Eheim 2028 for my Discus?

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I have 10 Discus in a 75 gal tank.

I'm currently running 2 Filstar XP3 filters (I had 12 discus before...
two of which died several months ago, that's why I have 2 filters...
it's an overloaded tank.)

The XP3s are breaking down and are no longer filtering properly after 2
years. Water in the tank is constantly cloudy, my fine filter pad is
not getting dirty, so I know it's not pumping water properly through
the filter.

My discus are stressed, they're scared all the time now, getting
scratched up from scraping themselves on the log from swimming so
fast... I think it's due to the water quality...

So I am in the market for another canister filter.

I don't really like my XP3s, I'm thinking of replacing them w/ one
Eheim 2028.

Can someone help me... Is an Eheim 2028 all that cracked up to be? Is
it as reliable as people say it is? Will it be slightly easier to
maintain than an XP3?

Thanks in advance.

[Elaine T]

wrote:
> I have 10 Discus in a 75 gal tank.
>
> I'm currently running 2 Filstar XP3 filters (I had 12 discus before...
> two of which died several months ago, that's why I have 2 filters...
> it's an overloaded tank.)
>
> The XP3s are breaking down and are no longer filtering properly after 2
> years. Water in the tank is constantly cloudy, my fine filter pad is
> not getting dirty, so I know it's not pumping water properly through
> the filter.
>
> My discus are stressed, they're scared all the time now, getting
> scratched up from scraping themselves on the log from swimming so
> fast... I think it's due to the water quality...
>
> So I am in the market for another canister filter.
>
> I don't really like my XP3s, I'm thinking of replacing them w/ one
> Eheim 2028.
>
> Can someone help me... Is an Eheim 2028 all that cracked up to be? Is
> it as reliable as people say it is? Will it be slightly easier to
> maintain than an XP3?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
I'd go for the Eheim Professional 2227 Wet/Dry Canister Filter myself.
They're designed to go a long time without cleaning and work extremely
well to clean water. It's like having a trickle filter without the
sump. They are efficient enough biofilters that sal****er aquarists use
them.

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[Dave S]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I have 10 Discus in a 75 gal tank.
>
> I'm currently running 2 Filstar XP3 filters (I had 12 discus before...
> two of which died several months ago, that's why I have 2 filters...
> it's an overloaded tank.)
>
> The XP3s are breaking down and are no longer filtering properly after 2
> years. Water in the tank is constantly cloudy, my fine filter pad is
> not getting dirty, so I know it's not pumping water properly through
> the filter.
>
> My discus are stressed, they're scared all the time now, getting
> scratched up from scraping themselves on the log from swimming so
> fast... I think it's due to the water quality...
>
> So I am in the market for another canister filter.
>
> I don't really like my XP3s, I'm thinking of replacing them w/ one
> Eheim 2028.
>
> Can someone help me... Is an Eheim 2028 all that cracked up to be? Is
> it as reliable as people say it is? Will it be slightly easier to
> maintain than an XP3?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Would the 2227 be overkill? As I understand it, the 2227 is for aquariums up
to 350 litres. Would 2 x 2232 / 4's (one for bio and the other for
polishing) be
a good alternative?

HTH - Dave

[agent smith]

you can never go wrong with over-filtering

[Elaine T]

agent smith wrote:
> you can never go wrong with over-filtering
>
>
Until you plaster your fish against the sides of the tank, that is. ;-)
But I think the 2227 is actually fairly low GPH and you definately
can't have too much bio filter capacity.

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[Margolis]

I personally would still go with two filters. Then stagger the cleaning. 2
2028's would be good for a 75. That way one should always be in prime
condition.. Or get a trickle filter for bio filtering and a simple magnum
350 for mechanical filtration.

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[agent smith]

hehehe. my fry are going through that. i have an emp 400 in a 20gal. NICE
current, the fry are always swimming :D

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"Elaine T" > wrote in message
m...
> agent smith wrote:
>> you can never go wrong with over-filtering
> Until you plaster your fish against the sides of the tank, that is. ;-)
> But I think the 2227 is actually fairly low GPH and you definately can't
> have too much bio filter capacity.
>
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> ><__'> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><

[JG]

An Emperor 400 on a 20G?!?!?! I considered buying that filter for my 42G
but the outflow is WAY too great! Having it on a 20G is just utter
nonsense. Sorry, but it is. Do yourself a huge favour and downgrade or
save the 400 for a larger tank, your fish, if still alive, will thank you.
"agent smith" > wrote in message
...
> hehehe. my fry are going through that. i have an emp 400 in a 20gal. NICE
> current, the fry are always swimming :D
>
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> "Elaine T" > wrote in message
> m...
>> agent smith wrote:
>>> you can never go wrong with over-filtering
>> Until you plaster your fish against the sides of the tank, that is. ;-)
>> But I think the 2227 is actually fairly low GPH and you definately can't
>> have too much bio filter capacity.
>>
>> --
>> __ Elaine T __
>> ><__'> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
>
>

[agent smith]

why? thats the smallest filter i have, and the overflow isnt bad at all so
long as the tank is full. it creates a nice wavy effect on the bottom. so
long as the sand isnt bieng blown everywhere, im happy, and my fish dont
seem to mind, they play in the current all the time.


-agent smith


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[JG]

Never owned a Juwel but have owned an Ecco - nice choice.
"Simon Wilkinson" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:23:49 GMT, "agent smith"
> > wrote:
>
>>why? thats the smallest filter i have, and the overflow isnt bad at all so
>>long as the tank is full. it creates a nice wavy effect on the bottom. so
>>long as the sand isnt bieng blown everywhere, im happy, and my fish dont
>>seem to mind, they play in the current all the time.
>>
>>
>>-agent smith
>
>
> I've joined this thread because I've just bought an Eheim Ecco 2234
> comfort. I'm wanting to install it in my Juwel Vision 240. Can anyone
> advise me on hood modification so as to get the Eheim working well
> alongside the Juwel integral filter?
>
> Many Thanks
> --
> Simon