Re: String Algae - What To Do?

[San Diego Joe]

"Otto Pylot" wrote:

> Howdy all,
> We had an outdoor pond installed last July. About 1100 gallons with a 5
> foot waterfall meandering down a 6 foot stream. Biological filters
> (including lava rocks) with an autofill valve. We have 5 Shibukin gold
> fish (with countless mosquito fish as well!) so far and plan on putting
> in some Koi this summer. We treat it every two weeks with Pond-Zyme
> Plus and it has stayed crystal clear until the rains came. We've had a
> lot of rain here in Northern California the last few weeks and now
> there is a lot of string algae growing. Nothing is on the rocks where
> waterfall is only in the pond itself. Water is flowing smoothly and the
> fileters are looking good. Is this normal for the weather condition and
> will the string algae go away or do we need to do anything now? This is
> our first winter season so we're not sure what to do and we'd hate to
> put in any chemicals that would harm the fish or make the pond
> chemically dependent. Thanks.

Where we live, we have some of the same problem in winter. From what I can
figure out, the water is too cold for the plants that compete with the algae
- lilies, hyacinth, etc, but still warm enough for the algae. A little
colder than now and the algae goes away too. Don't bother with the
chemicals. You'll also find the same problem in spring as the water heats
up. As you get more established, it is way less of a problem.



San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[William Oertell]

Lots of string algae here in the Sacramento Valley, too. More than last
year. I was talking to the gal at Floratropicana and she said her string
algae is worse than she's seen it before. Don't know why. I've heard it's
not bad for the bond. It just looks awful. There's not really a lot you
can do about it but keep it as clear as you can. Some kinds of fish can get
tangled up in the stuff, so you want to keep the stuff to a minimum.

"Otto Pylot" > wrote in message
...
> Howdy all,
> We had an outdoor pond installed last July. About 1100 gallons with a 5
> foot waterfall meandering down a 6 foot stream. Biological filters
> (including lava rocks) with an autofill valve. We have 5 Shibukin gold
> fish (with countless mosquito fish as well!) so far and plan on putting
> in some Koi this summer. We treat it every two weeks with Pond-Zyme
> Plus and it has stayed crystal clear until the rains came. We've had a
> lot of rain here in Northern California the last few weeks and now
> there is a lot of string algae growing. Nothing is on the rocks where
> waterfall is only in the pond itself. Water is flowing smoothly and the
> fileters are looking good. Is this normal for the weather condition and
> will the string algae go away or do we need to do anything now? This is
> our first winter season so we're not sure what to do and we'd hate to
> put in any chemicals that would harm the fish or make the pond
> chemically dependent. Thanks.
>
> --
> Deja Moo: I've seen this bull**** before.
>
> My address has been anti-spammed.
> Please reply to: replacing invalid with sonic.

[Tom L. La Bron]

William,

I had a bad bout with string algae last spring (Probably because I started
up my pond so early) and AlgeFix and EcoFix used according to the
instructions and for the properly lengths of time worked great at getting
rid of it.

In the later part of the summer I got a little back in the ponds, but didn't
treat it because it usually shows up in the late summer when it gets the
hottest and then goes away when it cools off.

Tom L.L.
==============================
"William Oertell" > wrote in message
...
> Lots of string algae here in the Sacramento Valley, too. More than last
> year. I was talking to the gal at Floratropicana and she said her string
> algae is worse than she's seen it before. Don't know why. I've heard
> it's
> not bad for the bond. It just looks awful. There's not really a lot you
> can do about it but keep it as clear as you can. Some kinds of fish can
> get
> tangled up in the stuff, so you want to keep the stuff to a minimum.
>
> "Otto Pylot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Howdy all,
>> We had an outdoor pond installed last July. About 1100 gallons with a 5
>> foot waterfall meandering down a 6 foot stream. Biological filters
>> (including lava rocks) with an autofill valve. We have 5 Shibukin gold
>> fish (with countless mosquito fish as well!) so far and plan on putting
>> in some Koi this summer. We treat it every two weeks with Pond-Zyme
>> Plus and it has stayed crystal clear until the rains came. We've had a
>> lot of rain here in Northern California the last few weeks and now
>> there is a lot of string algae growing. Nothing is on the rocks where
>> waterfall is only in the pond itself. Water is flowing smoothly and the
>> fileters are looking good. Is this normal for the weather condition and
>> will the string algae go away or do we need to do anything now? This is
>> our first winter season so we're not sure what to do and we'd hate to
>> put in any chemicals that would harm the fish or make the pond
>> chemically dependent. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Deja Moo: I've seen this bull**** before.
>>
>> My address has been anti-spammed.
>> Please reply to: replacing invalid with sonic.
>
>

[Crashj]

On or about 3 Jan 2005 16:57:03 -0600, Otto Pylot
> wrote something like:

>Howdy all,
>We had an outdoor pond installed last July.
<>
>there is a lot of string algae growing.
<>
Barley straw apparently doses the pond with hydrogen peroxide (well,
it's a theory) that inhibits the growth of string algae. I also derive
hours or minutes of amusement twirling it onto a rough dowel and
pulling it up.

"Everything you need to know you learned in kindergarten or grad
school. In between is a vast wasteland of ignorance."
--
Crashj

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>On 3 Jan 2005 16:57:03 -0600, Otto Pylot > wrote:

>Howdy all,
>We had an outdoor pond installed last July. About 1100 gallons with a 5
>foot waterfall meandering down a 6 foot stream. Biological filters
>(including lava rocks) with an autofill valve. We have 5 Shibukin gold
>fish (with countless mosquito fish as well!) so far and plan on putting
>in some Koi this summer. We treat it every two weeks with Pond-Zyme
>Plus and it has stayed crystal clear until the rains came. We've had a
>lot of rain here in Northern California the last few weeks and now
>there is a lot of string algae growing. Nothing is on the rocks where
>waterfall is only in the pond itself. Water is flowing smoothly and the
>fileters are looking good. Is this normal for the weather condition and
>will the string algae go away or do we need to do anything now? This is
>our first winter season so we're not sure what to do and we'd hate to
>put in any chemicals that would harm the fish or make the pond
>chemically dependent. Thanks.

Otto,

Do you have any test kits? With all that rain you should be watching your
pH and KH, and run ammonia & nitrite. Any test you have, check your water
parameters. Every time you have a problem check your water parameters.

String Algae can pop up for no reason, but most often IME, a sudden change
in the water chemistry brings it on. It will go away and is probably a good
thing right now, as I suspect something is out-of-balance due to reduction
in buffering and/or ground run-off. ~ jan


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[Stephen Henning]

Otto Pylot > wrote:

> We had an outdoor pond installed last July. About 1100 gallons with a 5
> foot waterfall meandering down a 6 foot stream. Biological filters
> (including lava rocks) with an autofill valve. We have 5 Shibukin gold
> fish (with countless mosquito fish as well!) so far and plan on putting
> in some Koi this summer. We treat it every two weeks with Pond-Zyme
> Plus and it has stayed crystal clear until the rains came. We've had a
> lot of rain here in Northern California the last few weeks and now
> there is a lot of string algae growing. Nothing is on the rocks where
> waterfall is only in the pond itself. Water is flowing smoothly and the
> fileters are looking good. Is this normal for the weather condition and
> will the string algae go away or do we need to do anything now? This is
> our first winter season so we're not sure what to do and we'd hate to
> put in any chemicals that would harm the fish or make the pond
> chemically dependent. Thanks.
>

The biological filters are key to removing the nutrients that are
feeding the algae. The rain is also a lack of sun light and lower
temperatures. With less light and lower temperatures, you need more bio
mass to remove the nutrients from the water. You can start by reducing
the amount you are feeding the fish until the water clears up. You can
use more plants. You have an early warning that your pond was on the
edge and needs better management.

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[ex WGS Hamm]

"Crashj" > wrote in message
...
> On or about 3 Jan 2005 16:57:03 -0600, Otto Pylot
> > wrote something like:
>
> >Howdy all,
> >We had an outdoor pond installed last July.
> <>
> >there is a lot of string algae growing.
> <>
> Barley straw apparently doses the pond with hydrogen peroxide (well,
> it's a theory) that inhibits the growth of string algae. I also derive
> hours or minutes of amusement twirling it onto a rough dowel and
> pulling it up.
>
> "Everything you need to know you learned in kindergarten or grad
> school. In between is a vast wasteland of ignorance."
Here in UK barley straw is used a lot for this. I use it myself. I has to
be barley straw though. I place a good lump of it into a nylon net which
onions are sold in, and weight it down with half a brick or something. The
results are not as instant as chemicals but I believe in the long run far
better and of course cheaper too. I have a 2000 gallon pond in full sunlight
in summer (when we get any) and mine does get a lot of this stuff, but by
adding my net of fresh barley straw in late spring, it is so clean and clear
I can see right down to the bottom which is some 5 foot at the deepest part
in the centre. I had to use a ladder to climb out when I was digging it :0)

[Benign Vanilla]

"Otto Pylot" > wrote in message
...
> Howdy all,
> This is our first winter with a new pond. It is about 1100 gallons
> outside in the backyard with about a 4 1/2 foot waterfall that
> meanders down a 6 foot stream. 4 Shibukin goldfish and more mosquito
> fish than I can count. The water moves fairly well 24/7. The only
> thing we treat the pond with is Pond-Zyme Plus about every two weeks.
> We are in the SF Bay Area. There is a lot of string algae that is
> growing and even though we attempt to take it out, it's a losing
> battle. Will the algae go away once the weather warms up and stays warm
> or is there something we should treat the pond with that is safe for
> our current fish and the koi that we plan on adding this spring?
> I'd hate to make my pond chemically dependent if I can help it so what
> should I do or is this a natural cycle that will clear itself over
> time. The fish and plants all look healthy. Thanks.

My two cents...

I built my pond partially under some pine trees, thinking the needles would
not be a problem. Silly ponder. Anyway, the string algae is a blessing. Mine
grows in a few select places, and it binds the needles up nicely. Every few
weeks I pull a clump out, and a ton of needles as well.


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