pimafix. No one in this bloody town have anything
>else!!!!!
>
>hope someone can clear this one up for me!
>TIA
>Ves



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[Starfish]

I live in Australia....So calling Jo Ann might be a bit difficult...

I will continue water changes and add salt.
Thankyou Ingrid
> wrote in message
...
> call Jo Ann 251-649-4790
> stop feeding him. continue to change water, add a bit of salt. and check
> the gills.
> Ingrid
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>I dont want to lose my baby....
>>here are the symptoms
>>-Gills moving constanty
>>-mouth opening and closing constantly
>>-black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
>>- Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
>>minutes)
>>-half closed fins
>> He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very
>> keen
>>for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank
>>
>>For constipation, how long do i continue the epsom salt treatment till the
>>fish gets better. I think i stopped to early last time because hes
>>floating
>>again.
>>
>>The only treatments i have available is epsom salt, pure rock salt, multi
>>cure, melafix and pimafix. No one in this bloody town have anything
>>else!!!!!
>>
>>hope someone can clear this one up for me!
>>TIA
>>Ves
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Starfish]

Don't worry....
He passed away a few hours ago....
life is pretty cruel isnt it....
> wrote in message
...
> call Jo Ann 251-649-4790
> stop feeding him. continue to change water, add a bit of salt. and check
> the gills.
> Ingrid
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>I dont want to lose my baby....
>>here are the symptoms
>>-Gills moving constanty
>>-mouth opening and closing constantly
>>-black "charcol smudge" type patches on body
>>- Leaning slightly to the right at top of tank ( moves once every 5 or so
>>minutes)
>>-half closed fins
>> He eats a little bit that he can see right infron of him...looks very
>> keen
>>for a second, then goes to his spot on the top of the tank
>>
>>For constipation, how long do i continue the epsom salt treatment till the
>>fish gets better. I think i stopped to early last time because hes
>>floating
>>again.
>>
>>The only treatments i have available is epsom salt, pure rock salt, multi
>>cure, melafix and pimafix. No one in this bloody town have anything
>>else!!!!!
>>
>>hope someone can clear this one up for me!
>>TIA
>>Ves
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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this is why I dont have any GF inside anymore. They are in the ponds. I just
couldnt take loving them like little puppies and have them die on me. Ingrid

"Starfish" > wrote:
>Don't worry....
>He passed away a few hours ago....
>life is pretty cruel isnt it....


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Starfish]

Yeah....The poor little fish was sick before i got him...even though he
showed no signs....but good news regarding the red spots and streaks...they
are gone and the ICH is on its way out too!!!!!
> wrote in message
...
> this is why I dont have any GF inside anymore. They are in the ponds. I
> just
> couldnt take loving them like little puppies and have them die on me.
> Ingrid
>
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>>Don't worry....
>>He passed away a few hours ago....
>>life is pretty cruel isnt it....
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.