Murky Water

[Tispe]

Hi all, I just found this newsgroup.....my ten gallon tank has three
goldfish in it. No matter how many different chemicals I've tried, the
water gets murky and green after the second or third day of a water change.
I've tested the ph and so far that seems fine. I put a 20-40 gallon filter
in it, and the water is still lousy looking.

The fish are healthy and thriving, but for my own enjoyment, I would like
for them to be in clean, clear water.

Any input greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Tispe

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Tispe wrote:
>
> Hi all, I just found this newsgroup.....my ten gallon tank has three
> goldfish in it. No matter how many different chemicals I've tried, the
> water gets murky and green after the second or third day of a water change.
> I've tested the ph and so far that seems fine. I put a 20-40 gallon filter
> in it, and the water is still lousy looking.
>
> The fish are healthy and thriving, but for my own enjoyment, I would like
> for them to be in clean, clear water.
>
> Any input greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tispe

Tispe,

You are overstocked. Have you tested for Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrates? Goldfish
typically do better with 10 gallons per fish - this is because they are messy
and grow huge.

[Starfish]

Want to know why you have murkey water???? You have too many fish in
it....the tank you have is only ok for 1 goldfish
"Tispe" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Hi all, I just found this newsgroup.....my ten gallon tank has three
> goldfish in it. No matter how many different chemicals I've tried, the
> water gets murky and green after the second or third day of a water
> change.
> I've tested the ph and so far that seems fine. I put a 20-40 gallon
> filter
> in it, and the water is still lousy looking.
>
> The fish are healthy and thriving, but for my own enjoyment, I would like
> for them to be in clean, clear water.
>
> Any input greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tispe
>
>

[Tispe]

Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
fish!!!

Tispe
"Starfish" > wrote in message
...
> Want to know why you have murkey water???? You have too many fish in
> it....the tank you have is only ok for 1 goldfish
> "Tispe" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Hi all, I just found this newsgroup.....my ten gallon tank has three
> > goldfish in it. No matter how many different chemicals I've tried, the
> > water gets murky and green after the second or third day of a water
> > change.
> > I've tested the ph and so far that seems fine. I put a 20-40 gallon
> > filter
> > in it, and the water is still lousy looking.
> >
> > The fish are healthy and thriving, but for my own enjoyment, I would
like
> > for them to be in clean, clear water.
> >
> > Any input greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tispe
> >
> >
>
>

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Tispe wrote:
>
> Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
> fish!!!
>

I know that feeling. One thing I will suggest is to get a bigger tank (try ebay
for a second hand one).

Do you have a filter, and can you get those water readings done?
How much water do you change and how often?

[Katra]

Ok, so that gives you an excuse to go and buy a bigger tank! ;-)

Check the want ads in the newspaper. There are often used ones available.
Some pet stores will carry used tanks also at a discount.

Good luck!



In article t>,
"Tispe" > wrote:

> Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
> fish!!!
>
> Tispe
> "Starfish" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Want to know why you have murkey water???? You have too many fish in
> > it....the tank you have is only ok for 1 goldfish
> > "Tispe" > wrote in message
> > nk.net...
> > > Hi all, I just found this newsgroup.....my ten gallon tank has three
> > > goldfish in it. No matter how many different chemicals I've tried, the
> > > water gets murky and green after the second or third day of a water
> > > change.
> > > I've tested the ph and so far that seems fine. I put a 20-40 gallon
> > > filter
> > > in it, and the water is still lousy looking.
> > >
> > > The fish are healthy and thriving, but for my own enjoyment, I would
> like
> > > for them to be in clean, clear water.
> > >
> > > Any input greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tispe
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

[sophie]

In message >, Geezer From The Freezer
> writes
>
>
>Tispe wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
>> fish!!!
>>
>
>I know that feeling. One thing I will suggest is to get a bigger tank (try ebay
>for a second hand one).

I started off in a similar situation to Tispe and now have a four foot
tank. Still wondering what to put in the little one; I fancy a) corys
and b) kuhlis. hrrrrrmmmmm.
fishkeeping is disturbingly addictive.
>
>Do you have a filter, and can you get those water readings done?
>How much water do you change and how often?

--
sophie

[Katra]

In article >,
sophie > wrote:

> In message >, Geezer From The Freezer
> > writes
> >
> >
> >Tispe wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
> >> fish!!!
> >>
> >
> >I know that feeling. One thing I will suggest is to get a bigger tank (try
> >ebay
> >for a second hand one).
>
> I started off in a similar situation to Tispe and now have a four foot
> tank. Still wondering what to put in the little one; I fancy a) corys
> and b) kuhlis. hrrrrrmmmmm.
> fishkeeping is disturbingly addictive.

LOTS of greenery and a pair of bettas? :-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

[Gunther]

In article >, sophie-
says...
> I started off in a similar situation to Tispe and now have a four foot
> tank. Still wondering what to put in the little one; I fancy a) corys
> and b) kuhlis. hrrrrrmmmmm.
> fishkeeping is disturbingly addictive.

My advice: "borrow" one of your goldfish temporarily, set up the
old small tank, let it cycle, then leave it running and empty.
Sooner or later, you'll be wanting a hospital or isolation tank,
and an already-cycled one is a nice thing to have.

[Tispe]

Yes, I just installed a 20-40 gallon filter, thinking that might be the
solution....The water readings seems to be normal. If I want the water to
be really clean for awhile, I must remove the fish, empty the tank, wash the
gravel, yada yada. But I understand this is not good for the fish. But, if
I empty, say half the water, the remaining water is still murky and I don't
get the clear water I want after I add new water.

Sophie summed it up when she said fishkeeping is curiously addictive.....I
get so much enjoyment watching them swim around and this is the first time
in my life that my goldfish have lasted almost two years, so I'm really "on
a roll" now.

Funny thing...my son has a 20 gallon tank with 7 goldfish, each one about 2
inches long, and his water is never murky......and the number of fish is way
too much for a 20 gallon, and he has a smaller filter than mine.

This is a very interesting newsgroup.......and I appreciate all the
responses.

Tispe

"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tispe wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
> > fish!!!
> >
>
> I know that feeling. One thing I will suggest is to get a bigger tank (try
ebay
> for a second hand one).
>
> Do you have a filter, and can you get those water readings done?
> How much water do you change and how often?

[bettasngoldfish]

> LOTS of greenery and a pair of bettas? :-)
> --
> K.
>

I hope that comment was supposed to be a joke. Who would keep a pair
of male or female bettas in a small tank? Its not a good combo if you
want your fish to live.

[Katra]

In article om>,
"bettasngoldfish" > wrote:

> > LOTS of greenery and a pair of bettas? :-)
> > --
> > K.
> >
>
> I hope that comment was supposed to be a joke. Who would keep a pair
> of male or female bettas in a small tank? Its not a good combo if you
> want your fish to live.
>

Actually, 10 gallons works.

This was many moons ago, but my mom had a pair (a male and a female) in
a 10 gallon tank.

She had a LOT of live plants in there, (mostly Elodia) and the female
stayed in the plants until she got gravid.

The male blew a lovely bubble nest and we watched them go thru their
mating ritual. He wrapped himself around her to get her to release the
eggs while he released milt, then he picked up the eggs in his mouth and
blew them into the bubble nest.

I don't think I'd try to keep a pair in anything _smaller_ than a 10
gallon tho', no!

I've personally not tried it.

I just have a pretty red male in my bathroom in a 1.5 gallon tank with
an undergravel filter and a couple of mystery snails.

--
K.

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[sophie]

In message >, Gunther
> writes
>In article >, sophie-
says...
>> I started off in a similar situation to Tispe and now have a four foot
>> tank. Still wondering what to put in the little one; I fancy a) corys
>> and b) kuhlis. hrrrrrmmmmm.
>> fishkeeping is disturbingly addictive.
>
>My advice: "borrow" one of your goldfish temporarily, set up the
>old small tank, let it cycle, then leave it running and empty.
>Sooner or later, you'll be wanting a hospital or isolation tank,
>and an already-cycled one is a nice thing to have.

that's how it is at the moment.
I want to pout something in it.
I am happy to set up a small plastic tank as a quarantine tank,
though...
>

--
sophie

[Angrie.Woman]

"Geezer From The Freezer" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tispe wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your input......my dilemma is that I'm so attached to these
> > fish!!!
> >
>
> I know that feeling. One thing I will suggest is to get a bigger tank (try
ebay
> for a second hand one).
>
I'm new here, but wanted to suggest the OP might try a local Freecycle group
too. Aquariums are found on those lists pretty regularly.

A