tilapia buttikofferi

[blove]

is it possible to house other fish with these guys? i work at a local fish
store and ive gotten the impression that these guys are the nastiest. one
guy brought in his 8 inch tiger tilapia with 2-12 inch channel catfish, they
were all housed together in a 75 and the reason he brought em all in was
because the tilapia was beatin the crap out of the channels. Another story
is this guy housed his tilapia in with an oscar and the tilapia killed the
oscar. This other guy has a small tilapia in a 55 with a dempsy, green
terror, small oscar and he told me he needs to find a new home for the
tilapia because its kickin the crap out of his other fish. Whats everyones
opinions on this fish? He is one of my fave fishes and i do plan on owning
one sometime.

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[Polarhound]

blove wrote:
> is it possible to house other fish with these guys? i work at a local fish
> store and ive gotten the impression that these guys are the nastiest. one
> guy brought in his 8 inch tiger tilapia with 2-12 inch channel catfish, they
> were all housed together in a 75 and the reason he brought em all in was
> because the tilapia was beatin the crap out of the channels. Another story
> is this guy housed his tilapia in with an oscar and the tilapia killed the
> oscar. This other guy has a small tilapia in a 55 with a dempsy, green
> terror, small oscar and he told me he needs to find a new home for the
> tilapia because its kickin the crap out of his other fish. Whats everyones
> opinions on this fish? He is one of my fave fishes and i do plan on owning
> one sometime.

I keep a Buttikoferi with a Leporinus and 3 Anostomus. All are between
4-6" and in a 40g tank with several hiding places.

While the Buttikoferi clearly rules the tank, mine is a benevolent
ruler. He will move towards the characins for a moment and they will
bolt, but there is no biting, nipping or pushing involved.

When mixing other fish with a buttikoferi, you need to give plenty of
hiding places that can't be easily uprooted. I use a combination of
epoxied brick structures that have plastic plants off the top and other
plastic plants held onto the sides by suction cups.

My grouping competes equally for food (although the buttikoferi is a pig
of course!) with no fish damaging another. When I feed them seaweed
sheets, it's not uncommon for the buttikoferi to rip a large chunk off
then see an anostomus swim right up and have a tug-o-war for the food.

Any fish that you put in with a buttikoferi needs 2 qualities:

1. It needs to be a fast swimmer
2. It needs to be large enough that he can't swallow them.

As I write this, all 5 fish are hanging out in the middle of the tank
not more than 6 inches from each other. About the only thing I've ever
seen the buttikoferi attack is the Python when I go in to do cleanings.

While I'm going on about T.Buttikoferi, I would like to debunk one myth
of these fish. Many places say that you can house only 1 or more than
3-4 in a tank to have them get along. A close friend of mine has a 14"
and 9" buttikoferi living together in a 120g tank. They happily swim
side by side and never attack each other.

[Giafca]

I have been searching all over the internet for a tilapia to buy. I had
a Spotted Tilapia years ago that got on well with my cichlids. when
smaller he was getting picked on by my texas cichlid untill he grew a
bit ahd turned to fight one day. After that, he wouldchasing the texas
all over the tank every time he saw him.

Anyway if you know of any fish store that sells any tilapia (not for
food) please let me know because i just setup a 75gallon tank and would
like to find one of these guys to give him a nice home.

Giafca

ps... I am in the Chicago area, but would but from anyplace that can
ship.

Polarhound wrote:
> blove wrote:
> > is it possible to house other fish with these guys? i work at a
local fish
> > store and ive gotten the impression that these guys are the
nastiest. one
> > guy brought in his 8 inch tiger tilapia with 2-12 inch channel
catfish, they
> > were all housed together in a 75 and the reason he brought em all
in was
> > because the tilapia was beatin the crap out of the channels.
Another story
> > is this guy housed his tilapia in with an oscar and the tilapia
killed the
> > oscar. This other guy has a small tilapia in a 55 with a dempsy,
green
> > terror, small oscar and he told me he needs to find a new home for
the
> > tilapia because its kickin the crap out of his other fish. Whats
everyones
> > opinions on this fish? He is one of my fave fishes and i do plan
on owning
> > one sometime.
>
> I keep a Buttikoferi with a Leporinus and 3 Anostomus. All are
between
> 4-6" and in a 40g tank with several hiding places.
>
> While the Buttikoferi clearly rules the tank, mine is a benevolent
> ruler. He will move towards the characins for a moment and they will

> bolt, but there is no biting, nipping or pushing involved.
>
> When mixing other fish with a buttikoferi, you need to give plenty of

> hiding places that can't be easily uprooted. I use a combination of
> epoxied brick structures that have plastic plants off the top and
other
> plastic plants held onto the sides by suction cups.
>
> My grouping competes equally for food (although the buttikoferi is a
pig
> of course!) with no fish damaging another. When I feed them seaweed
> sheets, it's not uncommon for the buttikoferi to rip a large chunk
off
> then see an anostomus swim right up and have a tug-o-war for the
food.
>
> Any fish that you put in with a buttikoferi needs 2 qualities:
>
> 1. It needs to be a fast swimmer
> 2. It needs to be large enough that he can't swallow them.
>
> As I write this, all 5 fish are hanging out in the middle of the tank

> not more than 6 inches from each other. About the only thing I've
ever
> seen the buttikoferi attack is the Python when I go in to do
cleanings.
>
> While I'm going on about T.Buttikoferi, I would like to debunk one
myth
> of these fish. Many places say that you can house only 1 or more
than
> 3-4 in a tank to have them get along. A close friend of mine has a
14"
> and 9" buttikoferi living together in a 120g tank. They happily swim
> side by side and never attack each other.

[rna]

my neighbor has a mating pair of butterfoli in a 100 wit 4 parrots and 2
red devils 2 jack dempseys and an oscar(one oscar got mauled long time
ago)...the butterfoli have half the tank to them selves when its mating
time....they have even tried to build a wall of gravel....but was only
able to get bout 10inches up the side of the glass......jus have lots of
hiding places....because he has coral in the bac..so the fish are able
to hide from the butterfoli.....just buy them small and introduce the
fish with them as they get older....instead of when their larger....and
if they are ever fighting jus rearrange the hidden spaces....



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