Sodium Thiosulfate

[~ Windsong ~]

Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.

Thanks! :-)
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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Toll Free 1-877-347-4788 Aquatic Eco-Systems, Inc. ~ jan


>On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" > wrote:

>Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
>anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
>number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
>
>Thanks! :-)

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[ajames54]

5 pounds? in what form? pure that would probably dechlor a large lake!

Only works on Chlorine... will break the bonds of chloramine leaving
free ammonia.

With Chlorine it forms NaCl (salt), salt will cause ammonia to be
released from many of the binders used to hold it (like the Ammo-chips
sold for aquariums ... not zeolite what is that stuff really called?)

Anyway all this is to say...If present ammonia should be dealt with
and tested before and after use.

[~ Windsong ~]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> Toll Free 1-877-347-4788 Aquatic Eco-Systems, Inc. ~ jan
>
>
> >On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" >
wrote:
>
> >Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
> >anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
> >number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
> >
> >Thanks! :-)
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
===========================
Thanks Jan! :-)

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[~ Windsong ~]

"ajames54" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> 5 pounds? in what form? pure that would probably dechlor a large lake!

## I have a lot of 150 GF pools and 2 ponds. Actually I would only need a
lb or so but 5 lbs would be ok. :-) It will probably last me the rest of
my life.

> Only works on Chlorine... will break the bonds of chloramine leaving
> free ammonia.

## We don't have chloramine in our water.

> With Chlorine it forms NaCl (salt), salt will cause ammonia to be
> released from many of the binders used to hold it (like the Ammo-chips
> sold for aquariums ... not zeolite what is that stuff really called?)

## I'm cluless since I never used these products (Ammo-chips etc).

> Anyway all this is to say...If present ammonia should be dealt with
> and tested before and after use.

## There are no ammonia problems in any of my pools or ponds.
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yes, pure. salt has to be nearly a brine before it knocks ammonia off of zeolite.
low levels of salt wont do that to any significant level. Ingrid

"ajames54" > wrote:

>5 pounds? in what form? pure that would probably dechlor a large lake!
>
>Only works on Chlorine... will break the bonds of chloramine leaving
>free ammonia.
>
>With Chlorine it forms NaCl (salt), salt will cause ammonia to be
>released from many of the binders used to hold it (like the Ammo-chips
>sold for aquariums ... not zeolite what is that stuff really called?)
>
>Anyway all this is to say...If present ammonia should be dealt with
>and tested before and after use.



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[Benign Vanilla]

"ajames54" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> 5 pounds? in what form? pure that would probably dechlor a large lake!
>
> Only works on Chlorine... will break the bonds of chloramine leaving
> free ammonia.
>
> With Chlorine it forms NaCl (salt), salt will cause ammonia to be
> released from many of the binders used to hold it (like the Ammo-chips
> sold for aquariums ... not zeolite what is that stuff really called?)
>
> Anyway all this is to say...If present ammonia should be dealt with
> and tested before and after use.

I had no idea it would break the bonds of Chloramine. I hope everyone reads
this post.

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Check out the IHMP forums, ihmp.net/phpbb
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[Crashj]

On or about Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
> wrote something like:

>Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
>anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
>number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.

Not to panic. Check with your card company. Several have system which
generates a one-time-use-only card number. Paypal is very secure since
no one ever really sees your data.
--
Crashj

[RichToyBox]

The use of Sodium Thiosulfate does break the bond on chloromine and ties up
the chlorine part so it works to remove chlorine. I use it all the time as
a dechlor. The amount of ammonia in the chloromined water is nearly
negligible in quantity once in the pond and if the filter is working
properly, it will be removed along with any other ammonia generated by the
fish post haste. Now if the quantity of water change is large, 50- 90% I
would use Amquel, which I also stock. I use Amquel when the fish spawn,
since I get a very high ammonia spike that lasts but a few days before the
filter takes care of it, but I don't want any damage in those few days. I
bought my Sodium Thiosulfate from AES also, but a 50 pound bucket. Maybe I
will need to buy another in 20 years or so. Use 500 grams per gallon of
water and it will treat about 20,000 gallons of pond water.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ajames54" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> 5 pounds? in what form? pure that would probably dechlor a large lake!
>>
>> Only works on Chlorine... will break the bonds of chloramine leaving
>> free ammonia.
>>
>> With Chlorine it forms NaCl (salt), salt will cause ammonia to be
>> released from many of the binders used to hold it (like the Ammo-chips
>> sold for aquariums ... not zeolite what is that stuff really called?)
>>
>> Anyway all this is to say...If present ammonia should be dealt with
>> and tested before and after use.
>
> I had no idea it would break the bonds of Chloramine. I hope everyone
> reads
> this post.
>
> --
> BV
> Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com
> Check out the IHMP forums, ihmp.net/phpbb
> I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.
>
>
>

[Bill Stock]

"~ Windsong ~" > wrote in message
...
> Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
> anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
> number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
>
> Thanks! :-)
> --
> Carol.... the frugal ponder...
> Pricelessware: FREE SOFTWARE
> http://www.pricelessware.org
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

Anyone have a source for this stuff in Canada? I think Aquatic EcoSystems
has a $100 minimum order for us, not to mention the shipping/brokerage
hassle.

[~ Windsong ~]

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
...
Use 500 grams per gallon of
> water and it will treat about 20,000 gallons of pond water.
=================
How do I measure grams without a gram scale? Using a tsp. would not be
accurate because of the density/weight of different substances.
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[~ Windsong ~]

"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
> On or about Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
> > wrote something like:
>
> >Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
> >anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
> >number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
>
> Not to panic. Check with your card company. Several have system which
> generates a one-time-use-only card number. Paypal is very secure since
> no one ever really sees your data.
> --
> Crashj
=======================
Thanks but it's not worth the hassle. I'd rather call and speak to a human
when I order something.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
Pricelessware:
http://www.pricelessware.org
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[RichToyBox]

I use a small digital postal scale, but before that used a weight watchers
scale. Just went and measured in a measuring cup and 500 grams of sodium
thiosulfate is almost exactly 2 cups.
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"~ Windsong ~" > wrote in message
...
>
> "RichToyBox" > wrote in message
> ...
> Use 500 grams per gallon of
>> water and it will treat about 20,000 gallons of pond water.
> =================
> How do I measure grams without a gram scale? Using a tsp. would not be
> accurate because of the density/weight of different substances.
> --
> Carol.... the frugal ponder...
> Pricelessware:
> http://www.pricelessware.org
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

[Crashj]

On or about Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:27:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" >
wrote something like:

>
>"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
>> On or about Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
>> > wrote something like:
>>
>> >Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs. Does
>> >anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge card
>> >number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
>>
>> Not to panic. Check with your card company. Several have system which
>> generates a one-time-use-only card number. Paypal is very secure since
>> no one ever really sees your data.
>> --
>> Crashj
>=======================
>Thanks but it's not worth the hassle. I'd rather call and speak to a human
>when I order something.

Well, in one sense I agree since I handle all the sales off my
website, but on the other hand, how do you normally get to a real
person??
;-)
"Press "1" to speak in English . . . "
--
Crashj

[~ Windsong ~]

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
...
> I use a small digital postal scale, but before that used a weight watchers
> scale. Just went and measured in a measuring cup and 500 grams of sodium
> thiosulfate is almost exactly 2 cups.
============================
Thanks Rich. :-) I think we do have an old postal scale in the back
office.

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[~ Windsong ~]

"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
> On or about Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:27:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" >
> wrote something like:
>
> >
> >"Crashj" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On or about Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:42:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
> >> > wrote something like:
> >>
> >> >Someone recommended a website for this product for $12 per 5 lbs.
Does
> >> >anyone have the PHONE NUMBER of the place? I will not put my charge
card
> >> >number anywhere on the net and did not see a phone number at the site.
> >>
> >> Not to panic. Check with your card company. Several have system which
> >> generates a one-time-use-only card number. Paypal is very secure since
> >> no one ever really sees your data.
> >> --
> >> Crashj
> >=======================
> >Thanks but it's not worth the hassle. I'd rather call and speak to a
human
> >when I order something.
>
> Well, in one sense I agree since I handle all the sales off my
> website, but on the other hand, how do you normally get to a real
> person??

## Just like I did now. I ask on the NG or a Board. Someone always has a
phone number. If a company can't be bothered to TALK to me in person then
they don't need/want my business. Some places don't want to have to deal
with people or problems they may have with their products - they can go to
hell. :-)

> ;-)
> "Press "1" to speak in English . . . "
> --
> Crashj

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actually it is preferred to fill a large tub with a known amount of water and then
use 1/8 teaspoons to work out what is actually needed for neutralization. I then
double that amount. sodium thio is safe at 10X the needed dose. Ingrid

"RichToyBox" > wrote:

>I use a small digital postal scale, but before that used a weight watchers
>scale. Just went and measured in a measuring cup and 500 grams of sodium
>thiosulfate is almost exactly 2 cups.



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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.