weird plant

[debs asw]

I had a salt water tank about 15 years ago, so this is my second time
around. I'm really having a hard time with the fish shops contradicting
everything I thought I knew. Today my husband picked up 2 smaller
plastic plants to put in the tank, but the things clearly have a wire in
them. I thought he screwed up and that these were plants designed for a
reptile tank, but the tag on them states they are for fish tanks. I
thought metal was a big no-no for any tank. Anyone know anything about
this? deb

[Chris Gentry]

Is the metal completely encapsulated in the plastic? If so, I can't see why
this would hurt anything. Otherwise I would think it wouldn't be such a
good thing. -Chris

"debs asw" > wrote in message
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> I had a salt water tank about 15 years ago, so this is my second time
> around. I'm really having a hard time with the fish shops contradicting
> everything I thought I knew. Today my husband picked up 2 smaller
> plastic plants to put in the tank, but the things clearly have a wire in
> them. I thought he screwed up and that these were plants designed for a
> reptile tank, but the tag on them states they are for fish tanks. I
> thought metal was a big no-no for any tank. Anyone know anything about
> this? deb
>
>
>
>

[George Patterson]

debs asw wrote:
>
> I thought he screwed up and that these were plants designed for a
> reptile tank, but the tag on them states they are for fish tanks.

Does the tag say they are safe for salt water? There are lots of plastic plants
made for freshwater aquariums, but I've never seen any for marine tanks. Many of
the plants for freshwater use have lead weights or straps.

> I thought metal was a big no-no for any tank.

Almost all metals are unsafe for marine tanks. I think titanium is used for
marine grounding rods, and the "noble" metals, such as gold and platinum, should
be safe. Anything that oxidizes is a problem.

George Patterson
He who tries to carry a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
no other way.

[BiG Orange]

Sounds like another cheesy salt water tank in the works.

B.O.

[Colleen]

"BiG Orange" > wrote in message
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> Sounds like another cheesy salt water tank in the works.
>
> B.O.

Don't be so judgmental. Deb can do what she wants, so long as the fish are
safe. It is her tank.
C

[debs asw]

It is not cheesy. My hubby bought the plants and I'm not using them
anyway. I've never liked them in salt water tanks. All I have is coral
in there......does that meet with your approval? deb

[Billy]

"debs asw" > wrote in message
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| It is not cheesy. My hubby bought the plants and I'm not using
them
| anyway. I've never liked them in salt water tanks. All I have is
coral
| in there......does that meet with your approval? deb
|
|
|
BO just gets grumpy sometimes. Ignore him when he's grumpy, but he
does know some stuff. FWIW, I agree with the other posters, if there
is any exposed metal, it's no good. Metal encased in plastic should
be fine.

billy

[BiG Orange]

"debs asw" > wrote in message
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> It is not cheesy. My hubby bought the plants and I'm not using them
> anyway. I've never liked them in salt water tanks. All I have is coral
> in there......does that meet with your approval? deb
>

So why are you wasting everyone's time asking if you can put cheesy plastic
freshwater plants in a marine tank if you aren't going to put them in?
Trying to setting a battle of whit at the homestead?

So what types of corals do you have? The skeletons kind or live ones?


BiG Orange

[debs asw]

So why are you wasting everyone's time asking if you can put cheesy
plastic freshwater plants in a marine tank if you aren't going to put
them in?

My hubby picked them up. I guess he likes that look. I myself don't. I
was willing to give it a shot but with the wire in them I decided to
play it safe and just forget it.

I didn't go for a live coral/rock tank. I'm just not that experienced
with it and don't want to get in over my head right from the start.
Hopefully I'll work my way up to it eventually. deb

[BiG Orange]

> I didn't go for a live coral/rock tank. I'm just not that experienced
> with it and don't want to get in over my head right from the start.
> Hopefully I'll work my way up to it eventually. deb
>

Dead Skeletons will cause more problems than live coral. Live rock is a
necessity in a sal****er tank.

[Billy]

"BiG Orange" > wrote in message
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|> I didn't go for a live coral/rock tank. I'm just not that
experienced
| > with it and don't want to get in over my head right from the
start.
| > Hopefully I'll work my way up to it eventually. deb
| >
|
| Dead Skeletons will cause more problems than live coral.

Ah, incorrect. Some of the most popular substrates consist largely of
crushed coral. There is no hazard that I can think of associated with
having coral 'skeletons'. A large acro 'skeleton' was one of the
first decorations I put in my first marine tank. It's still in there.
Looks completely different now, of course.

Live rock is a
| necessity in a sal****er tank.

False. Live rock is a wonderful aesthetic addition to a tank, and can
be a great help to maintaining stable water quality due to it's
detitrification capabilities. I recommend it. It is not, however, a
necessity.

b

[George Patterson]

BiG Orange wrote:
>
> Live rock is a necessity in a sal****er tank.

I've been doing fine without it for over 30 years now.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

[BiG Orange]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
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>> Live rock is a necessity in a sal****er tank.
>
> I've been doing fine without it for over 30 years now.
>
> George Patterson

Do you use tap water or RO/DI water?

[Billy]

"BiG Orange" > wrote in message
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| "George Patterson" > wrote in message
| ...
| >> Live rock is a necessity in a sal****er tank.
| >
| > I've been doing fine without it for over 30 years now.
| >
|
| Do you use tap water or RO/DI water?
|

Why would it make a difference in the LR issue?

[George Patterson]

BiG Orange wrote:
>
> Do you use tap water or RO/DI water?

In my current location, I'm using tap water.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

[BiG Orange]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
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>> Do you use tap water or RO/DI water?
>
> In my current location, I'm using tap water.
>
> George Patterson

Can't teach and old dog new tricks! Still uses tap water (water being the
most important ingredient) and doesn't realize the importance of live rock
in a small tank. Billions of beneficial nitrosomas and nitrobacter are in
live rock.


B.O.

[George Patterson]

BiG Orange wrote:
>
> Can't teach and old dog new tricks! Still uses tap water (water being the
> most important ingredient) and doesn't realize the importance of live rock
> in a small tank. Billions of beneficial nitrosomas and nitrobacter are in
> live rock.

Well, this old dog has been keeping fish alive for over 30 years without playing
silly buggers with RO filters and without live rock. And this old dog doesn't
make stupid statements like "live rock is a necessity."

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

[Billy]

"BiG Orange" > wrote in message
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|
| Can't teach and old dog new tricks! Still uses tap water (water
being the
| most important ingredient) and doesn't realize the importance of
live rock
| in a small tank. Billions of beneficial nitrosomas and nitrobacter
are in
| live rock.

BO, there are very few "you musts" and you must never's" in this
hobby. What spells disaster for one hobbyist works swimmingly for
another. What works wonders for one hobbyist results in tragedy for
another, and every combination in between. I used tap for over a
year, with no negative impact other than undesired algae. I use RO
now since I'm keeping corals and bivalves. I have 2 salt tanks, one
one which contains ZERO live rock, and the inhabitants are happy as
hell.

<rant>

I'd also like to add, your posts here in rec.aquaria*, combined
with the baseless tripe on your ridiculous website slandering F&S,
have thoroughly convinced me that you're about 12 years old, or at
least still live with your mom, who packs your lunches for you. May I
suggest you learn something before you continue to pop off with your
mindless blather when curious newbies ask honest questions. Never
miss a good opportunity to STFU.

</rant>

billy

[debs asw]

Thank you billy. I'm overly sensitive, and it's hard to get bashed
after every question or post. debs

[Billy]

"debs asw" > wrote in message
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| Thank you billy. I'm overly sensitive, and it's hard to get bashed
| after every question or post. debs

Please keep posting. Do not allow the actions of a few to darken your
opinion of this forum. The rec.aquaria.* groups
(rec.aquaria.marine.reefs is busiest) have a number of very
knowledgable people.