Goldfish eye half detatched

[Starfish]

Hi everyone!
This arvo i came home from work and found my fantail hiding with one of his
eyes detached partially...(just the top half.) the optical nerve is intact
and i put some liquid betadine on the part where the eye was detached and
gently put the eye back in the socket....problem is, it come out a little
bit in the water...

I have the fish in a hospital tank with 1 tbs of pure salt per gallon...she
is not hiding anymore and is swimming happily.

can the eye be saved?

Thankyou!
Is there any way i can keep the eye secure in its socket till it heals??

[Geezer From The Freezer]

Starfish wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
> This arvo i came home from work and found my fantail hiding with one of his
> eyes detached partially...(just the top half.) the optical nerve is intact
> and i put some liquid betadine on the part where the eye was detached and
> gently put the eye back in the socket....problem is, it come out a little
> bit in the water...
>
> I have the fish in a hospital tank with 1 tbs of pure salt per gallon...she
> is not hiding anymore and is swimming happily.
>
> can the eye be saved?
>
> Thankyou!
> Is there any way i can keep the eye secure in its socket till it heals??

Good question....you might want to try the forums on
http://www.goldfishparadise.com

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
> Hi everyone!
.....
> Is there any way i can keep the eye secure in its socket till it heals??

You have my sympathy and support: I really wish I could help.
Please keep us posted here on any progess, OK? and good luck.
G

[Starfish]

Thankyou guys...
I tried to make a "bandage" for her.....but in the end i just couldnt do
it....the eye is swolen still, but i am going to use betadine on it every
other day and at the same time try to "convince" the eye to go back in....

Will that eventually work?
"Gunther" > wrote in message
.net...
> In article >,
> says...
>> Hi everyone!
> ....
>> Is there any way i can keep the eye secure in its socket till it heals??
>
> You have my sympathy and support: I really wish I could help.
> Please keep us posted here on any progess, OK? and good luck.
> G
>

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> Thankyou guys...
> I tried to make a "bandage" for her.....but in the end i just couldnt do
> it....the eye is swolen still, but i am going to use betadine on it every
> other day and at the same time try to "convince" the eye to go back in....
>
> Will that eventually work?

You may want to consult a vet...

I'm wondering if "vetbond" might not be handy in this case!

Might be a little rough on the fish to try it, but beneficial in the
long run???

It's a flesh "glue" that some vets use in place of stitches. My vet
helped me declaw some baby emus once using that substance, and it was
very, very nice and worked quite well to close the flesh and contain the
bleeding.

http://www.wpiinc.com/WPI_Web/Lab/VetBond.html

Opinions please???

There are numerous other references.
Go to http://www.google.com and type in "vetbond" in the search.

Good luck!!!

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[Starfish]

Hi Katra
I've just done a little research and vetbond has been used on fish like
trout. Im thinking about getting vetbond but id like to hear others opinions
too! :-)

i was also tempted to use "band aid" brand "liquid bandages......hmmmm....i
dont know
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> Thankyou guys...
>> I tried to make a "bandage" for her.....but in the end i just couldnt do
>> it....the eye is swolen still, but i am going to use betadine on it every
>> other day and at the same time try to "convince" the eye to go back
>> in....
>>
>> Will that eventually work?
>
> You may want to consult a vet...
>
> I'm wondering if "vetbond" might not be handy in this case!
>
> Might be a little rough on the fish to try it, but beneficial in the
> long run???
>
> It's a flesh "glue" that some vets use in place of stitches. My vet
> helped me declaw some baby emus once using that substance, and it was
> very, very nice and worked quite well to close the flesh and contain the
> bleeding.
>
> http://www.wpiinc.com/WPI_Web/Lab/VetBond.html
>
> Opinions please???
>
> There are numerous other references.
> Go to http://www.google.com and type in "vetbond" in the search.
>
> Good luck!!!
>
> --
> K.
>
> Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...
>
> As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles
> tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure
> to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada
>
>>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

[Gunther]

In article >,
says...
> Hi Katra
> I've just done a little research and vetbond has been used on fish like
> trout. Im thinking about getting vetbond but id like to hear others opinions
> too! :-)
>
> i was also tempted to use "band aid" brand "liquid bandages......hmmmm....i
> dont know


Yikes! That "liquid bandage" stuff stings like the dickens on me,
I'd not use it on a fish.

I think you're better off just keeping the fish isolated and quiet,
and keep the water as clean as you can, adding melafix now and then.
And hope for the best. Remember, if the eye is lost, the fish can
eventually adjust to that.
Good luck.

[Starfish]

Thanks...

the fish seems very happy...the eyes gone a strange colour, but you get that
after an injury like that....betadine every second day helping alot!
"Gunther" > wrote in message
.net...
> In article >,
> says...
>> Hi Katra
>> I've just done a little research and vetbond has been used on fish like
>> trout. Im thinking about getting vetbond but id like to hear others
>> opinions
>> too! :-)
>>
>> i was also tempted to use "band aid" brand "liquid
>> bandages......hmmmm....i
>> dont know
>
>
> Yikes! That "liquid bandage" stuff stings like the dickens on me,
> I'd not use it on a fish.
>
> I think you're better off just keeping the fish isolated and quiet,
> and keep the water as clean as you can, adding melafix now and then.
> And hope for the best. Remember, if the eye is lost, the fish can
> eventually adjust to that.
> Good luck.

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> Thanks...
>
> the fish seems very happy...the eyes gone a strange colour, but you get that
> after an injury like that....betadine every second day helping alot!

Is it "healing" back into place?
--
K.

[Starfish]

unfortunately no....they eye is still turned upward. But the fish is really
happy and eating...so i wont wrry about it too much...as i said, the eye has
gone sort of cloudy now but i guess thats necause of all the trauma
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> the fish seems very happy...the eyes gone a strange colour, but you get
>> that
>> after an injury like that....betadine every second day helping alot!
>
> Is it "healing" back into place?
> --
> K.

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> unfortunately no....they eye is still turned upward. But the fish is really
> happy and eating...so i wont wrry about it too much...as i said, the eye has
> gone sort of cloudy now but i guess thats necause of all the trauma

Oh well, it sounds like he is going to be ok.

I've read about this kind of thing a few times here!
Is it really that common for goldie's to lose an eye, and if so, why???

Was this a moor or other "bug eyed" goldfish?

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[Starfish]

no....it was a fantail!! My black moor is missing an eye....but that was a
"siphoning water and getting too close to the siphon" accident.
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> unfortunately no....they eye is still turned upward. But the fish is
>> really
>> happy and eating...so i wont wrry about it too much...as i said, the eye
>> has
>> gone sort of cloudy now but i guess thats necause of all the trauma
>
> Oh well, it sounds like he is going to be ok.
>
> I've read about this kind of thing a few times here!
> Is it really that common for goldie's to lose an eye, and if so, why???
>
> Was this a moor or other "bug eyed" goldfish?
>
> --
> K.
>
> Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...
>
> As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles
> tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure
> to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada
>
>>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Starfish" > wrote:
> >
> >> unfortunately no....they eye is still turned upward. But the fish is
> >> really
> >> happy and eating...so i wont wrry about it too much...as i said, the eye
> >> has
> >> gone sort of cloudy now but i guess thats necause of all the trauma
> >
> > Oh well, it sounds like he is going to be ok.
> >
> > I've read about this kind of thing a few times here!
> > Is it really that common for goldie's to lose an eye, and if so, why???
> >
> > Was this a moor or other "bug eyed" goldfish?
> >
>
> no....it was a fantail!! My black moor is missing an eye....but that was a
> "siphoning water and getting too close to the siphon" accident.

Ouch... Bummer! :-(

I was a coward when I had goldfish!
I used to remove them to a bucket when I was siphoning the tank. They
were too friendly and curious.

The clown loaches however, I could never catch the little stinkers in a
net! I'd "siphon" them into the net and it never harmed them, but the
inside diameter of the siphon I used was considerably larger than a
clawn loach. <G>

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[Starfish]

hehe! Nice!

All of my other gfs knew not to go near....i turned my head for a split
second to talk to mum and i felt something "hit" the pipe......then i saw
the eye in the bucket and started to cry....but charlie honestly didnt seem
to mind and he just kept on swimming and stuff....he is the happiest fish no
matter where he is.....his accident happend 2 years ago!!!!
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> "Katra" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "Starfish" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> unfortunately no....they eye is still turned upward. But the fish is
>> >> really
>> >> happy and eating...so i wont wrry about it too much...as i said, the
>> >> eye
>> >> has
>> >> gone sort of cloudy now but i guess thats necause of all the trauma
>> >
>> > Oh well, it sounds like he is going to be ok.
>> >
>> > I've read about this kind of thing a few times here!
>> > Is it really that common for goldie's to lose an eye, and if so, why???
>> >
>> > Was this a moor or other "bug eyed" goldfish?
>> >
>>
>> no....it was a fantail!! My black moor is missing an eye....but that was
>> a
>> "siphoning water and getting too close to the siphon" accident.
>
> Ouch... Bummer! :-(
>
> I was a coward when I had goldfish!
> I used to remove them to a bucket when I was siphoning the tank. They
> were too friendly and curious.
>
> The clown loaches however, I could never catch the little stinkers in a
> net! I'd "siphon" them into the net and it never harmed them, but the
> inside diameter of the siphon I used was considerably larger than a
> clawn loach. <G>
>
> --
> K.
>
> Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...
>
> As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles
> tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure
> to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada
>
>>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> hehe! Nice!
>
> All of my other gfs knew not to go near....i turned my head for a split
> second to talk to mum and i felt something "hit" the pipe......then i saw
> the eye in the bucket and started to cry....but charlie honestly didnt seem
> to mind and he just kept on swimming and stuff....he is the happiest fish no
> matter where he is.....his accident happend 2 years ago!!!!

Darn. I'd have cried too! :-(

But, fish are amazingly adaptable, and it's not like he's not in a
protected environment!

I adopted a little old blind poodle that somebody abandoned in my
neighborhood. She lives on the back porch (insulated and heated/air
conditioned) when she is not in my room with me, and she is fine. She
adopted one of the kitty houses on the floor as her dog house, and
sleeps in there when she is not wandering around.

It's odd how blindness does not seem to affect animals the way it does
humans!

--
K.

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[Starfish]

I know....My fully blind little lionhead carries on like he can see.....the
freaky thing is....he come up to the glass when im near the tank and "looks"
at me....he probably senses that im there!
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> hehe! Nice!
>>
>> All of my other gfs knew not to go near....i turned my head for a split
>> second to talk to mum and i felt something "hit" the pipe......then i saw
>> the eye in the bucket and started to cry....but charlie honestly didnt
>> seem
>> to mind and he just kept on swimming and stuff....he is the happiest fish
>> no
>> matter where he is.....his accident happend 2 years ago!!!!
>
> Darn. I'd have cried too! :-(
>
> But, fish are amazingly adaptable, and it's not like he's not in a
> protected environment!
>
> I adopted a little old blind poodle that somebody abandoned in my
> neighborhood. She lives on the back porch (insulated and heated/air
> conditioned) when she is not in my room with me, and she is fine. She
> adopted one of the kitty houses on the floor as her dog house, and
> sleeps in there when she is not wandering around.
>
> It's odd how blindness does not seem to affect animals the way it does
> humans!
>
> --
> K.
>
> Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...
>
> As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles
> tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure
> to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada
>
>>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

[Katra]

In article >,
"Starfish" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >
> > It's odd how blindness does not seem to affect animals the way it does
> > humans!
> > K.
>
> I know....My fully blind little lionhead carries on like he can see.....the
> freaky thing is....he come up to the glass when im near the tank and "looks"
> at me....he probably senses that im there!

Do you talk to him?
He might be able to sense the sound vibrations in the glass?

--
K.

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[Starfish]

i call his name (his names sooty) and he swims from one end of the tank to
the other..thats 6 foot!
"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Starfish" > wrote:
>
>> "Katra" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> >
>> > It's odd how blindness does not seem to affect animals the way it does
>> > humans!
>> > K.
>>
>> I know....My fully blind little lionhead carries on like he can
>> see.....the
>> freaky thing is....he come up to the glass when im near the tank and
>> "looks"
>> at me....he probably senses that im there!
>
> Do you talk to him?
> He might be able to sense the sound vibrations in the glass?
>
> --
> K.
>
> Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...
>
> As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles
> tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure
> to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada
>
>>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra