Corals Spawning

[Benjamin]

Just thought I would toss this out to all of you. I have been looking into
this for awhile but the abc.net site below sums it up well so I thought I'd
share.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm

What would happen to a tank setup should one actually succeed in creating an
environment that could cause such a spawn as this?
Next question would be does anyone have any ideas on how to calculate a
target date for the middle of a continent? Is it even possible to guess?
How does one simulate the High/Low as well as the "Neap" Tides in confines
of a normal sized aquarium? Or would one even have to?
Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5 gallon
pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate fine,
and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a waste of
money and all of them die?

Any comments or opinions will be welcomed.

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[Dragon Slayer]

> Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5
gallon
> pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate
fine,
> and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a waste of
> money and all of them die?



purely just my thinking out loud here so your free to take it with a grain
of IO salt.

I think that corals aren't hatched out of the eggs as an actual coral
animal, they go through larva stages and free swim before settling and
attaching (Thank God for Discovery Channel).

as for the 'what would someone pay' well if you could preserve them a fair
price, as when I have watched this massive spawning from the Great Barrier
Reef (Discovery Channel again) the fish go crazy eating all the eggs, and I
would assume its a great nutritional value.

[Marc Levenson]

If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago, and got
some great pictures.

I read about some researcher(s) that pulled a piece of coral from the reef and
happened to notice that the reef spawned at a specific time coinciding with a
moon event, and the coral he was observing in the tank did as well!

My anemone spawned last week:

http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/spawning.html

Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new baby
corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how small.

Marc


Benjamin wrote:

> Just thought I would toss this out to all of you. I have been looking into
> this for awhile but the abc.net site below sums it up well so I thought I'd
> share.
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm
>
> What would happen to a tank setup should one actually succeed in creating an
> environment that could cause such a spawn as this?
> Next question would be does anyone have any ideas on how to calculate a
> target date for the middle of a continent? Is it even possible to guess?
> How does one simulate the High/Low as well as the "Neap" Tides in confines
> of a normal sized aquarium? Or would one even have to?
> Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5 gallon
> pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate fine,
> and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a waste of
> money and all of them die?
>
> Any comments or opinions will be welcomed.
>
> --
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/

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[Boomer]

Marc

The spawning you saw was that of a male and male sperm, as they are often said they look
like they are smokin'
When it is female spawn, you will see small little beads (eggs), they can come out the
mouth or just pop right out of the tentacles, usually at the tip. My giant tube anemone
did this a number of times a year (female spawn). Here is a pic of a female and male coral
spawning , you can see the eggs rising (white dots) and the smokin' male

http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm

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"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
: If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
: MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago, and got
: some great pictures.
:
: I read about some researcher(s) that pulled a piece of coral from the reef and
: happened to notice that the reef spawned at a specific time coinciding with a
: moon event, and the coral he was observing in the tank did as well!
:
: My anemone spawned last week:
:
: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/spawning.html
:
: Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new baby
: corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how small.
:
: Marc
:
:
: Benjamin wrote:
:
: > Just thought I would toss this out to all of you. I have been looking into
: > this for awhile but the abc.net site below sums it up well so I thought I'd
: > share.
: >
: > http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm
: >
: > What would happen to a tank setup should one actually succeed in creating an
: > environment that could cause such a spawn as this?
: > Next question would be does anyone have any ideas on how to calculate a
: > target date for the middle of a continent? Is it even possible to guess?
: > How does one simulate the High/Low as well as the "Neap" Tides in confines
: > of a normal sized aquarium? Or would one even have to?
: > Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5 gallon
: > pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate fine,
: > and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a waste of
: > money and all of them die?
: >
: > Any comments or opinions will be welcomed.
: >
: > --
: >
: > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
:
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: Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
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:
:

[Benjamin]

Marc,

> If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
> MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago,
and got
> some great pictures.

Nice, do you know of anyone that has seen a mass spawn in a tank? Mass
being more than just one reef inhabitant at the same time? My understanding
of these events led me to believe that many different species do this at the
same time. Is that not true and I need to do some more reading?

> Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new
baby
> corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how
small.

No matter how small the inhabitants? How about No inhabitants other than
bacteria? Maybe you recall that I play around with "Man Made Live Rock".

Any Ideas on Tide simulation, or is the moons gravity doing that
automatically no matter the volume of water?

Thanks,


My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
> MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago,
and got
> some great pictures.
>
> I read about some researcher(s) that pulled a piece of coral from the reef
and
> happened to notice that the reef spawned at a specific time coinciding
with a
> moon event, and the coral he was observing in the tank did as well!
>
> My anemone spawned last week:
>
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/spawning.html
>
> Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new
baby
> corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how
small.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Benjamin wrote:
>
> > Just thought I would toss this out to all of you. I have been looking
into
> > this for awhile but the abc.net site below sums it up well so I thought
I'd
> > share.
> >
> > http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm
> >
> > What would happen to a tank setup should one actually succeed in
creating an
> > environment that could cause such a spawn as this?
> > Next question would be does anyone have any ideas on how to calculate a
> > target date for the middle of a continent? Is it even possible to
guess?
> > How does one simulate the High/Low as well as the "Neap" Tides in
confines
> > of a normal sized aquarium? Or would one even have to?
> > Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5
gallon
> > pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate
fine,
> > and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a waste
of
> > money and all of them die?
> >
> > Any comments or opinions will be welcomed.
> >
> > --
> >
> > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

did a little reading up on this and also saw a partial movie about the
spawning at the not so local LFS (its 80 miles away) and the corals stay in
egg form for aprox 5 days then "hatch" and settle to the bottom and if lucky
start a life as a coral...

learn something new every day.

kc

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Dragon,
>
> I also watch "educational" shows. In fact the one that got me going on
this
> idea was one on the earth's moon and all that it is, what it does for us,
> and could do in the future.
> Now I for one have never even seen an ocean, so I really have no clue
other
> than the internet and television education I get . However is seems to me
> that some must make it or we wouldn't have reefs at all.
> The other thought is that if "they" can freeze dry sperm (or brine shrimp
> eggs) for later impregnation for one example. They certainly could find a
> way capture, bottle, and ship some fertilized coral "eggs" to me in the
> middle of nowhere.
> Maybe someday this hobby will get that on the ball but then again maybe
not.
> All I know is I thought it was a neat idea and I for one would pay plenty
> for a "Tank in a Bottle".
> --
> --
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
>
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5
> > gallon
> > > pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate
> > fine,
> > > and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a
waste
> of
> > > money and all of them die?
> >
> >
> >
> > purely just my thinking out loud here so your free to take it with a
grain
> > of IO salt.
> >
> > I think that corals aren't hatched out of the eggs as an actual coral
> > animal, they go through larva stages and free swim before settling and
> > attaching (Thank God for Discovery Channel).
> >
> > as for the 'what would someone pay' well if you could preserve them a
fair
> > price, as when I have watched this massive spawning from the Great
Barrier
> > Reef (Discovery Channel again) the fish go crazy eating all the eggs,
and
> I
> > would assume its a great nutritional value.
> >
> >
>
>

[Timothy D. Birthisel]

Next week TerraSubAqua will be engaged in rearing coral larvae from the
Keys, we collect the eggs and sperm as plankton and rear them up in a wet
lab for later planting. The Mountainous Star species, the main reef
builders, will spawn most likely Tuesday night just following moonset.
The goals of this work are both restoration and commercial, we can plant the
larvae in the wild or on our rock farm. Additionally, the mature "seeker"
stage of the larvae can be shipped anywhere in the world, and planted in
aquaria, it's already been done.
This must be done responsibly lest we introduce exotic species into areas
where they become biological pollution.
I thought it was interesting that this string is discussing exactly what
TerraSubAqua is about, see our other posting in this group and consider
supporting the kind of development you are wishing for...

Tim Birthisel ~ TerraSubAqua
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~~~ Eve 419 874 0828 ~~~
~~~ Mob 419 343 9842 ~~~
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"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> did a little reading up on this and also saw a partial movie about the
> spawning at the not so local LFS (its 80 miles away) and the corals stay
in
> egg form for aprox 5 days then "hatch" and settle to the bottom and if
lucky
> start a life as a coral...
>
> learn something new every day.
>
> kc
>
> "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dragon,
> >
> > I also watch "educational" shows. In fact the one that got me going on
> this
> > idea was one on the earth's moon and all that it is, what it does for
us,
> > and could do in the future.
> > Now I for one have never even seen an ocean, so I really have no clue
> other
> > than the internet and television education I get . However is seems to
me
> > that some must make it or we wouldn't have reefs at all.
> > The other thought is that if "they" can freeze dry sperm (or brine
shrimp
> > eggs) for later impregnation for one example. They certainly could find
a
> > way capture, bottle, and ship some fertilized coral "eggs" to me in the
> > middle of nowhere.
> > Maybe someday this hobby will get that on the ball but then again maybe
> not.
> > All I know is I thought it was a neat idea and I for one would pay
plenty
> > for a "Tank in a Bottle".
> > --
> > --
> >
> > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5
> > > gallon
> > > > pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank,
acclimate
> > > fine,
> > > > and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a
> waste
> > of
> > > > money and all of them die?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > purely just my thinking out loud here so your free to take it with a
> grain
> > > of IO salt.
> > >
> > > I think that corals aren't hatched out of the eggs as an actual coral
> > > animal, they go through larva stages and free swim before settling and
> > > attaching (Thank God for Discovery Channel).
> > >
> > > as for the 'what would someone pay' well if you could preserve them a
> fair
> > > price, as when I have watched this massive spawning from the Great
> Barrier
> > > Reef (Discovery Channel again) the fish go crazy eating all the eggs,
> and
> > I
> > > would assume its a great nutritional value.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Timothy D. Birthisel]

Viable coral larvae are $5.00 apiece in lots of 20 or more. Availability is
severely limited and there are customer restrictions intended to avoid
biological pollution.
TerraSubAqua

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Marc,
>
> > If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
> > MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago,
> and got
> > some great pictures.
>
> Nice, do you know of anyone that has seen a mass spawn in a tank? Mass
> being more than just one reef inhabitant at the same time? My
understanding
> of these events led me to believe that many different species do this at
the
> same time. Is that not true and I need to do some more reading?
>
> > Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new
> baby
> > corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how
> small.
>
> No matter how small the inhabitants? How about No inhabitants other than
> bacteria? Maybe you recall that I play around with "Man Made Live Rock".
>
> Any Ideas on Tide simulation, or is the moons gravity doing that
> automatically no matter the volume of water?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If you have optimum conditions in your tank, you'll see spawning occur.
> > MtnDewMan on Reef Central observed his clams spawning a few months ago,
> and got
> > some great pictures.
> >
> > I read about some researcher(s) that pulled a piece of coral from the
reef
> and
> > happened to notice that the reef spawned at a specific time coinciding
> with a
> > moon event, and the coral he was observing in the tank did as well!
> >
> > My anemone spawned last week:
> >
> > http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/spawning.html
> >
> > Collecting the eggs, even if possible, would not result in a reef of new
> baby
> > corals. It would be plankton-food for your inhabitants, no matter how
> small.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Benjamin wrote:
> >
> > > Just thought I would toss this out to all of you. I have been looking
> into
> > > this for awhile but the abc.net site below sums it up well so I
thought
> I'd
> > > share.
> > >
> > > http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/october2002/default.htm
> > >
> > > What would happen to a tank setup should one actually succeed in
> creating an
> > > environment that could cause such a spawn as this?
> > > Next question would be does anyone have any ideas on how to calculate
a
> > > target date for the middle of a continent? Is it even possible to
> guess?
> > > How does one simulate the High/Low as well as the "Neap" Tides in
> confines
> > > of a normal sized aquarium? Or would one even have to?
> > > Also, I wonder what we would pay for say a 6oz (or for some of you 5
> gallon
> > > pail) jar of these "Coral Eggs", would they take to a tank, acclimate
> fine,
> > > and grow like weeds if the tank was within normal specs? Or be a
waste
> of
> > > money and all of them die?
> > >
> > > Any comments or opinions will be welcomed.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Hi Timothy,

How small is the larvae? How do you suggest hobbyists use these? Are they put
in empty cycled tanks, where no predators exist, like a refugium setting? How
is the larvae fed? What type of growth can a person expect, if conditions are
properly met?

Marc


"Timothy D. Birthisel" wrote:

> Viable coral larvae are $5.00 apiece in lots of 20 or more. Availability is
> severely limited and there are customer restrictions intended to avoid
> biological pollution.
> TerraSubAqua
>

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