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dfreas
February 26th 05, 03:35 PM
Someone has probably thought of this before and done it but I figured I
would share my experience anyway, hopefully it'll give someone an idea
or two. This was a really easy project - from getting the idea, to
drawing the plans, to finding the parts, to actually building the thing
probably only took me three or four hours. And most of that time was
messing with prototypes that had obvious flaws.

The end result is a canister filter that lies horizontally on the back
floor of the tank (in my planted 20g long aquarium you can hardly even
see it), is totally silent even right next to it, and cleans my tank
amazingly well.

At my previous job I had access to a machine shop and was allowed to
use anything out of the scrap pile that I wanted. Their thinking was
that anything I built out of the scraps gave me more experience in
designing stuff and therefore made me more valuable to them. One of my
designs was this filter - but after making it I believe it could be
done without a full machine shop (though it may not be as pretty) the
only essential tool is a drill.

The piece I started with was a piece of pvc stock that someone had used
the lathe to tap out. The result was a six inch long cannister about
four inches outer diameter and 3.5" inner diameter, open on one end and
closed on the other. To make something similar without a lathe just
take a piece of pvc pipe and put an end cap on one end.

I then used the drill press to put a 5/8" hole in the closed end and
used a die set to thread this hole. Then I threaded a plastic tubing
connector into this hole so I would be able to easily take aquarium
tubing on and off of it. (If you're having trouble visualizing this it
looks something like one of these:
http://www.ozoneservices.com/products/OLZ/tubing/images/q-02b.jpg
only mine are dark gray and obviously one end was threaded - you can
pick them up at lowes/home depot really cheap.)

The last step was to make a lid for the other end, drill half a dozen
1/8" holes in it and attach it to the open end of the cannister. Viola,
a canister filter is born...almost.

I bought some cheap filter material and stuffed it in the filter until
it was full (I only wanted mechanical filtration, I was putting it in a
heavily planted tank so chemical filtration is unnecessary.). I also
considered filling it with gravel or foam - I think any media would
work well.

Then I took about three inches of aquarium tubing, plugged one end onto
the tubing tap I had made on one end of the cannister and the other end
of the tubing I plugged into the submersible pump from one of those
miniature waterfalls that you can get at the mall. You know the ones -
a bowl full of rocks or something and water gets pumped up the center
and flows over the rocks. Someone had given me one for a gift a while
back and I never used it and it seemed like a decent pump. The end
result looks something like this (forgive the ascii art):

[ ]______|-------------------------]
[pump] tube | cannister full ] ~~~~
[ ]------| of filter media ] ~~~~ --> water flow -->
|_________________________] ~~~~

The cannister is about 6" long and everything is flat black. It works
*really* well. Since putting it in my water has been crystal clear - I
could read the newspaper through the long side of the tank if I wanted.

I have no idea what the flow rate is...anyone know what a typical flow
rate for one of these submersible fountain pumps is? The total cost for
me was about $4 but that was because I got a lot of the parts free. I
would imagine it can be done fairly cheap though. The most expensive
part being the pump.

Anyway, very cool and very easy to do if you're bored and have some of
the parts already laying around the house. Feel free to email me
questions if you decide to build one for yourself.

-Daniel

Angrie.Woman
February 26th 05, 06:10 PM
"dfreas" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Someone has probably thought of this before and done it but I figured I
> would share my experience anyway, hopefully it'll give someone an idea
> or two. This was a really easy project - from getting the idea, to
> drawing the plans, to finding the parts, to actually building the thing
> probably only took me three or four hours. And most of that time was
> messing with prototypes that had obvious flaws.
>
> The end result is a canister filter that lies horizontally on the back
> floor of the tank (in my planted 20g long aquarium you can hardly even
> see it), is totally silent even right next to it, and cleans my tank
> amazingly well.
>
>
> The piece I started with was a piece of pvc stock that someone had used
> the lathe to tap out. The result was a six inch long cannister about
> four inches outer diameter and 3.5" inner diameter, open on one end and
> closed on the other. To make something similar without a lathe just
> take a piece of pvc pipe and put an end cap on one end.
>
> I then used the drill press to put a 5/8" hole in the closed end and
> used a die set to thread this hole.

How would you thread this id you don't have a die set?



>Then I threaded a plastic tubing
> connector into this hole so I would be able to easily take aquarium
> tubing on and off of it. (If you're having trouble visualizing this it
> looks something like one of these:
> http://www.ozoneservices.com/products/OLZ/tubing/images/q-02b.jpg
> only mine are dark gray and obviously one end was threaded - you can
> pick them up at lowes/home depot really cheap.)

Are they in the plumbing section?


>
> The last step was to make a lid for the other end, drill half a dozen
> 1/8" holes in it and attach it to the open end of the cannister. Viola,
> a canister filter is born...almost.
>
> I bought some cheap filter material and stuffed it in the filter until
> it was full (I only wanted mechanical filtration, I was putting it in a
> heavily planted tank so chemical filtration is unnecessary.). I also
> considered filling it with gravel or foam - I think any media would
> work well.
>
> Then I took about three inches of aquarium tubing, plugged one end onto
> the tubing tap I had made on one end of the cannister and the other end
> of the tubing I plugged into the submersible pump from one of those
> miniature waterfalls that you can get at the mall. You know the ones -
> a bowl full of rocks or something and water gets pumped up the center
> and flows over the rocks. Someone had given me one for a gift a while
> back and I never used it and it seemed like a decent pump. The end
> result looks something like this (forgive the ascii art):
>
> [ ]______|-------------------------]
> [pump] tube | cannister full ] ~~~~
> [ ]------| of filter media ] ~~~~ --> water flow -->
> |_________________________] ~~~~
>
> The cannister is about 6" long and everything is flat black. It works
> *really* well. Since putting it in my water has been crystal clear - I
> could read the newspaper through the long side of the tank if I wanted.
>
> I have no idea what the flow rate is...anyone know what a typical flow
> rate for one of these submersible fountain pumps is? The total cost for
> me was about $4 but that was because I got a lot of the parts free. I
> would imagine it can be done fairly cheap though. The most expensive
> part being the pump.
>
> Anyway, very cool and very easy to do if you're bored

That's me. :)

and have some of
> the parts already laying around the house. Feel free to email me
> questions if you decide to build one for yourself.
>
> -Daniel
>

dfreas
February 26th 05, 06:50 PM
Angrie.Woman wrote:
> How would you thread this id you don't have a die set?

Hmmm. Well I can think of two options. You could try getting a metal
bolt with the same threads as the tap you intend to thread and then
cranking the bolt into the hole. The metal will probably dig right in
to the pvc and create a threaded hole - but it might not come out
perfect so I don't know how good that solution is. The other
possibility is to just get a tap that isn't threaded and fits well into
the hole you make - seal it with aquarium sealant which you can get
tubes of at your LFS.


> Are they in the plumbing section?

Should be. I actually had some sitting around so I didn't have to buy
them but I'm pretty sure they would be in the plumbing section. There
should be an aisle of little tube fittings in a variety of less than
helpfully organized boxes.

> That's me. :)

Good luck!

-Daniel

Rob
February 28th 05, 02:55 PM
> back and I never used it and it seemed like a decent pump. The end
> result looks something like this (forgive the ascii art):
>
> [ ]______|-------------------------]
> [pump] tube | cannister full ] ~~~~
> [ ]------| of filter media ] ~~~~ --> water flow -->
> |_________________________] ~~~~
>

My only concern about this design is that your pump is moving the water
before it is filtered - essentially "pushing" the water through the media.
I think that in time this could cause premature wear on the impeller versus
a design where the pump "pulls" the water through the media, which is what
most canister filters seem to do. I'd consider moving the pump to the
outflow end (if I were to start from scratch).

Just my $0.02. Aside from that, you've created a great, cheap solution and
had some fun doing it!

dfreas
February 28th 05, 09:19 PM
You may be right (though in my case the water is so clean already that
I'm really only using this filter to polish it) but the reason I went
with this design was because I already had all of the parts aside from
the filter media. Since fountain pumps are designed to pull water from
the surrounding area and push it up to the top of the fountain the pump
is made with many slits all around its base that it pulls the water
into and one tube that it pumps it out of. So pushing the water was my
only choice unless I wanted to turn this into a $24 project instead of
a $4 project by buying a new pump.

I think the neat thing about this design is that many people have
received one of those "relaxation fountains" from a friend or relative
as a gift at some point and almost no one ever actually uses them. I
used mine until all of the water evaporated and then I never refilled
it again and it sat collecting dust for a year. So this is a great mod
to turn an unused fountain into an effective filter.

-Daniel

Angrie.Woman
March 1st 05, 07:01 PM
"dfreas" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> You may be right (though in my case the water is so clean already that
> I'm really only using this filter to polish it) but the reason I went
> with this design was because I already had all of the parts aside from
> the filter media. Since fountain pumps are designed to pull water from
> the surrounding area and push it up to the top of the fountain the pump
> is made with many slits all around its base that it pulls the water
> into and one tube that it pumps it out of. So pushing the water was my
> only choice unless I wanted to turn this into a $24 project instead of
> a $4 project by buying a new pump.
>
> I think the neat thing about this design is that many people have
> received one of those "relaxation fountains" from a friend or relative
> as a gift at some point and almost no one ever actually uses them. I
> used mine until all of the water evaporated and then I never refilled
> it again and it sat collecting dust for a year. So this is a great mod
> to turn an unused fountain into an effective filter.

I don't have a spare, but they (the motors) are on close-out at a local
craft store. Like you, I'm looking to polish the water.

A