How deep should it be?

[David]

I am still in the conceptual design stage of the tropical water
garden/pond/aquarium, mentioned in a couple of earlier posts. I have
been fixated on the idea that the deepest pool should be around 5-6'
deep, but have recently started thinking -- is there any practical
reason for this depth? I have based this presumption upon what the
koi ponders like to do. But I'm not building a koi pond. This
project is for tropical fish.

So I am wondering what you real aquarists would do? If you were
building such a thing, and tropical fish were a primary focus, how
deep would you make the deepest pool? NetMax has suggested fish sizes
of 5-9" in this deepest pool, and I feel pretty good about that. But
does this auger for a depth of 5-6 feet? I really don't have a
feeling for what makes sense. But I am starting with a blank sheet of
paper, and can make it any way I want. How deep would you real
aquarists make your new tank if you had a free hand? (Remember that
although this will be part of a water garden, this deepest pool will
also have a side view.) What depth makes sense?

(I'm sure some of you think this whole project doesn't make sense, but
I'm trying to remain optimistic ... <g>)

Thank you very much, David

[Elaine T]

David wrote:
> I am still in the conceptual design stage of the tropical water
> garden/pond/aquarium, mentioned in a couple of earlier posts. I have
> been fixated on the idea that the deepest pool should be around 5-6'
> deep, but have recently started thinking -- is there any practical
> reason for this depth? I have based this presumption upon what the
> koi ponders like to do. But I'm not building a koi pond. This
> project is for tropical fish.
>
> So I am wondering what you real aquarists would do? If you were
> building such a thing, and tropical fish were a primary focus, how
> deep would you make the deepest pool? NetMax has suggested fish sizes
> of 5-9" in this deepest pool, and I feel pretty good about that. But
> does this auger for a depth of 5-6 feet? I really don't have a
> feeling for what makes sense. But I am starting with a blank sheet of
> paper, and can make it any way I want. How deep would you real
> aquarists make your new tank if you had a free hand? (Remember that
> although this will be part of a water garden, this deepest pool will
> also have a side view.) What depth makes sense?
>
> (I'm sure some of you think this whole project doesn't make sense, but
> I'm trying to remain optimistic ... <g>)
>
> Thank you very much, David
>
>
Well, first I'll offer a thought. If you're going to keep deep bodied
fish like discus or angels, IMO 3-4 feet deep would be good. I also
don't know how easy it will be to grow plants in 6 feet of water - it
will depend on the light intensity and how much of the pond is in sun or
shade.

I'll also counter with a question. You're going to have to be working
at the bottom of this pond setting planters, maintaining drains, and
possibly cleaning accumulated gunk off of the bottom yearly. How deep
water do you want to have to work in or how much are you willing to
drain for maintenance?

--
__ Elaine T __
><__'> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><

[Richard Sexton]

In article >,
David > wrote:
>I am still in the conceptual design stage of the tropical water
>garden/pond/aquarium, mentioned in a couple of earlier posts. I have
>been fixated on the idea that the deepest pool should be around 5-6'
>deep, but have recently started thinking -- is there any practical
>reason for this depth? I have based this presumption upon what the
>koi ponders like to do. But I'm not building a koi pond. This
>project is for tropical fish.
>
>So I am wondering what you real aquarists would do? If you were
>building such a thing, and tropical fish were a primary focus, how
>deep would you make the deepest pool? NetMax has suggested fish sizes
>of 5-9" in this deepest pool, and I feel pretty good about that. But
>does this auger for a depth of 5-6 feet? I really don't have a
>feeling for what makes sense. But I am starting with a blank sheet of
>paper, and can make it any way I want. How deep would you real
>aquarists make your new tank if you had a free hand? (Remember that
>although this will be part of a water garden, this deepest pool will
>also have a side view.) What depth makes sense?
>
>(I'm sure some of you think this whole project doesn't make sense, but
>I'm trying to remain optimistic ... <g>)
>
>Thank you very much, David
>
>

Indoors or out?


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[NetMax]

"Elaine T" > wrote in message
om...
> David wrote:
>> I am still in the conceptual design stage of the tropical water
>> garden/pond/aquarium, mentioned in a couple of earlier posts. I have
>> been fixated on the idea that the deepest pool should be around 5-6'
>> deep, but have recently started thinking -- is there any practical
>> reason for this depth? I have based this presumption upon what the
>> koi ponders like to do. But I'm not building a koi pond. This
>> project is for tropical fish.
>>
>> So I am wondering what you real aquarists would do? If you were
>> building such a thing, and tropical fish were a primary focus, how
>> deep would you make the deepest pool? NetMax has suggested fish sizes
>> of 5-9" in this deepest pool, and I feel pretty good about that. But
>> does this auger for a depth of 5-6 feet? I really don't have a
>> feeling for what makes sense. But I am starting with a blank sheet of
>> paper, and can make it any way I want. How deep would you real
>> aquarists make your new tank if you had a free hand? (Remember that
>> although this will be part of a water garden, this deepest pool will
>> also have a side view.) What depth makes sense?
>>
>> (I'm sure some of you think this whole project doesn't make sense, but
>> I'm trying to remain optimistic ... <g>)
>>
>> Thank you very much, David
>>
>>
> Well, first I'll offer a thought. If you're going to keep deep bodied
> fish like discus or angels, IMO 3-4 feet deep would be good. I also
> don't know how easy it will be to grow plants in 6 feet of water - it
> will depend on the light intensity and how much of the pond is in sun
> or shade.
>
> I'll also counter with a question. You're going to have to be working
> at the bottom of this pond setting planters, maintaining drains, and
> possibly cleaning accumulated gunk off of the bottom yearly. How deep
> water do you want to have to work in or how much are you willing to
> drain for maintenance?
>
> --
> __ Elaine T __
> ><__'> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><

Excellent points from Elaine T. I'd suggest 4' as a maximum, beyond
which maintenance, plant growth and required glass thickness become too
problematic.
--
www.NetMax.tk

[David]

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:58:40 GMT, (Richard Sexton)
wrote:

>In article >,
>David > wrote:
>>I am still in the conceptual design stage of the tropical water
>>garden/pond/aquarium, mentioned in a couple of earlier posts. I have
>>been fixated on the idea that the deepest pool should be around 5-6'
>>deep, but have recently started thinking -- is there any practical
>>reason for this depth? I have based this presumption upon what the
>>koi ponders like to do. But I'm not building a koi pond. This
>>project is for tropical fish.
>>
>>So I am wondering what you real aquarists would do? If you were
>>building such a thing, and tropical fish were a primary focus, how
>>deep would you make the deepest pool? NetMax has suggested fish sizes
>>of 5-9" in this deepest pool, and I feel pretty good about that. But
>>does this auger for a depth of 5-6 feet? I really don't have a
>>feeling for what makes sense. But I am starting with a blank sheet of
>>paper, and can make it any way I want. How deep would you real
>>aquarists make your new tank if you had a free hand? (Remember that
>>although this will be part of a water garden, this deepest pool will
>>also have a side view.) What depth makes sense?
>>
>>(I'm sure some of you think this whole project doesn't make sense, but
>>I'm trying to remain optimistic ... <g>)
>>
>>Thank you very much, David
>>
>>
>
>Indoors or out?

Outdoors, in a tropical climate -- so no freeze worries

[David]

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:55:16 GMT, Elaine T >
wrote:


>>
>>
>Well, first I'll offer a thought. If you're going to keep deep bodied
>fish like discus or angels, IMO 3-4 feet deep would be good.
Good! It's IMOs from folks like you that I'm looking for!

> I also
>don't know how easy it will be to grow plants in 6 feet of water - it
>will depend on the light intensity and how much of the pond is in sun or
>shade.
Yes, I agree. This is in fact what caused me to start to doubt my
original 5-6'. I sure would prefer looking sideways into a healthy
well-planted backdrop. (The 5-6' deep koi folks don't have this
concern -- because there aren't any plants left in a koi pond.)

>
>I'll also counter with a question. You're going to have to be working
>at the bottom of this pond setting planters, maintaining drains, and
>possibly cleaning accumulated gunk off of the bottom yearly. How deep
>water do you want to have to work in or how much are you willing to
>drain for maintenance?
Very good questions. I am hoping, (if I can solve the
"small-fish-eating" problem), to have Spin Drifter type bottom drains
installed as part of the design, which will pull off the mulm and
gunk before it becomes too solid. The koi ponders (there's that word
again) claim that these are very effective. Failing that though, and
for setting planters, I guess it will then be snorkel time. Hopefully
a life vest won't be required though<g>.