Removing green algae sucessfully

[NZed]

I have been having a problem consistantly with green water born algae for
some time now. Having tried a number of products without sucess.(and doing
drastic water changes)
I had one retailer suggest not to use "Algae fix", however as a last ditch
effort. I used it.
http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-6117
Its fantastic....followed the instructions and it almost instantly cleared
the aquarium....in a mater of hours it was almost clear and in a day or two
it was absolutely crystal clear.
My only concern was if there was any negative effects from the product ie
effect the health of the fish...which it hasnt so far.
Could it be detrimental to my fish in the long run ? As I expect its some
form or herbacide.
Interestingly enough....there is still algae growing on the aquarium glass.

NZed



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there is a reason why you have algae. you have not treated the cause. what are your
nitrates? got gravel?
a bare bottom tank with adequate filtration and a well seasoned filter with warm
water will not have green water. Ingrid

"NZed" > wrote:

>I have been having a problem consistantly with green water born algae for
>some time now. Having tried a number of products without sucess.(and doing
>drastic water changes)
>I had one retailer suggest not to use "Algae fix", however as a last ditch
>effort. I used it.
>http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-6117
>Its fantastic....followed the instructions and it almost instantly cleared
>the aquarium....in a mater of hours it was almost clear and in a day or two
>it was absolutely crystal clear.
>My only concern was if there was any negative effects from the product ie
>effect the health of the fish...which it hasnt so far.
>Could it be detrimental to my fish in the long run ? As I expect its some
>form or herbacide.
>Interestingly enough....there is still algae growing on the aquarium glass.
>
>NZed
>
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[NZed]

Thats what I also told myself....
Nitrates are low...
I clean the gravel every 1 to 2 weeks, replacing 10 to 20% of the water
every two weeks.
In desperation I took out 60 to 70% to reduce the water born algae....with
no sucess.

Well seasoned filter....good point.. The tank is now about months old
.....Its a German 180 litre Jewal brand with its own internal filter system
.....which is supposed to be one of the best. (or was that just sales talk ?)
I heard the europeans like to have their tanks heavily planted.
http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/pdf/101920_GB.pdf page 4, info on filter
system.

I have also increased my number of plants....could this help ?
ph 7.2
nitrite ...always less than 2
nitrates.....approx 1
temp constantly 21/22 deg C room temp in our shop.

I also understand that sunlight could be a cause...the aquarium is approx 8
feet from the shop front window (facing west)...located on a side wall. The
front of the shop has a veranda over the top stopping any direct light. As a
precaution I have a roller blind which I draw down in the afternoons to
decrease the amount of sunlight.

It maybe interesting to mention I have a fellow business person who also
recently purchased an aquarium who has been having the same problems as me.
Coincidentally its the same brand as my tank.
I have also another person in our area who has a different set up using a
enhiem filter system....never had green water born algae before (4
years)...but has had this problem for the very first time. Also having
problems removing the algae.


> wrote in message
...
> there is a reason why you have algae. you have not treated the cause.
what are your
> nitrates? got gravel?
> a bare bottom tank with adequate filtration and a well seasoned filter
with warm
> water will not have green water. Ingrid
>
> "NZed" > wrote:
>
> >I have been having a problem consistantly with green water born algae for
> >some time now. Having tried a number of products without sucess.(and
doing
> >drastic water changes)
> >I had one retailer suggest not to use "Algae fix", however as a last
ditch
> >effort. I used it.
>
>http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-61
17
> >Its fantastic....followed the instructions and it almost instantly
cleared
> >the aquarium....in a mater of hours it was almost clear and in a day or
two
> >it was absolutely crystal clear.
> >My only concern was if there was any negative effects from the product ie
> >effect the health of the fish...which it hasnt so far.
> >Could it be detrimental to my fish in the long run ? As I expect its some
> >form or herbacide.
> >Interestingly enough....there is still algae growing on the aquarium
glass.
> >
> >NZed
> >
> >
> >
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OK.. here is the deal. green water means wastes are exceeding the filtration.
too many fish
too little filters
too much food
too few water changes, or,
gravel that is holding rotting solid wastes which is dumping nitrates

in your case, the tank has not finished cycling. there should be NO nitrites, NO
ammonia. when nitrates come up and the algae grows on the sides of the tanks, it
will be cycled. in the meantime water must be changed every day to keep the fish
safe from the nitrites. change enough water to have the nitrites barely detectable.
too high nitrites will kill off the biobug colonies. Ingrid





"NZed" > wrote:
>Thats what I also told myself....
>Nitrates are low...
>I clean the gravel every 1 to 2 weeks, replacing 10 to 20% of the water
>every two weeks.
>In desperation I took out 60 to 70% to reduce the water born algae....with
>no sucess.
>
>Well seasoned filter....good point.. The tank is now about months old
>....Its a German 180 litre Jewal brand with its own internal filter system
>....which is supposed to be one of the best. (or was that just sales talk ?)
>I heard the europeans like to have their tanks heavily planted.
>http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/pdf/101920_GB.pdf page 4, info on filter
>system.
>
>I have also increased my number of plants....could this help ?
>ph 7.2
>nitrite ...always less than 2
>nitrates.....approx 1
>temp constantly 21/22 deg C room temp in our shop.
>
>I also understand that sunlight could be a cause...the aquarium is approx 8
>feet from the shop front window (facing west)...located on a side wall. The
>front of the shop has a veranda over the top stopping any direct light. As a
>precaution I have a roller blind which I draw down in the afternoons to
>decrease the amount of sunlight.
>
>It maybe interesting to mention I have a fellow business person who also
>recently purchased an aquarium who has been having the same problems as me.
>Coincidentally its the same brand as my tank.
>I have also another person in our area who has a different set up using a
>enhiem filter system....never had green water born algae before (4
>years)...but has had this problem for the very first time. Also having
>problems removing the algae.
>
>
> wrote in message
...
>> there is a reason why you have algae. you have not treated the cause.
>what are your
>> nitrates? got gravel?
>> a bare bottom tank with adequate filtration and a well seasoned filter
>with warm
>> water will not have green water. Ingrid
>>
>> "NZed" > wrote:
>>
>> >I have been having a problem consistantly with green water born algae for
>> >some time now. Having tried a number of products without sucess.(and
>doing
>> >drastic water changes)
>> >I had one retailer suggest not to use "Algae fix", however as a last
>ditch
>> >effort. I used it.
>>
>>http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-61
>17
>> >Its fantastic....followed the instructions and it almost instantly
>cleared
>> >the aquarium....in a mater of hours it was almost clear and in a day or
>two
>> >it was absolutely crystal clear.
>> >My only concern was if there was any negative effects from the product ie
>> >effect the health of the fish...which it hasnt so far.
>> >Could it be detrimental to my fish in the long run ? As I expect its some
>> >form or herbacide.
>> >Interestingly enough....there is still algae growing on the aquarium
>glass.
>> >
>> >NZed



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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Juwel filters are crap - get a cannister on there!!!
I have two juwels and the filters are rubbish (well not
rubbish but not adequate for goldies)

NZed wrote:
>
> Thats what I also told myself....
> Nitrates are low...
> I clean the gravel every 1 to 2 weeks, replacing 10 to 20% of the water
> every two weeks.
> In desperation I took out 60 to 70% to reduce the water born algae....with
> no sucess.
>
> Well seasoned filter....good point.. The tank is now about months old
> ....Its a German 180 litre Jewal brand with its own internal filter system
> ....which is supposed to be one of the best. (or was that just sales talk ?)
> I heard the europeans like to have their tanks heavily planted.
> http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/pdf/101920_GB.pdf page 4, info on filter
> system.

[NZed]

Thanks for the feedback....
It did cross my mind that the filter wasnt adequate.
It will be interesting to see the difference with using a cannister filter.
I saw a chinese brand...similar design to enheim...
Your thoughts on the chinese canister filters ?
I can get Enheim and Fleval here.....
How often to you need to clean out the cannister filter type ?
NZed

"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
> Juwel filters are crap - get a cannister on there!!!
> I have two juwels and the filters are rubbish (well not
> rubbish but not adequate for goldies)
>
> NZed wrote:
> >
> > Thats what I also told myself....
> > Nitrates are low...
> > I clean the gravel every 1 to 2 weeks, replacing 10 to 20% of the water
> > every two weeks.
> > In desperation I took out 60 to 70% to reduce the water born
algae....with
> > no sucess.
> >
> > Well seasoned filter....good point.. The tank is now about months old
> > ....Its a German 180 litre Jewal brand with its own internal filter
system
> > ....which is supposed to be one of the best. (or was that just sales
talk ?)
> > I heard the europeans like to have their tanks heavily planted.
> > http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/pdf/101920_GB.pdf page 4, info on
filter
> > system.


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[Geezer From The Freezer]

from what I understand just clean it out when the flow slows.