veiltail sunk

[john huddleston]

hi all...

I have recently been given a 2" calico veiltail who can't maintain boyancy,
it just sinks to the bottom of the tank. I`ve had problems with goldies
floating before, but never sinking.

He seem okay in himself, he has a favourite spot where he rests up until i
feed him, then he just swims up eats what he can and sinks again, he can
only feed midwater or off the surface, not the bottom as he can`t swim
backwards as fast as he sinks, iyswim...

I thought it might have been to do with his previous owners care as he did
have an overstocked tank. I`ve put him in a fully cycled 30 gallon tank,
theres plenty of room and filtration and the water quality is fine, he`s
been there over a month but he doesn`t seem to be getting any better.

Any ideas? he`s a lovely looking fish nd it seems a shame to only see him
either sitting on the bottom or fighting like mad to maintain his
altitude...

[Starfish]

How about feeding you fish some cooked peas popped out of their skins and
shredded for a while. And soak food before feeding
"john huddleston" > wrote in message
k...
> hi all...
>
> I have recently been given a 2" calico veiltail who can't maintain
> boyancy,
> it just sinks to the bottom of the tank. I`ve had problems with goldies
> floating before, but never sinking.
>
> He seem okay in himself, he has a favourite spot where he rests up until i
> feed him, then he just swims up eats what he can and sinks again, he can
> only feed midwater or off the surface, not the bottom as he can`t swim
> backwards as fast as he sinks, iyswim...
>
> I thought it might have been to do with his previous owners care as he did
> have an overstocked tank. I`ve put him in a fully cycled 30 gallon tank,
> theres plenty of room and filtration and the water quality is fine, he`s
> been there over a month but he doesn`t seem to be getting any better.
>
> Any ideas? he`s a lovely looking fish nd it seems a shame to only see him
> either sitting on the bottom or fighting like mad to maintain his
> altitude...
>
>

[Tom L. La Bron]

John,

Round bodied Goldfish tend to have swim bladder problems in general and it
is probably genetic. IMHO you have taken on a fish that will never get any
better. You can try peas, and bloodworms, earthworms, but chances are your
fish will never get any better and if it does briefly it will return to its
present state. Once the fish starts have swim bladder problems, either
because of genetics or because of disease there is not much chance of them
getting back to their old self.

Sorry to bring you the bad news. I too had a beautiful bronze Veiltail that
did nothing but set on the bottom. She was a good breeder and ate well, but
never swam around much. Since that time I never breed fish with SB
problems. It is a a waste of time and effort, especially Veiltails because
they are one of the more inbred fish and have the tendency to passing this
characteristic along to subsequent generations.

Tom L.L.
"john huddleston" > wrote in message
k...
> hi all...
>
> I have recently been given a 2" calico veiltail who can't maintain
> boyancy,
> it just sinks to the bottom of the tank. I`ve had problems with goldies
> floating before, but never sinking.
>
> He seem okay in himself, he has a favourite spot where he rests up until i
> feed him, then he just swims up eats what he can and sinks again, he can
> only feed midwater or off the surface, not the bottom as he can`t swim
> backwards as fast as he sinks, iyswim...
>
> I thought it might have been to do with his previous owners care as he did
> have an overstocked tank. I`ve put him in a fully cycled 30 gallon tank,
> theres plenty of room and filtration and the water quality is fine, he`s
> been there over a month but he doesn`t seem to be getting any better.
>
> Any ideas? he`s a lovely looking fish nd it seems a shame to only see him
> either sitting on the bottom or fighting like mad to maintain his
> altitude...
>
>

[john huddleston]

> Round bodied Goldfish tend to have swim bladder problems in general and it
> is probably genetic. IMHO you have taken on a fish that will never get
any
> better. You can try peas, and bloodworms, earthworms, but chances are
your
> fish will never get any better and if it does briefly it will return to
its
> present state. Once the fish starts have swim bladder problems, either
> because of genetics or because of disease there is not much chance of them
> getting back to their old self.

i`ve tried peas and worms, he has a hard time feeding off the bottom and
more or less has to sink head first onto the food to get a chance to grab
it.

> Sorry to bring you the bad news. I too had a beautiful bronze Veiltail
that
> did nothing but set on the bottom. She was a good breeder and ate well,
but
> never swam around much. Since that time I never breed fish with SB
> problems. It is a a waste of time and effort, especially Veiltails
because
> they are one of the more inbred fish and have the tendency to passing this
> characteristic along to subsequent generations.

I suspected it was genetic, but hoped there would be something i could to to
get him swimming, never mind, other than sinking he seems happy enough.

>
> Tom L.L.
> "john huddleston" > wrote in message
> k...
> > hi all...
> >
> > I have recently been given a 2" calico veiltail who can't maintain
> > boyancy,
> > it just sinks to the bottom of the tank. I`ve had problems with goldies
> > floating before, but never sinking.
> >
> > He seem okay in himself, he has a favourite spot where he rests up until
i
> > feed him, then he just swims up eats what he can and sinks again, he can
> > only feed midwater or off the surface, not the bottom as he can`t swim
> > backwards as fast as he sinks, iyswim...
> >
> > I thought it might have been to do with his previous owners care as he
did
> > have an overstocked tank. I`ve put him in a fully cycled 30 gallon tank,
> > theres plenty of room and filtration and the water quality is fine, he`s
> > been there over a month but he doesn`t seem to be getting any better.
> >
> > Any ideas? he`s a lovely looking fish nd it seems a shame to only see
him
> > either sitting on the bottom or fighting like mad to maintain his
> > altitude...
> >
> >
>
>