Re: color deficiancy and test kits.

[PaulB]

You should look into electronic meters. Some of the things that test
kits test for can be tested with simple pen type meters pH, salinity,
Nitrate, calcium etc.

Some are expensive, but you might want to look into this for the ones
you are having problems with, assuming it is just certain tests.

I bought a pH meter because it is so hard to tell the difference between
the shades of red on my test strips.

http://www.aquaticreefsystems.com/aquarium_water_test.htm



plaguebeast wrote:
> I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way as most
> people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the difference between
> subtle colors like those in most test kits.
>
> If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test kit that is
> easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting tired of
> "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
>
> pb
>
>
>

[Stephen]

I too am beginning to realize that I must have a slight color recognition
problem. I just purchased one of the Hagen master kits and am having great
difficulty with it. I keep having to call in my wife to double check me.....
After looking in to it, it seems that this is not to uncommon in men and
will continue to get worse with age.

So far, I have had good luck with the fastest kits that have the color chips
built into the testing container. I have also been able to judge the AP
DryTab kits fairly well, but am concerned about their accuracy.

I have been searching for the right kits for myself for sometime now. I had
just never imagined that it could be a color recognition problem.... I am
thinking about putting my Hagen kit up on ebay and trying something else...


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"plaguebeast" > wrote in message
.. .
> I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way as most
> people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the difference
between
> subtle colors like those in most test kits.
>
> If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test kit that
is
> easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting tired
of
> "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
>
> pb
>
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

I've found the Salifert test kits to be best, except for pH - imho. I use a
Pinpoint Monitor for that, and finally *know* what the pH is. Heck, when the
meter said 8.3, I ran for my Salifert test kit to see it finally match that
kelly green color. It didn't, btw.

I do know that you need to read your results under normal daylight - yet not
direct sunlight. Looking at your test results under fluorescents won't make
things easier, I guarantee you. So I do my tests indoors, and step outside for
a minute to look down on the color chart and vial. I do my tests on Saturdays,
during the afternoon when the sun has shifted to the front of the house and away
from me.

Marc


Stephen wrote:

> I too am beginning to realize that I must have a slight color recognition
> problem. I just purchased one of the Hagen master kits and am having great
> difficulty with it. I keep having to call in my wife to double check me.....
> After looking in to it, it seems that this is not to uncommon in men and
> will continue to get worse with age.
>
> So far, I have had good luck with the fastest kits that have the color chips
> built into the testing container. I have also been able to judge the AP
> DryTab kits fairly well, but am concerned about their accuracy.
>
> I have been searching for the right kits for myself for sometime now. I had
> just never imagined that it could be a color recognition problem.... I am
> thinking about putting my Hagen kit up on ebay and trying something else...
>
> --
> Stephen
> --------------------------------------------------
> In-Dash MP3
> http://www.highwaymp3.com/
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way as most
> > people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the difference
> between
> > subtle colors like those in most test kits.
> >
> > If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test kit that
> is
> > easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting tired
> of
> > "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
> >
> > pb
> >
> >
> >

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[plaguebeast]

visit these links, see how you do on the tests.
http://members.aol.com/protanope/colorblindtest.html
http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html

Ishihara is the benchmark on Color Blindness testing. What's amazing is how
many people don't know they are colorblind. The other half of the coin are
the people who hear you say color blind and start saying, "what color is
this?" I always have to explain, I see colors, I just don't perceive them
the same way as most people. Then people invariably ask, "Well, then, how
do you perceive them ?" I try to explain but it is really fruitless, there
is no way to explain it. Another question people ask is "How do you know
which color is which ?" This one I can explain, "back in nursery school we
colored circles and the teacher pointed at the red one and said, "That one
is red." Just because I don't perceive it the same way does not mean I
can't learn by rote like the other kids. I mean, how did you all learn
colors?

One more item, since this has gotten very OT. When I was first tested by my
eye doctor when I was about 10, I looked at the Ishihara plates, seeing
nothing, I guessed and obviously got the number wrong. Now, understand, to
me, as I can see, there are no numbers in the Ishihara plates. I asked the
nurse who was administering the test, "how do you know if I am right or
wrong, do you just know the order of the plates." Since I saw absolutely
nothing, it was beyond my comprehension that anyone would see numbers.


"Stephen" > wrote in message
...
> I too am beginning to realize that I must have a slight color recognition
> problem. I just purchased one of the Hagen master kits and am having great
> difficulty with it. I keep having to call in my wife to double check
me.....
> After looking in to it, it seems that this is not to uncommon in men and
> will continue to get worse with age.
>
> So far, I have had good luck with the fastest kits that have the color
chips
> built into the testing container. I have also been able to judge the AP
> DryTab kits fairly well, but am concerned about their accuracy.
>
> I have been searching for the right kits for myself for sometime now. I
had
> just never imagined that it could be a color recognition problem.... I am
> thinking about putting my Hagen kit up on ebay and trying something
else...
>
>
> --
> Stephen
> --------------------------------------------------
> In-Dash MP3
> http://www.highwaymp3.com/
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way as
most
> > people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the difference
> between
> > subtle colors like those in most test kits.
> >
> > If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test kit that
> is
> > easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting tired
> of
> > "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
> >
> > pb
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Stephen]

I just ordered one too. The PH test kit is the one I am having the most
trouble reading.


--
Stephen
--------------------------------------------------
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--------------------------------------------------


"plaguebeast" > wrote in message
...
> Pinpoint ordered. I should have it tomorrow. I hope the 8.0 is really
8.2
> and I am misreading the color.
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've found the Salifert test kits to be best, except for pH - imho. I
> use a
> > Pinpoint Monitor for that, and finally *know* what the pH is. Heck,
when
> the
> > meter said 8.3, I ran for my Salifert test kit to see it finally match
> that
> > kelly green color. It didn't, btw.
> >
> > I do know that you need to read your results under normal daylight - yet
> not
> > direct sunlight. Looking at your test results under fluorescents won't
> make
> > things easier, I guarantee you. So I do my tests indoors, and step
> outside for
> > a minute to look down on the color chart and vial. I do my tests on
> Saturdays,
> > during the afternoon when the sun has shifted to the front of the house
> and away
> > from me.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Stephen wrote:
> >
> > > I too am beginning to realize that I must have a slight color
> recognition
> > > problem. I just purchased one of the Hagen master kits and am having
> great
> > > difficulty with it. I keep having to call in my wife to double check
> me.....
> > > After looking in to it, it seems that this is not to uncommon in men
and
> > > will continue to get worse with age.
> > >
> > > So far, I have had good luck with the fastest kits that have the color
> chips
> > > built into the testing container. I have also been able to judge the
AP
> > > DryTab kits fairly well, but am concerned about their accuracy.
> > >
> > > I have been searching for the right kits for myself for sometime now.
I
> had
> > > just never imagined that it could be a color recognition problem.... I
> am
> > > thinking about putting my Hagen kit up on ebay and trying something
> else...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > In-Dash MP3
> > > http://www.highwaymp3.com/
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way
as
> most
> > > > people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the difference
> > > between
> > > > subtle colors like those in most test kits.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test kit
> that
> > > is
> > > > easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting
> tired
> > > of
> > > > "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
> > > >
> > > > pb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Lone6Wolfpack]

i dont think i have aq prob reading my ph although it is hard. couple
points and questions.
You have to have the right lihting. The way i can describe how to view a
purple ph scale... FulL sunlight in the evening shining thru a window is
about as bright as you want to get, hold a white background about a 1/2 away
from the tube, thats the most important part. then observe thru the tube at
the white background and concentrate on this hue at the same time holding
the color chart in THE SAME LIGHT next to it so you can subconsciously
compare without taking your eye off the tube. then just glance back and
forth... etc...
i thought i may have been color blind but after looking at those charts i
may not be after all. but either way, I DONT THINK THAT MATTERS, other
vision probs may, and other tests may, im only familiar with the purple test
and know that comparing the shades, even if i could only see black and white
would still be accurate cause its all about shdes more that colors. its all
the same base color! color blindness works differently than this.
Now question. IS 8.4 PH too much? cause this is what my ancient cremsel
red drop test says, and i believe it cause i live in the desert and my reef
gets water straight from the town ground pumps, thru the storage tanks, into
my tap, un filtered,un chlorinated, unsoftened, uncontaminated, very rich in
minerals.
what should i do about my ph?

I use Salifert nitrate, i like it, but dont exactly like scooping salts...

wolfhedd.



"Stephen" > wrote in message
...
> I just ordered one too. The PH test kit is the one I am having the most
> trouble reading.
>
>
> --
> Stephen
> --------------------------------------------------
> In-Dash MP3
> http://www.highwaymp3.com/
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Pinpoint ordered. I should have it tomorrow. I hope the 8.0 is really
> 8.2
> > and I am misreading the color.
> >
> >
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've found the Salifert test kits to be best, except for pH - imho.
I
> > use a
> > > Pinpoint Monitor for that, and finally *know* what the pH is. Heck,
> when
> > the
> > > meter said 8.3, I ran for my Salifert test kit to see it finally match
> > that
> > > kelly green color. It didn't, btw.
> > >
> > > I do know that you need to read your results under normal daylight -
yet
> > not
> > > direct sunlight. Looking at your test results under fluorescents
won't
> > make
> > > things easier, I guarantee you. So I do my tests indoors, and step
> > outside for
> > > a minute to look down on the color chart and vial. I do my tests on
> > Saturdays,
> > > during the afternoon when the sun has shifted to the front of the
house
> > and away
> > > from me.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too am beginning to realize that I must have a slight color
> > recognition
> > > > problem. I just purchased one of the Hagen master kits and am having
> > great
> > > > difficulty with it. I keep having to call in my wife to double check
> > me.....
> > > > After looking in to it, it seems that this is not to uncommon in men
> and
> > > > will continue to get worse with age.
> > > >
> > > > So far, I have had good luck with the fastest kits that have the
color
> > chips
> > > > built into the testing container. I have also been able to judge the
> AP
> > > > DryTab kits fairly well, but am concerned about their accuracy.
> > > >
> > > > I have been searching for the right kits for myself for sometime
now.
> I
> > had
> > > > just never imagined that it could be a color recognition problem....
I
> > am
> > > > thinking about putting my Hagen kit up on ebay and trying something
> > else...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Stephen
> > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > In-Dash MP3
> > > > http://www.highwaymp3.com/
> > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> > > > .. .
> > > > > I am very color deficiant. I don't see colors quite the same way
> as
> > most
> > > > > people do and therefore I have a real problem telling the
difference
> > > > between
> > > > > subtle colors like those in most test kits.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone here has the same problem and can direct me to a test
kit
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > easier to use, please, please, send me a link. My wife is getting
> > tired
> > > > of
> > > > > "Honey, which color does this match to ?"
> > > > >
> > > > > pb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Personal Page:
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[plaguebeast]

"Lone6Wolfpack" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> i dont think i have aq prob reading my ph although it is hard. couple


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> >
> >
>
>

You need to understand, or rather, if you are colorblind, you won't be able
to understand. It does not matter what light the test results are viewed
under, a color deficiant person, me for one, is unable to see the difference
in the colors.

My new Pinpoint meter is great. I was reading the test as 8.0, PP says 8.2.
Strange though, at night after the lights have been out for an hour or so,
it goes to 8.35. Then in the morning it goes back to 8.2 just before the
lights go back on. I am not really too concerned, everything else is really
nice.