Aggressive fish

[Sarah Navarro]

HI all,

I have a big green terror, a big oscar, a big pl*co, and a convict cichlid.
They were in a 40 gallon tank and were all getting along just fine for more
than 3 years. The day before yesterday, I moved them into a 100 gallon
tank. Ever since the move, the green terror will not let the little convict
come out of his hiding place. He chases him around the tank relentlessly.
The poor little guy has not even been able to eat. Is there anything I can
do? I don't want him to have to live in the little hiding rock forever and
he needs to eat. Thanks. Sarah

[Ozdude]

"Sarah Navarro" > wrote in message
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> HI all,
>
> I have a big green terror, a big oscar, a big pl*co, and a convict
> cichlid. They were in a 40 gallon tank and were all getting along just
> fine for more than 3 years. The day before yesterday, I moved them into a
> 100 gallon tank. Ever since the move, the green terror will not let the
> little convict come out of his hiding place. He chases him around the
> tank relentlessly. The poor little guy has not even been able to eat. Is
> there anything I can do? I don't want him to have to live in the little
> hiding rock forever and he needs to eat. Thanks. Sarah

New Territory establishment - sounds like to me.

Can you take the big aggressive one out while the little one establishes
himself? (A few days). Then reintroduce big bother at night and see if that
equalises the situation.

Oz


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[Sarah Navarro]

He is about 11 inches long. Would it be okay to put him in a 15 gallon tank
for a couple of days? That is the only empty tank I have ready to go right
now. Thanks..

Sarah

>
> New Territory establishment - sounds like to me.
>
> Can you take the big aggressive one out while the little one establishes
> himself? (A few days). Then reintroduce big bother at night and see if
> that equalises the situation.
>
> Oz
>
>
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>
>

[Ozdude]

"Sarah Navarro" > wrote in message
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> He is about 11 inches long. Would it be okay to put him in a 15 gallon
> tank for a couple of days? That is the only empty tank I have ready to go
> right now. Thanks..

I'm pretty new at this "new age" of Aquaria ;)

I think for two days or so, it should be okay. Just keep an eye on him for
stress etc..;)

Oz

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[Gene Moy]

Recommend you temporarilly move the Green Terror back to the 40 for a couple
of weeks. This will allow the other fish including the convict to establish
territorial boundaries. Then the green terror will be an outsider in an
established hierarchy. More rock and hiding places wouldn't hurt either.

Gene
"Sarah Navarro" > wrote in message
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> HI all,
>
> I have a big green terror, a big oscar, a big pl*co, and a convict
> cichlid. They were in a 40 gallon tank and were all getting along just
> fine for more than 3 years. The day before yesterday, I moved them into a
> 100 gallon tank. Ever since the move, the green terror will not let the
> little convict come out of his hiding place. He chases him around the
> tank relentlessly. The poor little guy has not even been able to eat. Is
> there anything I can do? I don't want him to have to live in the little
> hiding rock forever and he needs to eat. Thanks. Sarah
>

[Craig]

that wont solve anything, once the terror establishes a territroy it
will attack all new comers, but if the con gets one itll stand a
fighting chance



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[daoscar]

well you can buy a lil smaller tank andput the con in there for lil bit



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[Larry]

On 21 Jan 2005 11:56:22 GMT, Craig
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>that wont solve anything, once the terror establishes a territroy it
>will attack all new comers, but if the con gets one itll stand a
>fighting chance


I'm not very knowledge about cichlids so I looked up pics and stats of
the convict and green terror. It says the terror could grow to 32"
and the convict 5" . Are you saying that a small cichlids like the
convict can hold their own in a tank with the big boys?

If so, then mighty fascinating stuff for sure. ;-}

All the best,

Larry

[Craig]

i know this sounds bitchy as hell but, dont look too far into what
Doaoscar says, hes off the cichlid fish boards and hes pretty young. so
his knowledge is a little limited.

sorry man, but your giving people the wrong advice which you just seem
to keep pushing on them even though it WILL result in the death of fish.

in short, move the terror into a smaller tank, let the con and oscar
establish territories and then see what happens on re introduction i a
few weeks. keep us all posted (ive suffered a similar problem in the
past and would love to know how to solve it if it ever happened again.)

Craig



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[daoscar]

well all fish are different so maybe if give the con alot of hiding
places the green would end up having to get usto it



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[Sarah Navarro]

Thats what I did day before yesterday. I put the terror into a 55 gallon.
He looks lonely. I will put him back in 2 or 3 weeks and see what happens.
I hope it works out.

Sarah
"Craig" -DONTEMAIL> wrote in message
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>i know this sounds bitchy as hell but, dont look too far into what
> Doaoscar says, hes off the cichlid fish boards and hes pretty young. so
> his knowledge is a little limited.
>
> sorry man, but your giving people the wrong advice which you just seem
> to keep pushing on them even though it WILL result in the death of fish.
>
> in short, move the terror into a smaller tank, let the con and oscar
> establish territories and then see what happens on re introduction i a
> few weeks. keep us all posted (ive suffered a similar problem in the
> past and would love to know how to solve it if it ever happened again.)
>
> Craig
>
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[daoscar]

well yes you are asshole



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[Craig]

Nah, they only grow to around 12", but the con will be fine when
everything is set up. itll get the rough side of the deal, but itll be
alright in the end i imagine.



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[Fuzzy]

Resizing an aquarium with mature fish often cause's problems. Some
soloutions work, and others don't. When the fish are first bought, and
put in the tank, (this case a 40g) they are all pretty much the same
physical size. As such they aquire there territory, and get along ok.
Now at a later point in time, they are moved and introduced in another
tank, now, as they begin to re establish tank territory, they are no
long of semi-equal size.IMO the best method to avoid this from
happening, is to properly research the fish you are going to purchase,
and put them in a proper sized tank at the onset. Unfortunatly, the LFS
where you do your original purchase, are, for the most part only
concerned with making a sale, not really educating the new owners to as
what they must have. Hopefuly enough ppl will begin to research there
fish, and these types of situations will not need to occur.



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[DannyBoy]

Here's something else you can try. Divide your tank into areas by
placing a towering item (I used two rocks) mid tank. I had a problem
with three male Maylandia Greshakei. One Greshakei thought the whole
tank should be his territory. The next time I cleaned the tank I
removed all structures and rearanged, placing two rocks, one about 1/3
and the other about 2/3 along the bottom of the tank. All three now
have taken an area to call their territor. No fight unless one wonders
beyond their "Territor Rock". the best part is that all three now wear
their Dominate Coloring.

Dannyboy



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[Sarah Navarro]

I will try that. I have never heard of the fish that you have. I am going
to google it right now to see what they look like. They sound like little
gangsters protecting their turf and showing their colors. lol

Sarah
"DannyBoy" -DONTEMAIL> wrote in message
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> Here's something else you can try. Divide your tank into areas by
> placing a towering item (I used two rocks) mid tank. I had a problem
> with three male Maylandia Greshakei. One Greshakei thought the whole
> tank should be his territory. The next time I cleaned the tank I
> removed all structures and rearanged, placing two rocks, one about 1/3
> and the other about 2/3 along the bottom of the tank. All three now
> have taken an area to call their territor. No fight unless one wonders
> beyond their "Territor Rock". the best part is that all three now wear
> their Dominate Coloring.
>
> Dannyboy
>
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[Gordon James]

Hi Sarah

Any success with the aggressive fish?


I am using a bed of Java Moss in my aggressive tank.

My most nasty Jack Dempsy (7 - 8 inches) is the boss of the upper part of
the tank where he is free to see everything for the full length (50 gallon
long).

He does not dare go into the weeds where the black convict pair gang up on
him.

I also place terra cotta pots in the tank as spawning caves.

I have loads of light (2 - 4 foot flourescent tubes) and I have to harvest
Java moss every few weeks.

The one drawback is that i have not seen my 10 inch plecostamus in several
weeks.

He hides in the weeds and eats and I only see him when I remove LOTS of
javamoss from the tank.



"Sarah Navarro" > wrote in message
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> I will try that. I have never heard of the fish that you have. I am
going
> to google it right now to see what they look like. They sound like little
> gangsters protecting their turf and showing their colors. lol
>
> Sarah
> "DannyBoy" -DONTEMAIL> wrote in message
> ...
> > Here's something else you can try. Divide your tank into areas by
> > placing a towering item (I used two rocks) mid tank. I had a problem
> > with three male Maylandia Greshakei. One Greshakei thought the whole
> > tank should be his territory. The next time I cleaned the tank I
> > removed all structures and rearanged, placing two rocks, one about 1/3
> > and the other about 2/3 along the bottom of the tank. All three now
> > have taken an area to call their territor. No fight unless one wonders
> > beyond their "Territor Rock". the best part is that all three now wear
> > their Dominate Coloring.
> >
> > Dannyboy
> >
> >
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[Sarah Navarro]

No, I tried putting him back and he is still mean. He continues harrassing
the oscar, and the pleco and the convict. I have him right now in a 55
gallon tank by himself. I want to make that tank into a sal****er tank. I
am going to have to find him a new home. If anyone knows of someone that
wants a big beautiful, mean green terror in the Fresno/Hanford area of
California let me know. I hate to get rid of him, but if I could find him a
new home I would. I am also going to ask the LFS if they will take him, but
I don't know if they will.

Sarah

"Gordon James" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Sarah
>
> Any success with the aggressive fish?
>
>
> I am using a bed of Java Moss in my aggressive tank.
>
> My most nasty Jack Dempsy (7 - 8 inches) is the boss of the upper part of
> the tank where he is free to see everything for the full length (50 gallon
> long).
>
> He does not dare go into the weeds where the black convict pair gang up on
> him.
>
> I also place terra cotta pots in the tank as spawning caves.
>
> I have loads of light (2 - 4 foot flourescent tubes) and I have to
> harvest
> Java moss every few weeks.
>
> The one drawback is that i have not seen my 10 inch plecostamus in several
> weeks.
>
> He hides in the weeds and eats and I only see him when I remove LOTS of
> javamoss from the tank.
>
>