Fish hanging out at top of tank

[Devin]

Got an odd one here. I have a large fantail that hangs out at the top of my
40 gallon tank. He looks for all the world like he's floating from a food
problem. BUT, and I say again, BUT... if I put him in my 12 gallon hospital
tank, he's just fine. Never floats or anything. I just finished the week
long treatment with no food for 3 days, epsom salt in water, 80 degrees F,
etc., put him back in the 40 gallon, and he's right back at the top hanging
around. If I walk over to the tank, he swims around like nothing is wrong,
but then goes back to floating (he's always upright).

I'm at a loss to figure out what his problem is. There are 3 other fish in
the tank and they have no problems. I feed them all ProGold pellets, 8 or
10, twice a day, soaked and broken up before feeding. Twice a week everyone
gets shelled cooked peas. I have an Emperor filter and a 24" bubblebar for
tons of aeration. All water parameters are fine, and heater is set to 76
degrees F.

Any suggestions?

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Devin wrote:
>
> Got an odd one here. I have a large fantail that hangs out at the top of my
> 40 gallon tank. He looks for all the world like he's floating from a food
> problem. BUT, and I say again, BUT... if I put him in my 12 gallon hospital
> tank, he's just fine. Never floats or anything. I just finished the week
> long treatment with no food for 3 days, epsom salt in water, 80 degrees F,
> etc., put him back in the 40 gallon, and he's right back at the top hanging
> around. If I walk over to the tank, he swims around like nothing is wrong,
> but then goes back to floating (he's always upright).
>
> I'm at a loss to figure out what his problem is. There are 3 other fish in
> the tank and they have no problems. I feed them all ProGold pellets, 8 or
> 10, twice a day, soaked and broken up before feeding. Twice a week everyone
> gets shelled cooked peas. I have an Emperor filter and a 24" bubblebar for
> tons of aeration. All water parameters are fine, and heater is set to 76
> degrees F.
>
> Any suggestions?

what are the parameters? Is his dorsal stood up?

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Possibly a high ammonia level making it difficult to breathe and
burning his skin and gills .
Check the levels and let us know.

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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:44:55 GMT, "Devin" >
wrote:

>Got an odd one here. I have a large fantail that hangs out at the top of my
>40 gallon tank. He looks for all the world like he's floating from a food
>problem. BUT, and I say again, BUT... if I put him in my 12 gallon hospital
>tank, he's just fine. Never floats or anything. I just finished the week
>long treatment with no food for 3 days, epsom salt in water, 80 degrees F,
>etc., put him back in the 40 gallon, and he's right back at the top hanging
>around. If I walk over to the tank, he swims around like nothing is wrong,
>but then goes back to floating (he's always upright).
>
>I'm at a loss to figure out what his problem is. There are 3 other fish in
>the tank and they have no problems. I feed them all ProGold pellets, 8 or
>10, twice a day, soaked and broken up before feeding. Twice a week everyone
>gets shelled cooked peas. I have an Emperor filter and a 24" bubblebar for
>tons of aeration. All water parameters are fine, and heater is set to 76
>degrees F.
>
>Any suggestions?
>

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if he swims to the bottom and can stay there without moving, then it is simply
preference. if the minute he stops swimming he bobs up to teh top, then he is having
position or swim bladder problems. Ingrid


"Devin" > wrote:

>Got an odd one here. I have a large fantail that hangs out at the top of my
>40 gallon tank. He looks for all the world like he's floating from a food
>problem. BUT, and I say again, BUT... if I put him in my 12 gallon hospital
>tank, he's just fine. Never floats or anything. I just finished the week
>long treatment with no food for 3 days, epsom salt in water, 80 degrees F,
>etc., put him back in the 40 gallon, and he's right back at the top hanging
>around. If I walk over to the tank, he swims around like nothing is wrong,
>but then goes back to floating (he's always upright).
>
>I'm at a loss to figure out what his problem is. There are 3 other fish in
>the tank and they have no problems. I feed them all ProGold pellets, 8 or
>10, twice a day, soaked and broken up before feeding. Twice a week everyone
>gets shelled cooked peas. I have an Emperor filter and a 24" bubblebar for
>tons of aeration. All water parameters are fine, and heater is set to 76
>degrees F.
>
>Any suggestions?
>



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[Devin]

Figured it's quicker to post here than answer each question individually:

Water paramaters are all good. My Nitrates go up a little each week, but I
do water changes to keep them under control. Ammonia does not even
register. Tank has been cycled for over 6 months now.

His dorsal fin is upright when he's swimmig, but if he's at the top, it
obviously folds back somewhat to stay in the water.

What Ingrid said got me thinking: when I put him in the smaller tank, he's
continously active, so I don't see if he pops to the surface when he isn't
moving. Now that he's in the big tank it's hard to tell; he COULD be doing
that, but just when he goes to the surface. He has no difficulty swimming
at all, and when it's feeding time, he's right there at the front left
bottom corner with the other 3 begging like a hungry dog.

I'd like to try some different food for them; I think that maybe this became
a problem when I went onto the ProGold a few months back. What other type
of food is good for Fancies that have this problem, if it is digestive?

Thanks everyone, fish sure are a lot of trouble!

-Devin

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aquadine. it could be this fish is more piggy and smells floating oils at the
surface and is up there looking for more food. Ingrid

"Devin" > wrote:
>I'd like to try some different food for them; I think that maybe this became
>a problem when I went onto the ProGold a few months back. What other type
>of food is good for Fancies that have this problem, if it is digestive?
>
>Thanks everyone, fish sure are a lot of trouble!
>
>-Devin
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Devin]

Thanks. I just ordered a sample of some of their 50/50 mix flake food and
will see how it goes.

-Devin


> wrote in message
...
> aquadine. it could be this fish is more piggy and smells floating oils at
> the
> surface and is up there looking for more food. Ingrid
>
> "Devin" > wrote:
>>I'd like to try some different food for them; I think that maybe this
>>became
>>a problem when I went onto the ProGold a few months back. What other type
>>of food is good for Fancies that have this problem, if it is digestive?
>>
>>Thanks everyone, fish sure are a lot of trouble!
>>
>>-Devin
>>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[KRF]

I just got some of the Aquadine food that I ordered earlier in the week.
My fish LOVE it. It took them a minute to get used to it as I had been
feeding slow sinking pellets. Thanks for the advice Ingrid.

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remember, something like 1 flake per inch of fish .. without the tail. for really
small ones break up the flakes. Ingrid

(KRF) wrote:

>I just got some of the Aquadine food that I ordered earlier in the week.
>My fish LOVE it. It took them a minute to get used to it as I had been
>feeding slow sinking pellets. Thanks for the advice Ingrid.



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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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