puzzled about my goldfish swimbladder thing...

[marcos]

Hi

Having starved one of my orandas for 3 days then feeding it boiled
de-skinned shredded peas for another 3 days, the moment i put it back
in the main tank, after several minutes, it starts floating up to the
top again ( even thou i even haven't fed it anything yet!!). i've
tried all that advice from people in the forum but never works. the
oranda's still floating up to the surface with a bloated tummy after
feeding time.
JOHN

[Starfish]

The only thing i can think of is water quality.
What are your ammonia, nitrates, nitites, ph, temp?
If all parameters are ok, try raising the temp a little
"marcos" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi
>
> Having starved one of my orandas for 3 days then feeding it boiled
> de-skinned shredded peas for another 3 days, the moment i put it back
> in the main tank, after several minutes, it starts floating up to the
> top again ( even thou i even haven't fed it anything yet!!). i've
> tried all that advice from people in the forum but never works. the
> oranda's still floating up to the surface with a bloated tummy after
> feeding time.
> JOHN

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http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/symptom/symptom.htm#floating%20problems
try reading thru this. floating is a very difficult to impossible problem to treat
once they are floating all the time. there is the chinese treatment method.
the food has to be tiny amounts.
the food needs to be high quality, in fact feed chopped cooked human grade shrimp at
first to see if they can handle it. again, tiny amounts. also that fake crab stuff
might be fine in tiny amounts.
bring heat up to 78oF (with plenty of aeration).
try a little epsom salts in the water.
Ingrid

(marcos) wrote:

>Hi
>
>Having starved one of my orandas for 3 days then feeding it boiled
>de-skinned shredded peas for another 3 days, the moment i put it back
>in the main tank, after several minutes, it starts floating up to the
>top again ( even thou i even haven't fed it anything yet!!). i've
>tried all that advice from people in the forum but never works. the
>oranda's still floating up to the surface with a bloated tummy after
>feeding time.
>JOHN



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yes, dont forget to check water parameters. Ingrid

"Starfish" > wrote:

>The only thing i can think of is water quality.
>What are your ammonia, nitrates, nitites, ph, temp?
>If all parameters are ok, try raising the temp a little


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Tom L. La Bron]

JOHN,

After you have tried everything that everyone has suggested and the fish is
still floating it is probably hereitary. I had a Ryukin that gave my family
six years of enjoyment and companionship, but one morning I came in to feed
my fish and it was floating upside down. The following Spring I put it
outside in the and check on it in the Fall when I usually bring fish in and
it was swimming like nothing ever had happened. I brought the fish inside
(my water parameters are excellent virtually all the time) and by next
Spring it was floating again. I put it outside in early Spring and it
passed away that summer.

Floating in round bodied fish is always a problem and some are just going be
affected as though someone has turned on a switch. If nothing you do
corrects the problem or it does for a brief time, it is probably a good time
to think about disposing of the fish and moving on, and you certainly don't
want to breed it, because you will just be passing on the problems.

Sorry to tell you this, but some problems just can't be fixed.

Tom L.L.
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"marcos" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi
>
> Having starved one of my orandas for 3 days then feeding it boiled
> de-skinned shredded peas for another 3 days, the moment i put it back
> in the main tank, after several minutes, it starts floating up to the
> top again ( even thou i even haven't fed it anything yet!!). i've
> tried all that advice from people in the forum but never works. the
> oranda's still floating up to the surface with a bloated tummy after
> feeding time.
> JOHN

[Osiris]

(marcos) wrote in
om:

> Hi
>
> Having starved one of my orandas for 3 days then feeding it boiled
> de-skinned shredded peas for another 3 days, the moment i put it back
> in the main tank, after several minutes, it starts floating up to the
> top again ( even thou i even haven't fed it anything yet!!). i've
> tried all that advice from people in the forum but never works. the
> oranda's still floating up to the surface with a bloated tummy after
> feeding time.
> JOHN

There's web site I ran across that tells (and shows with real pictures)
how to perform surgery on your fish to fix the problem. Damn scary to
me, but he says it doesn't hurt the fish much and he's had success with
it. I guess if the fish is going to die due to the flip-over problem you
might as well try to save it with this (radical) technique, unless
someone else has a better solution that is proven to work. Lucky for me
I only have some comet gold fish which don't have flip-over problems.
The web site is: http://www.koivet.com/flipover.html

The site says Koi Vet, but he doesn't just talk about Koi fish. He talks
about goldfish too.

Good luck
Osiris